Lost in the loss...was the most clutch play we have seen in 20+ years

[No_Matter_What]

13 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

No, the Fins don't have to beat us. They will likely have a superior record straight up.

 

Everyone gets so hung up on tiebreakers, but it rarely comes down to that.

This is straight up wrong. You are basically saying that it is likely that they will have superior record even when we beat them.

 

That's total nonsense. If we ONLY be them, Broncos and Chargers, they will have to go 5-1 or better, which is unlikely. They have Chiefs, @Raiders if nothing else, and I have no idea why so many people assume that they wil automatically win everything else. They play Pats or Cincy and can easily lose any game. 

 

And if we also win any other game (Pats or 49ers), they have to WIN OUT to be ahead of us.

 

So no, it is not likely. This is still our division to lose and if we perform on field, we will win it. They have less than 10% chance to win division if we beat them (and we are still favorites even if we lose).

[34-78-83]

Josh is one of about 3 QB's in the league that can realistically make that throw he made to Diggs. And the catch was a thing of beauty too. I take some solace in that our play was designed.The hail mary was ...well... a hail mary

[SCBills]

I've seen Aaron Rodgers make that throw... and that about completes the list of active QB's, outside Allen, that can rip that.  

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

So let's say Miami is 11-4 and the Bills are 10-5 heading into week 17. Miami won't have to beat us? Yes they will because if we win we'll have head 2 head tie breaker. Very simple. Miami has KC still so right now they can very easily have 4 losses. If they win 11 straight games before facing us week 17 then just tip your cap because they earned it. 

 

 

The Bills may very well be 9-6.

[TheElectricCompany]

Ya'll think that the Diggs TD was that insane of throw? Really?

It was a 30 yard throw to the corner with plenty of cushion.  Great throw, great catch, very clutch, but I didn't walk away thinking it was an "exclusive to Josh" throw.

I know we're all drooling over the concept of a franchise QB, but the "OnLy He CaN do ThAt" takes are way overdone.

 

 

[H2o]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I've seen Aaron Rodgers make that throw... and that about completes the list of active QB's, outside Allen, that can rip that.  

Mahomes and Wilson

[Buffalo_Stampede]

9 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

The Bills may very well be 9-6.

That's on the Bills then. We don't deserve it if we don't win. 

[Bakin]

The catches by all our WR (Beasley on 3rd, Smoke fighting through pain, Diggs is such a Fn Stud) REALLY gives us so much to look forward to. 
Knöx has regressed and I hope he has it in him to become what we all hope. 
Running game leaves a lot to be desired. And that starts with the guys up front who, for some reason, just ace their pass protection 

[Big Gun]

17 hours ago, Sweats said:

Dont look now, but the fish are coming on strong

I think the fish are coached better also.

[LabattBlue]

3 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:

Ya'll think that the Diggs TD was that insane of throw? Really?

It was a 30 yard throw to the corner with plenty of cushion.  Great throw, great catch, very clutch, but I didn't walk away thinking it was an "exclusive to Josh" throw.

I know we're all drooling over the concept of a franchise QB, but the "OnLy He CaN do ThAt" takes are way overdone.

 

 

^^^ This!

[Livinginthepast]

17 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

I'm pissed.  Hopkins is a beast.   Punched a wall.  

 

But in hindsight the allen to diggs was unreal.  Most clutch play ive seen in a long time.  

 

The hail mary...a little luck needed there.  That play allen to diggs was a thing of beauty we have been wanting for a long time.  

 

7-3 and still own the division.   Phins have to beat us.  

 

Go bills. 

Best pass of Josh's career??

[GoBills808]

3 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:

Ya'll think that the Diggs TD was that insane of throw? Really?

It was a 30 yard throw to the corner with plenty of cushion.  Great throw, great catch, very clutch, but I didn't walk away thinking it was an "exclusive to Josh" throw.

I know we're all drooling over the concept of a franchise QB, but the "OnLy He CaN do ThAt" takes are way overdone.

 

 

I can guarantee very few QBs go after Patrick Peterson that way. 

