Jake Kumerow signed to 53

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Logic]

I'm thinking he'll be on the active roster until John Brown returns from IR, at which point one would have to think he gets cut and returns to practice squad. Unless, of course, they view as contributions on special teams as so vital that they don't want to risk subjecting him to waivers.

[Motorin']

No one has really said it, but the one thing our wr core seems to be lacking is the bigger possession receiver that can be that security blanket. Bease ends up being that a lot out of the slot, and Kumerow's singing may end up being more for special teams. But I'd love for Josh to have that big target he can look to in the crunch. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Someone was trying to sign him?  GB maybe?

[Don Otreply]

Just saw this come up, Milano and Dodson are designated to return as well. 
I wonder if Kumerow will be more than an ST guy... 

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

No one has really said it, but the one thing our wr core seems to be lacking is the bigger possession receiver that can be that security blanket. Bease ends up being that a lot out of the slot, and Kumerow's singing may end up being more for special teams. But I'd love for Josh to have that big target he can look to in the crunch. 

Gabriel Davis is 6'2" and 210 lbs.  Does that qualify as bigger? 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Someone was trying to sign him?  GB maybe?

 

Probably - Rodgers loves the guy.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

No one has really said it, but the one thing our wr core seems to be lacking is the bigger possession receiver that can be that security blanket. Bease ends up being that a lot out of the slot, and Kumerow's singing may end up being more for special teams. But I'd love for Josh to have that big target he can look to in the crunch. 

 

Wouldn't Hodgins be that? 6'4" and some said he had the best hands in the entire draft.

[thenorthremembers]

3 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

No one has really said it, but the one thing our wr core seems to be lacking is the bigger possession receiver that can be that security blanket. Bease ends up being that a lot out of the slot, and Kumerow's singing may end up being more for special teams. But I'd love for Josh to have that big target he can look to in the crunch. 

Gabe Davis?

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

No one has really said it, but the one thing our wr core seems to be lacking is the bigger possession receiver that can be that security blanket. Bease ends up being that a lot out of the slot, and Kumerow's singing may end up being more for special teams. But I'd love for Josh to have that big target he can look to in the crunch. 

Gabe Davis has been out there mossing people. He has some size. I like Kumerow as an option but I think this only temporary unless there is another WR injury. 

Edited December 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[The Frankish Reich]

Duke, we hardly knew ye

[Logic]

12 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

No one has really said it, but the one thing our wr core seems to be lacking is the bigger possession receiver that can be that security blanket. Bease ends up being that a lot out of the slot, and Kumerow's singing may end up being more for special teams. But I'd love for Josh to have that big target he can look to in the crunch. 

Gabriel Davis is becoming this guy. Look no further than his high-point catch against the Chargers on Sunday.

Isaiah Hodgins has a chance to become this guy, too, but he's apparently redshirting this year.

[HappyDays]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

Gabriel Davis is becoming this guy. Look no further than his high-point catch against the Chargers on Sunday.

 

I'd like to see the Bills call more vertical plays for him. We shouldn't have to wait for a free play. That's been missing from our offense.

[Motorin']

15 minutes ago, chknwing334 said:

Gabriel Davis is 6'2" and 210 lbs.  Does that qualify as bigger? 

 

14 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

Wouldn't Hodgins be that? 6'4" and some said he had the best hands in the entire draft.

 

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Gabe Davis has been out there mossing people. He has some size. I like Kumerow as an option but I think this only temporary unless there is another WR injury. 

 

4 minutes ago, Logic said:

Gabriel Davis is becoming this guy. Look no further than his high-point catch against the Chargers on Sunday.

Isaiah Hodgins has a chance to become this guy, too, but he's apparently redshirting this year.

 

Gabe Davis has good size and a very good vertical. I see him as an outside wr who can make big plays, but less as a possession wr that knows how to his size  as leverage to get open and be a security blanket. Maybe Hodgins can be that guy, but that remains to be seen.

 

 

 

 

[YattaOkasan]

23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Someone was trying to sign him?  GB maybe?

