What will be the game plan???

[Billsfan1972]

Yep I repeat it over & over that the Bills need to ascert themselves on offense and always am concerned at how this coaching staff approaches games vs. top teams with top defenses in less then perfect weather.

 

So the forecast is fine & hope the Bills come out like they did vs.SF/Seattle.....

 

My biggest disappointments were their game plan vs. NE & KC, where they let the opponent and "elements" dictate their offense.

 

It should be the Steelers worried about containing the Bills offense and keeping them off the field, not vice-versa.

 

The Bills put up 27+ & they will win.   

 

Ram it down the Steelers throats!!!!!😆  

[Brennan Huff]

LOTS OF PAIN!!!!

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Score more points than the Steelers.

 

But seriously, I do believe that McDermott is gradually shaking the notion that we need to play low scoring possession games to stand a chance against top teams.  We can be the apex predator that we've feared.

[Big Turk]

14 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yep I repeat it over & over that the Bills need to ascert themselves on offense and always am concerned at how this coaching staff approaches games vs. top teams with top defenses in less then perfect weather.

 

So the forecast is fine & hope the Bills come out like they did vs.SF/Seattle.....

 

My biggest disappointments were their game plan vs. NE & KC, where they let the opponent and "elements" dictate their offense.

 

It should be the Steelers worried about containing the Bills offense and keeping them off the field, not vice-versa.

 

The Bills put up 27+ & they will win.   

 

Ram it down the Steelers throats!!!!!😆  

 

The weather will be pretty perfect other than cold. No rain or snow and winds under 10mph.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yep I repeat it over & over that the Bills need to ascert themselves on offense and always am concerned at how this coaching staff approaches games vs. top teams with top defenses in less then perfect weather.

 

So the forecast is fine & hope the Bills come out like they did vs.SF/Seattle.....

 

My biggest disappointments were their game plan vs. NE & KC, where they let the opponent and "elements" dictate their offense.

 

It should be the Steelers worried about containing the Bills offense and keeping them off the field, not vice-versa.

 

The Bills put up 27+ & they will win.   

 

Ram it down the Steelers throats!!!!!😆  

 

I don't understand how anyone would watch that NE game and think that anything on offense was "dictated".  Daboll made a strategic choice that NE's weakness was run D and their strength was pass D.  He said "we're gonna run it until you show you can stop us".

 

Against KC, the problem wasn't the plan, but the execution.  The plan was pretty clearly for the offense to sustain drives with a pass-based offense while the defense stifled the KC quick strike deep pass game.  Neither plan worked.

 

First two offensive drives 9 pass plays, 3 run plays (with 1 probably a scramble by Allen).  10 pass, 2 run or at most, 9 pass 2 run.  7 incompletions, 2 completions.  The pass game wasn't working too well.  We scored a TD on the 3rd drive where we led with the run, 9 runs to 4 pass (50% completion with a dpi).  And even there, 4 of the runs were probably called pass plays and Allen scrambles, so in terms of called plays probably still 7 or 8 pass to 5 or 4 runs.  There was some "dictation" there in that KC was playing physical, but mostly it was that Brown was playing hampered and Allen just missed on some throws.  It was the second of his "massive linebacker brace" games.

 

Then on D we gave up long runs or YAC and lost contain on Mahomes, NOT part of the plan.

 

[MJS]

Score more points than the other team.

[Fleezoid]

Bubble screens and short dump-offs. Steelers blitz alot. Gotta slow 'em down or make 'em pay for it. Moreover, it'll help protect Allen. 

[4_kidd_4]

Go that way, really fast.

 

If something gets in your way...turn.

[PrimeTime101]

57 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

LOTS OF PAIN!!!!

I think both teams going to try and ass on each all game.. best defense against best apposing offense wins

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

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What will be the game plan???

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

16 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

Go that way, really fast.

 

If something gets in your way...turn.

Sounds like my old electric football game I had as a kid. Made lots of noise but mostly it was just players running in circles! 😂

[Rc2catch]

I think it’s gonna be a ton of run, short passing game, and an occasional deep shot on play action. I’m not sure Pittsburgh can rush AND defend within the ten yard range. I would think Diggs and Beasley will be wide open on anything within 10 yards every single play. 

[NickelCity]

Let Allen loose. Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

[Bookie Man]

I'm interested to see what kind of game plan Daboll will put together. I'm thinking a lot of play action and short passes out of run formations to attack their depleted LB unit. With Haden being out, I could see a lot of short passes to Diggs like last week. Maybe a 8 catch 90 yard kind of day. 

[Joe Ferguson]

If Bills run on 1st down, count this as a loss to the Bills. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

The way to handle the Steeler D is to spread them out and limit their "Blitz" game options. Defensively, it's simple, tackle and limit yards after catch.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

White should play man coverage on Juju all game.  Play zone behind that. Timely blitzes.  