[Mikey152]

Dolphin's schedule isn't all that much easier than ours over then rest of the season...

 

If you Give them the jets game to get to 7 wins, exclude Pats and Broncos (both teams play those games) and ditch the Bills vs Dolphins game, that leaves the Dolphins with Cincy, KC and Vegas and Buffalo with SF, Pitt and SD. I don't think that's all that different.

[MJS]

The Beasley catch was amazing too. I thought it was clear over his head and couldn't believe when the refs made the sign that he was in.

[TheElectricCompany]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

I can guarantee very few QBs go after Patrick Peterson that way. 

 

Josh should only read coverage, not the name on the jersey. Thankfully, the coverage was a joke, and he delivered an accurate ball.

Peterson didn't even slap Diggs arm, he ran right by him!

 

[Success]

Allen was really out of sync yesterday.  I actually thought it was his worst day of the season - I thought he played better in our other losses.

 

But when has he ever had a letdown in the 4th quarter?  He just seems to have that thing that rises to the moment late in games, no matter what has happened the previous 3+ quarters.  Gotta love that.

 

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said:

 

Josh should only read coverage, not the name on the jersey. Thankfully, the coverage was a joke, and he delivered an accurate ball.

Peterson didn't even slap Diggs arm, he ran right by him!

 

Your argument relies on calling Patrick Peterson a joke in coverage and that Allen should 'only read coverage' when Wilson and the Seahawks literally didn't throw at Peterson covering Metcalf the entire game. OK.

[TheElectricCompany]

9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Your argument relies on calling Patrick Peterson a joke in coverage and that Allen should 'only read coverage' when Wilson and the Seahawks literally didn't throw at Peterson covering Metcalf the entire game. OK.

 

We're not talking about Metcalf vs Peterson, that's irrelevant.

 

On this single play,  Diggs ran right by Peterson. Peterson didn't touch him. With <30 seconds left, allowing a #1 receiver a free dash to the end zone is joke coverage.

 

Of course, this all works out to our benefit. I'm glad we got it done. Josh probably was shocked to see Diggs running free like that.

Edited November 16, 2020 by TheElectricCompany

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

17 hours ago, High Football IQ said:

 

We don't own the division, next week the Fish will be 7-3 and tied with us in the loss column. And given their next 3 they will be 9-3 which means the pressure is on the Bills to win the next two and keep pace.

 

And it's highly unlikely this team is going to be 11-4 heading into the final game against Miami. What is very likely is Miami will be 11-4 heading into that game assuming they lose to the Chiefs, if they don't they will likely have the division clinched by the time we play them.

We don't need to have the same record as Miami going into week 17...we can be 10-5 if Miami is 11-4 which is very likely 

Our loss yesterday took away the slim chance that we could lose to Miami and still win the division 

[Greg S]

3 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

The Bills may very well be 9-6.

 

We will have to see how it plays out but they should definitely beat the Chargers and Broncos. The Pats, 49ers, Dolphins will be tough games. I don't think the Bills win all three but they won't lose all three either. IMHO. The Steelers game is the only one I think will be a definite loss. My guess is 10-11 wins for the Bills.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Great perspective.  The defense as bad as it has been made a few critical stops. We all need to realize you can't stop modern NFL offenses. The Bills need to score 28 or 30 + points to win consistently. 

The offense was clutch and they made the plays necessary to win. Our kicker made pressure kicks.

Lots to be happy with even while we are all deflated.

For years I complained about bye weeks that came too early. Now we have a bye at just the right time. 

Get healthy and come back with the right mindset. They can easily go 4-2 or 5-1 the rest of the way. 

If they fold, and lose the division to Miami, Beane will have to answer why McD was extended so early and why no moves were made to help defense. I'm still hugely optimistic they win the division by 2 games. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Thanks OP, you’re absolutely right, and should help put the final outcome of the ridiculous final play into perspective. We have a monster at QB in the making before our eyes, and his supporting cast on O is growing along with him. If we can just plug enough of the holes in the defensive leaky dam, we will be a force to be reckoned with deep into this postseason. 