I think I told you this might be coming when you asked about protected players.  Sorry not sure where I gloat.

[SCBills]

Gabriel Davis needs to be given more chances..  He's got a lot of Chase Claypool in him, where he can just Moss dudes on deep routes.  

 

I'd like to see him take the John Brown role, as a different type of deep threat, in these next 2 games.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2020 by SCBills

[Logic]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'd like to see the Bills call more vertical plays for him. We shouldn't have to wait for a free play. That's been missing from our offense.

Agreed.

I have very few critiques of Daboll, who I happen to think is an excellent play caller 90% of the time.

My one "wish list item" that never seems to come true is called deep shots. For years, we've heard "we're taking what the defense gives us". And while obviously you don't want to force things deep, it seems the Bills are more willing to let defenses dictate to them than some other teams. Opposing defenses play the Chiefs and Seahawks similarly to how they play the Bills -- soft zones, doing everything they can to take away the deep ball -- and yet those teams still take those shots, and they still complete deep passes. I'd like to see the Bills not be SO scared of what a defense is doing that they're unwilling to even TRY to throw it deep.

The rate at which ticky-tack defensive pass interference penalties are called these days is another great reason to dial up regular deep shots to Davis and Diggs.

[T master]

Is this guy really that good i never here anything about him other than things like this is he a ST's guy ?? Is he better than Duke as a WR ? 

[hemma]

Anti Hail Mary specialist.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I haven’t noticed this guy on the field one time on offense. Has he even taken a snap at WR? Or is it all STs?

[The Frankish Reich]

3 minutes ago, hemma said:

Anti Hail Mary specialist.

That alone would be worth keeping him for. 

[YoloinOhio]

13 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

I think I told you this might be coming when you asked about protected players.  Sorry not sure where I gloat.

I think it could also just be that he’s out of free call ups, and they need him until smoke returns 

[buffaloboyinATL]

37 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Someone was trying to sign him?  GB maybe?

Most likely. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Kumerow active against the Chargers?  I am pretty sure I saw him flying all over the place on special teams.  

[Buffalo Junction]

5 minutes ago, T master said:

Is this guy really that good i never here anything about him other than things like this is he a ST's guy ?? Is he better than Duke as a WR ? 

He’s 6’4” 215 and surprisingly agile for that size. Doesn’t have a big vertical or great speed to go with that size, which is part of why he could never beat out other more physically talented WRs. Rodgers liked him because he’s a solid route runner that seems to work towards the QB or soft spots between zones when the QB is out of the pocket. Whether all that is innate or due to his relationship with Rodgers IDK. 

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Most likely. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Kumerow active against the Chargers?  I am pretty sure I saw him flying all over the place on special teams.  

Yes he was active 

[Royale with Cheese]

47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

@teef

You do not have better hair.

[YattaOkasan]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think it could also just be that he’s out of free call ups, and they need him until smoke returns 

Oh yeah definitely.  Hap was just asking about why they protected the PS players they did.  The thing that struck me was the Kumerow was not on the list which meant he might get put on the active roster.  PS protections have seemed to be about emergency needs in response to Covid for which he could still be called up even if hes out of his 2 elevations (right?).  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Most likely. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Kumerow active against the Chargers?  I am pretty sure I saw him flying all over the place on special teams.  

 

Yes, he’s been active the last 3 games and playing about 50% of the ST snaps.  Has seen the field a handful of times on offense but I haven’t picked him out yet.  3 snaps against the Seasnakes, 1 last week.

 

I thought it had to do with backfilling for Taiwan Jones who was injured during NE, but Jones was active and played most of the ST snaps last week and Kumerow still played 50%.  So I think they must feel he “earned it”.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

13 minutes ago, Logic said:

Agreed.

I have very few critiques of Daboll, who I happen to think is an excellent play caller 90% of the time.