Allen needs a designed QB run in the first series or two.  Keep the backs in to block.  Steelers still use a lot of zone blitzes so they need to play smart and Josh needs to trust the o-line to hold up.  

[Bangarang]

Throw the ball well and cover the short stuff against Pitt. Ben cannot throw the ball downfield anymore and Pitt cannot run the ball. Keep everything in front of you and it should be hard for them to score.

[Magox]

For the offense:

 

Throw on first down

Try to burn them on deeper passes when they match up one on one

Screens against the blitz

 

On Defense:

 

Stop the run

Keep everything in front of the DB's.

[NickelCity]

56 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

White should play man coverage on Juju all game.  Play zone behind that. 

 

Actually asking here: are there any breakdowns of how effective that is? I've always wondered whether it makes the zone more difficult to execute. 

[Tatonka68]

Run the ball. Two weeks ago RGIII burned Pittsburgh blitz with QB draws. Watch Allen break 100 yards rushing.

[CaptnCoke11]

Quick passes.  Make their linebackers have to play.  I think they’ll be able to run the ball some too.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

25 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Quick passes.  Make their linebackers have to play.  I think they’ll be able to run the ball some too.  

 

That's my thinking. 

[Solomon Grundy]

Offensively, go spread and play uptempo. Occasional draw plays to slow down pass rush. Pittsburgh playing with backups, prone for mistakes 

Defensively, come after Ben. Blitz up the middle. He's not as mobile and prone to make mistakes

Edited December 13, 2020 by Solomon Grundy

[Ethan in Cleveland]

25 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Offensively, go spread and play uptempo. Occasional draw plays to slow down pass rush. Pittsburgh playing with backups, prone for mistakes 

Defensively, come after Ben. Blitz up the middle. He's not as mobile and prone to make mistakes

They are missing starting center too

[Billsfan1972]

6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't understand how anyone would watch that NE game and think that anything on offense was "dictated".  Daboll made a strategic choice that NE's weakness was run D and their strength was pass D.  He said "we're gonna run it until you show you can stop us".

 

Against KC, the problem wasn't the plan, but the execution.  The plan was pretty clearly for the offense to sustain drives with a pass-based offense while the defense stifled the KC quick strike deep pass game.  Neither plan worked.

 

First two offensive drives 9 pass plays, 3 run plays (with 1 probably a scramble by Allen).  10 pass, 2 run or at most, 9 pass 2 run.  7 incompletions, 2 completions.  The pass game wasn't working too well.  We scored a TD on the 3rd drive where we led with the run, 9 runs to 4 pass (50% completion with a dpi).  And even there, 4 of the runs were probably called pass plays and Allen scrambles, so in terms of called plays probably still 7 or 8 pass to 5 or 4 runs.  There was some "dictation" there in that KC was playing physical, but mostly it was that Brown was playing hampered and Allen just missed on some throws.  It was the second of his "massive linebacker brace" games.

 

Then on D we gave up long runs or YAC and lost contain on Mahomes, NOT part of the plan.

 

A wounded below average NE team was within a last minute fumble of beating the Bills.  Allen threw it 18 times against a NE secondary without Gilmore.  The Bills certainly played into NE's hand that week..  

Edited December 13, 2020 by Billsfan1972

[ALLEN1QB]

Bombs away

[Rocky Landing]

Defensively, with Conner, and Pouncey both active, we're going to see a much more balanced Steelers team than last week vs. WFT. If the Steelers have their run game going,  I hope we see a lot of 4-3, with Klein, Edmunds, and Milano all out there. And do whatever we can to get Big Ben out of the pocket.

 

Offensively, their LBs are depleted, save TJ Watt. And, they're missing their best CB. They're going to try to force Josh into quick throws so they can bring their DBs in. We need to get them to respect the run, try to keep them to a four man rush, give Josh time in the pocket, and make them defend the entire field. They just don't have the manpower to do that. 

 

Just my two cents.

[3rdand12]

7 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

Defensively, with Conner, and Pouncey both active, we're going to see a much more balanced Steelers team than last week vs. WFT. If the Steelers have their run game going,  I hope we see a lot of 4-3, with Klein, Edmunds, and Milano all out there. And do whatever we can to get Big Ben out of the pocket.

 

Offensively, their LBs are depleted, save TJ Watt. And, they're missing their best CB. They're going to try to force Josh into quick throws so they can bring their DBs in. We need to get them to respect the run, try to keep them to a four man rush, give Josh time in the pocket, and make them defend the entire field. They just don't have the manpower to do that. 

 

Just my two cents.

I'll chip in my two cents into the pot and agree with you. Bolded is the key for Bills defense. Lets hope our LBs are up for Steelers running game.

I am looking forward to see what kind of pressure Bills D will put on Creaky Old Man Ben.

Go Bills

Edited December 13, 2020 by 3rdand12

[Rocky Landing]

21 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

I'll chip in my two cents into the pot and agree with you. Bolded is the key for Bills defense. Lets hope our LBs are up for Steelers running game.