[GoBills808]

5 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:

 

We're not talking about Metcalf vs Peterson, that's irrelevant.

 

On this single play,  Diggs ran right by Peterson. Peterson didn't touch him. With <30 seconds left, allowing a #1 receiver a free dash to the end zone is joke coverage.

 

Of course, this all works out to our benefit. I'm glad we got it done. Josh probably was shocked to see Diggs running free like that.

'running free'

[BADOLBILZ]

 

 

Losman to Peerless for the game winning TD in Houston in 2006 was far more clutch..........that sh*t was crazy.

 

Down 21-17 Jauron punted the ball with just 2:10 left.

 

And somehow it worked because the Texans went 3 and out and punted and Losman brought them down the field and hurled a great pass to Peerless Price who made a diving TD grab with :09 left for the upset win.

 

That was probably the height of Losman AND Jauron's careers in Buffalo.

 

It's easy to forget that football has been played in Buffalo prior to now but there have been clutch plays and Bills games that ended in spectacular fashion prior to yesterday.

 

It wasn't any big surprise that Josh lead the Bills to a go ahead TD with all that time and TO's left.......had they not gotten a TD on that play it had just been second down with a lot of time and a timeout in hand..........they were still going to get a pretty makable game tying field goal attempt.       

[RyanC883]

On 11/15/2020 at 8:21 PM, Simon said:

I thought the Beasley catch to convert on 3rd down in their own end was every bit as clutch, too.

 

Beasly was clutch all game.  He really was the entire offense for a while. 

[billspro]

On 11/15/2020 at 5:21 PM, Simon said:

I thought the Beasley catch to convert on 3rd down in their own end was every bit as clutch, too.

that play was so amazing. It kept us in the game.

[Thurman#1]

On 11/16/2020 at 10:26 AM, High Football IQ said:

 

We don't own the division, next week the Fish will be 7-3 and tied with us in the loss column. (Yeah ... or not.) And given their next 3 they will be 9-3 (Yeah, or not.)  which means the pressure is on the Bills to win the next two and keep pace (Yeah, or not).

 

And it's highly unlikely this team is going to be 11-4 heading into the final game against Miami. What is very likely is Miami will be 11-4 heading into that game (Yeah, or not). assuming they lose to the Chiefs, if they don't they will likely have the division clinched by the time we play them. (Yeah, or not.)

 

 

This all could certainly happen. Or not.

 

"Highly likely"? Nah, that's considerably over-stating it.

 

More like, "they stand a solid chance to be a playoff team and if balls bounce right, maybe even compete for the division."

Edited November 17, 2020 by Thurman#1

[Hebert19]

22 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:

Ya'll think that the Diggs TD was that insane of throw? Really?

It was a 30 yard throw to the corner with plenty of cushion.  Great throw, great catch, very clutch, but I didn't walk away thinking it was an "exclusive to Josh" throw.

I know we're all drooling over the concept of a franchise QB, but the "OnLy He CaN do ThAt" takes are way overdone.

 

 

That was a rope...over the underneath coverage...just beyond Peterson underneath the receiver but with velocity and placement so he had no chance.   If you look at the angle he had to throw that and the placement combined with velocity...ya.  it was pretty damn amazing. That ball takes longer to get there or is thrown a half second late its a pick for Peterson. 

[Thurman#1]

22 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

The Bills may very well be 9-6.

 

 

Fins may well be 8-7. Or lower. Bills may well be 10-5 or 11-4. We don't really know, and we especially don't really know what Miami is.

 

"May well be," essentially means "could." And there's a wide range of possible outcomes that may well happen.

 

 

18 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:

 

We're not talking about Metcalf vs Peterson, that's irrelevant.

 

On this single play,  Diggs ran right by Peterson. Peterson didn't touch him. With <30 seconds left, allowing a #1 receiver a free dash to the end zone is joke coverage.

 

Of course, this all works out to our benefit. I'm glad we got it done. Josh probably was shocked to see Diggs running free like that.

