Inigo Montoya Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Great point, Daboll does a solid job mixing run and pass out of those 3 and 4 WR looks to keep the defenses guessing. And sub-package or not, Pittsburgh is going to have less talented and experienced back up ILBs on the field who we need to take advantage of. In this game, I'd hope to see more of Knox and Lee Smith lined up next to Darryl Williams to help block TJ Watt with the occasional chip and slip for a TE screen. TJ Watt might be the DPOY this season, but if he has one weakness, it's his size (6'4" and 252 lbs). I'm sure this is overly simplistic and Watt being a bit lighter allows him to be so quick and agile, but I'd use Williams and a TE to just pound him into the ground on every play and hopefully tire him out. Then use every misdirection/jet motion/RPO trick we have in the book and make it difficult for those LBs to trust their eyes and stay disciplined in their gaps. Logan Thomas was lined up on the end with TJ Watt and chipped him all game long last week when the Redskins beat the Steelers. We need to mirror that. We can't have another Joey Bosa fiasco this week. If the O-line can give Josh a chance to go through his reads and throw the ball the Bills will win this game. I really think it's that simple. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ben is the quickest in the league in getting rid of the ball this year mainly because he doesn’t want to get hit. He’s only been sacked 10 times more for that reason than his OL protection. He’s a different Ben than we are used to seeing. Still effective in the passing game but he’s not dropping back, scrambling, throwing deep downfield as much. This. He's become almost Brady-esque in the "live by the blitz, die by the blitz" tendency to know exactly where to go with the ball and get it there ASAP. What's likely to be more effective is to make him uncomfortable in the pocket - enough pressure that he feels he has to get it out quick, confusing pressure where he's not sure who's rushing and who's dropping back - while clogging the middle and taking away those quick throws or stuffing them for minimal YAC. I think it's also possible that Ben may feel inspired to emulate the young gun on the other side, so we might get a few surprises. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I really believe JA needs to take a page out of the captain checkdown— Alex Smith’s—playbook. Dump off passes to RB’s and TE’s. He needs to get the ball out fast. Dink and dunk it. That is how Brady neutralized the Steelers for years, and how Alex Smith was able to move the ball last week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 RE: the above posts about Big Ben getting the ball out quick, getting hands up into throwing lanes will be huge this week. I hope to see at least 3 batted passes at the LoS from our defensive line and an INT as a result. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, SCBills said: Interesting. I wouldn’t have thought that, but I guess that’s because I always have nightmares of Fitzmagic games where he simultaneously catches the snap and throws. Fitz always gives us Fitz. The fact that he's played for and against us for so many years the guy is just too smart to not take advantage. I know different oc/dc/HC but I feel like he's always in the zone when we've played him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Adam Schein's convinced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Adam Schein's convinced. I agree. Bills & Steelers are very similar teams. Both have good defenses. Both have elite WR groups. Both have mediocre RB/TE play. Bills have an edge in OL. The main difference between the teams.. They have the best defensive player - TJ Watt. We have the best offensive player - Josh Allen. Edited December 11, 2020 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Updated weather: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 This is a statement game for the Bills. Primetime slot with national audience watching against a top team in this league. For a regular season game it doesn't get much better than this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I really believe JA needs to take a page out of the captain checkdown— Alex Smith’s—playbook. Dump off passes to RB’s and TE’s. He needs to get the ball out fast. Dink and dunk it. That is how Brady neutralized the Steelers for years, and how Alex Smith was able to move the ball last week. Watching that game I said to my buddies Washington will never win this because Smith refuses to throw past 5 yards. Once he started push it alittle farther downfield the momentum of that game shifted. Just saying. It’s good to play smart, not cowardly. Edited December 11, 2020 by BananaB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, SCBills said: Both have elite WR groups. Not sure I would call Steelers WR elite (though having 3 in the top 40 of yards is obviously good). I have Bills, Falcons, Hawks, Rams, Chiefs, Cowboys, texans with top two pairings that are better in terms of yardage. It is interesting that they have 3 inside the top 40 but none inside the top 30. However I'm not sure I'm ready to call them elite since they dont really scare me at the top end. It should be noted Big Ben also leads the league in attempts and completions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, BananaB said: Watching that game I said to my buddies Washington will never win this because Smith refuses to throw past 5 yards. Once he started push it alittle farther downfield the momentum of that game shifted. Just saying. It’s good to play smart, not cowardly. good point. That one late throw he had (the 1-handed catch) was really the play of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: Updated weather: Not too bad at all for a mid December night game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBBills Fan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 getting excited!