I am looking forward to see what kind of pressure Bills D will put on Creaky Old Man Ben.

Go Bills

I think a lot of this game might hinge on who gets an early lead. If I were Mike Tomlin, I would be very focused on going into halftime with a lead. If they come out in the second half having to play from behind, with all the drops, and mistakes their receivers have been making the past few weeks (especially Washington, and Johnson-- but even Ebron has had some issues with drops), they're going to have problems. And if we could have an effective 4-man pass rush under those circumstances, we could dominate them in the second half. Or am I just being a homer...?

[3rdand12]

8 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I think a lot of this game might hinge on who gets an early lead. If I were Mike Tomlin, I would be very focused on going into halftime with a lead. If they come out in the second half having to play from behind, with all the drops, and mistakes their receivers have been making the past few weeks (especially Washington, and Johnson-- but even Ebron has had some issues with drops), they're going to have problems. And if we could have an effective 4-man pass rush under those circumstances, we could dominate them in the second half. Or am I just being a homer...?

Your being a  Homer for sure.

 And I can respect that position
I worry about Bills 3rd quarter. Have a history of ,, well not being very good just after the half.
 

[Rocky Landing]

38 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Your being a  Homer for sure.

 And I can respect that position
I worry about Bills 3rd quarter. Have a history of ,, well not being very good just after the half.
 

I sometimes wonder if Daboll isn't game planning for the second half before the game even starts. I feel like there have been several games where there was barely a running game in the first half, and then we came out running in the 3rd quarter, and by the 4th we've reverted back to what was working in the first half. There have been at least a couple games where I thought the halftime adjustments were good on both sides of the ball (and halftime adjustment are usually good defensively). But, historically, halftime adjustments have not been Daboll's strong suit.

[3rdand12]

5 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I sometimes wonder if Daboll isn't game planning for the second half before the game even starts. I feel like there have been several games where there was barely a running game in the first half, and then we came out running in the 3rd quarter, and by the 4th we've reverted back to what was working in the first half. There have been at least a couple games where I thought the halftime adjustments were good on both sides of the ball (and halftime adjustment are usually good defensively). But, historically, halftime adjustments have not been Daboll's strong suit.

My concern has been the defense as well.

Frazier's group came out lack luster in the 3rd quite often 1st half of the season.
But both sides of the ball are trending up at the right time.

 Is this the Game Bills want to finally establish a running game ?  Be nice to start a second half with some runs for 1st downs

[Rocky Landing]

13 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

My concern has been the defense as well.

Frazier's group came out lack luster in the 3rd quite often 1st half of the season.
But both sides of the ball are trending up at the right time.

 Is this the Game Bills want to finally establish a running game ?  Be nice to start a second half with some runs for 1st downs

Be nice to start the first half with some runs for 1st downs. Make the Steelers defend the whole field, and they will struggle. 

[Scott7975]

The gameplan will be to make a statement and kick their ^&#$^#*^$

[prissythecat]

9 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yep I repeat it over & over that the Bills need to ascert themselves on offense and always am concerned at how this coaching staff approaches games vs. top teams with top defenses in less then perfect weather.

 

So the forecast is fine & hope the Bills come out like they did vs.SF/Seattle.....

 

My biggest disappointments were their game plan vs. NE & KC, where they let the opponent and "elements" dictate their offense.

 

It should be the Steelers worried about containing the Bills offense and keeping them off the field, not vice-versa.

 

The Bills put up 27+ & they will win.   

 

Ram it down the Steelers throats!!!!!😆  

 

The strength of the Steeler defense is against the pass.   I believe they are ranked 1st in passing yards allowed per game at just under 200 yards allowed per game.  So we are likely not going to see your favorite meaningless 300 yard stat.  I think the Bills will need to have a balanced attack and rush the ball to open up the pass.

[Mr. K]

A strategy called suck suck puke. I hope Daboll can come up with something better in the second. 

 

P.s. Josh, think elvis and sinatra

[SinceThe70s]

12 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yep I repeat it over & over that the Bills need to ascert themselves on offense and always am concerned at how this coaching staff approaches games vs. top teams with top defenses in less then perfect weather.

 

So the forecast is fine & hope the Bills come out like they did vs.SF/Seattle.....

 

My biggest disappointments were their game plan vs. NE & KC, where they let the opponent and "elements" dictate their offense.

 

It should be the Steelers worried about containing the Bills offense and keeping them off the field, not vice-versa.

 

The Bills put up 27+ & they will win.   

 

Ram it down the Steelers throats!!!!!😆  

 

Josh threw for 238. We won, but you weren't entertained. Did I get that right?

[Billsfan1972]

6 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Josh threw for 238. We won, but you weren't entertained. Did I get that right?

The first 29 mins were difficult (thankfully the defense played very well)......

[prissythecat]

52 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

The first 29 mins were difficult (thankfully the defense played very well)......

yes. The first 29 min followed your type of offense that’s why it stunk