My one "wish list item" that never seems to come true is called deep shots. For years, we've heard "we're taking what the defense gives us". And while obviously you don't want to force things deep, it seems the Bills are more willing to let defenses dictate to them than some other teams. Opposing defenses play the Chiefs and Seahawks similarly to how they play the Bills -- soft zones, doing everything they can to take away the deep ball -- and yet those teams still take those shots, and they still complete deep passes. I'd like to see the Bills not be SO scared of what a defense is doing that they're unwilling to even TRY to throw it deep.

The rate at which ticky-tack defensive pass interference penalties are called these days is another great reason to dial up regular deep shots to Davis and Diggs.

I wonder if Josh isn't quite there yet with the deep ball, Daboll might just be doing things Josh has been doing well. Maybe if there would have been more time in the preseason/ota's there would have been a better comfort level.  I think they will try to round off the offense with more deep balls next year, along with finding a way to improve the running game.

[teef]

5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

@teef

You do not have better hair.

if i had hair like that as a 43 yr old man, people would think i was in a cover band.

Edited December 2, 2020 by teef

[QLBillsFan]

26 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Gabriel Davis needs to be given more chances..  He's got a lot of Chase Claypool in him, where he can just Moss dudes on deep routes.  

 

I'd like to see him take the John Brown role, as a different type of deep threat, in these next 2 games.

 

 

Davis is really good. Can he go deep, sure. But he’s that big body possession receiver. Everyone wants to replace John brown yet he’s clearly a difference maker. We are better with smoke. 

[LeGOATski]

Kumerow is the 'before' and  Lee Smith is the 'after'

 

 

Edited December 2, 2020 by LeGOATski

[Motorin']

24 minutes ago, hemma said:

Anti Hail Mary specialist.

I was thinking about this, why not put Josh in the endzone on the Hail Mary? He's the tallest and most athletic guy on the team. Tell him to volley ball spike the ball. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Yes, he’s been active the last 3 games and playing about 50% of the ST snaps.  Has seen the field a handful of times on offense but I haven’t picked him out yet.  3 snaps against the Seasnakes, 1 last week.

 

I thought it had to do with backfilling for Taiwan Jones who was injured during NE, but Jones was active and played most of the ST snaps last week and Kumerow still played 50%.  So I think they must feel he “earned it”.

Yeah, he was noticeable on special teams on several plays.  His hair, size and speed were all evident.  

[Jauronimo]

43 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'd like to see the Bills call more vertical plays for him. We shouldn't have to wait for a free play. That's been missing from our offense.

Agreed.  Maybe my memory fails me, but I swore we were seeing daily deep connections to Davis in camp but during the season we have not seen many deep shots to him.  If he's in single coverage throw it up and let him make a play.

[TPS]

He's the new Duke Williams, we just never got an opportunity to see him in a preseason game...

Seriously, he does have a chance to become a productive NFL player.  Last year he started 4 games for the Pack and averaged 18.3 ypc on 12 catches.  I'd really like to see him get a chance and see what he can do. 

[Joe Ferguson]

This Jake signing tells you what a suck ass Duke Williams really is.

[BuffaloBill]

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Duke, we hardly knew ye

 

It’s a shame. I had high hopes for the kid.

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

No one has really said it, but the one thing our wr core seems to be lacking is the bigger possession receiver that can be that security blanket. Bease ends up being that a lot out of the slot, and Kumerow's singing may end up being more for special teams. But I'd love for Josh to have that big target he can look to in the crunch. 

No one has said it because it's not true. Go look at the height of our receivers and then come back and talk

6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

This Jake signing tells you what a suck ass Duke Williams really is.

A suck ass😂😂😂

Edited December 2, 2020 by Dablitzkrieg

[Don Otreply]

43 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

He’s 6’4” 215 and surprisingly agile for that size. Doesn’t have a big vertical or great speed to go with that size, which is part of why he could never beat out other more physically talented WRs. Rodgers liked him because he’s a solid route runner that seems to work towards the QB or soft spots between zones when the QB is out of the pocket. Whether all that is innate or due to his relationship with Rodgers IDK. 

Actually JK goes in at 209 pounds, per the Bills news release,