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Steptide said: The face of knowing it was on you...... So hard to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 https://podbay.fm/p/pardon-my-take/e/1607671006 Bills talk at 36:45ish. They've been craving a Bills home game. "...Bills fans are essential workers. Ill just say it. Bills fans are essential workers. They make my Sunday's that much better..." And Pinto Ron with a shoutout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I don't follow the Steelers that close and wasn't aware of how beat up their LBs are. Watt is the only #1 playing. Daboll, make it happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: The face of knowing it was on you...... So hard to watch. Josh blew a 16 point lead ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Greg S said: This is ANOTHER statement game for the Bills. Primetime slot with national audience watching against a top team in this league. For a regular season game it doesn't get much better than this. Fify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I really believe JA needs to take a page out of the captain checkdown— Alex Smith’s—playbook. Dump off passes to RB’s and TE’s. He needs to get the ball out fast. Dink and dunk it. That is how Brady neutralized the Steelers for years, and how Alex Smith was able to move the ball last week. The encouraging thing about last week was we saw a number of plays like that from Josh against the 49ers This is cut out of Chris Simms unbuttoned so the quality is poor, but just look at the number of completed passes behind or at the LOS - I count 8 - or within ~5 yds - 12 of 15 or something like that. Those are those quick fast dink-n-dunks. Allen was taking those. That's huge. That's a huge step. 10 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Josh blew a 16 point lead ? Some people can never bury their dead horse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The encouraging thing about last week was we saw a number of plays like that from Josh against the 49ers This is cut out of Chris Simms unbuttoned so the quality is poor, but just look at the number of completed passes behind or at the LOS - I count 8 - or within ~5 yds - 12 of 15 or something like that. Those are those quick fast dink-n-dunks. Allen was taking those. That's huge. That's a huge step. Some people can never bury their dead horse I'm going to say that's part of why Cole had such a big night 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Comebackkid said: I'm going to say that's part of why Cole had such a big night True Dawson Knox had a big night for him - first 100% catch night, 4 receptions on 4 targets and only for 27 yds. He had 4 receptions on 6 targets once last season but for much more yards. Devin Singletary, 3 receptions on 4 targets for 20 yds. Zach Moss 1 for 1, 5 yds. Learning to be patient. Learning to take what the D gives him. Learning to dink n dunk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: True Dawson Knox had a big night for him - first 100% catch night, 4 receptions on 4 targets and only for 27 yds. He had 4 receptions on 6 targets once last season but for much more yards. Devin Singletary, 3 receptions on 4 targets for 20 yds. Zach Moss 1 for 1, 5 yds. Learning to be patient. Learning to take what the D gives him. Learning to dink n dunk. Right, basically just dissected wherever the hole was in the zone and went there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Comebackkid said: Right, basically just dissected wherever the hole was in the zone and went there Not just that, but taking the throw to Motor or Knox in the flats. I'm the one who's been so frustrated with Allen's unwillingness to do that over the past years that I've factitiously suggested equipping them with 10 ft blaze orange fiberglass snowpoles to help Josh spot them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Not just that, but taking the throw to Motor or Knox in the flats. I'm the one who's been so frustrated with Allen's unwillingness to do that over the past years that I've factitiously suggested equipping them with 10 ft blaze orange fiberglass snowpoles to help Josh spot them. exactly. I can think of two occasions where he threw to Motor in the flat and he made a guy miss and got at least 5 yards. Take it Josh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Not just that, but taking the throw to Motor or Knox in the flats. I'm the one who's been so frustrated with Allen's unwillingness to do that over the past years that I've factitiously suggested equipping them with 10 ft blaze orange fiberglass snowpoles to help Josh spot them. I think those all reds should do the trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: exactly. I can think of two occasions where he threw to Motor in the flat and he made a guy miss and got at least 5 yards. Take it Josh. Yep....obviously 2nd and 4 or 5 is always better for the offense than 2nd and 10. The time to take chances is actually in those 2nd and 3 or 4 situations! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Not just that, but taking the throw to Motor or Knox in the flats. I'm the one who's been so frustrated with Allen's unwillingness to do that over the past years that I've factitiously suggested equipping them with 10 ft blaze orange fiberglass snowpoles to help Josh spot them. Isn't this a funny "problem" to have? How any years did we all complain about the Trent Edwards and others who only checked down?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Isn't this a funny "problem" to have? How any years did we all complain about the Trent Edwards and others who only checked down?! I forget who said it, but one of us facetiously suggested that if Trent Edwards and Josh Allen were to meet, it would be like matter and anti-matter colliding 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Wiz Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, TPS said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Who has the best chance to beat the Chiefs in the NFL? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, TPS said: not many if at all maybe 10 % over a career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said: Josh blew a 16 point lead ? Yes. Had he done his job at linebacker, we never would have surrendered our lead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, TPS said: Drew Brees rookie season 55.6% completion to 65.5% in year 4 (his "NFL comeback player of the year" award year) would be close to the first (10% rise) Then his 4th year with NO up to 70.6% for 15% rise from his rookie year. But it took more than 3 years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, TPS said: Who has the best chance to beat the Chiefs in the NFL? As much as I watch and talk about this team, these stats blow me away. If that is so true, why do I sweat through every game day shirt? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, wjag said: As much as I watch and talk about this team, these stats blow me away. If that is so true, why do I sweat through every game day shirt? It takes awhile to come to grips with the fact these aren’t our same old Bills. I’m still working through it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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