 

 

Nice job, very comedic.

Edited November 17, 2020 by Thurman#1

[Hebert19]

In case some folks still don't think it was that great of a play.   

 

 

[dave mcbride]

11 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Losman to Peerless for the game winning TD in Houston in 2006 was far more clutch..........that sh*t was crazy.

 

Down 21-17 Jauron punted the ball with just 2:10 left.

 

And somehow it worked because the Texans went 3 and out and punted and Losman brought them down the field and hurled a great pass to Peerless Price who made a diving TD grab with :09 left for the upset win.

 

That was probably the height of Losman AND Jauron's careers in Buffalo.

 

It's easy to forget that football has been played in Buffalo prior to now but there have been clutch plays and Bills games that ended in spectacular fashion prior to yesterday.

 

It wasn't any big surprise that Josh lead the Bills to a go ahead TD with all that time and TO's left.......had they not gotten a TD on that play it had just been second down with a lot of time and a timeout in hand..........they were still going to get a pretty makable game tying field goal attempt.       

Agreed, it doesn't get anymore crazy clutch than this. What a throw and catch! Losman did have a cannon ...

 

 

That said, I'll raise you one because this was a fourth down play: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201109180buf.htm. As for the Allen play, yes, it was a great throw, but it was first down and the Bills only needed a FG to tie the game. It wasn't do or die yet. In fact, that throw wasn't even the most clutch throw of the season. There were a couple of plays in that Rams game that surpassed it.

Edited November 17, 2020 by dave mcbride

[Hebert19]

31 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Agreed, it doesn't get anymore crazy clutch than this. What a throw and catch! Losman did have a cannon ...

 

 

That said, I'll raise you one because this was a fourth down play: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201109180buf.htm. As for the Allen play, yes, it was a great throw, but it was first down and the Bills only needed a FG to tie the game. It wasn't do or die yet. In fact, that throw wasn't even the most clutch throw of the season. There were a couple of plays in that Rams game that surpassed it.

How is the clutch when your team's going to finish six and 10 at best.  

 

Clutch means something 

[Pokebball]

On 11/15/2020 at 6:26 PM, High Football IQ said:

 

We don't own the division, next week the Fish will be 7-3 and tied with us in the loss column. And given their next 3 they will be 9-3 which means the pressure is on the Bills to win the next two and keep pace.

 

And it's highly unlikely this team is going to be 11-4 heading into the final game against Miami. What is very likely is Miami will be 11-4 heading into that game assuming they lose to the Chiefs, if they don't they will likely have the division clinched by the time we play them.

Don't change

[Big Turk]

12 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Losman to Peerless for the game winning TD in Houston in 2006 was far more clutch..........that sh*t was crazy.

 

Down 21-17 Jauron punted the ball with just 2:10 left.

 

And somehow it worked because the Texans went 3 and out and punted and Losman brought them down the field and hurled a great pass to Peerless Price who made a diving TD grab with :09 left for the upset win.

 

That was probably the height of Losman AND Jauron's careers in Buffalo.

 

It's easy to forget that football has been played in Buffalo prior to now but there have been clutch plays and Bills games that ended in spectacular fashion prior to yesterday.

 

It wasn't any big surprise that Josh lead the Bills to a go ahead TD with all that time and TO's left.......had they not gotten a TD on that play it had just been second down with a lot of time and a timeout in hand..........they were still going to get a pretty makable game tying field goal attempt.       

 

It wasn't any surprise more because he has done it more than any other QB in the NFL since 2018 with the exception of Brees. And imagine if he hadn't gotten hurt in that Houston game and the Patriot game where Barkley had them knocking on the endzone in the 4th Q to take the lead.  Does anyone believe that Allen wouldn't have won that game?

Edited November 17, 2020 by matter2003

[BADOLBILZ]

6 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

How is the clutch when your team's going to finish six and 10 at best.  

 

Clutch means something 

 

 

To put that season in perspective.......in the prior two weeks......they had beaten Brett Favre at home on a dramatic late game interception as the Pack were near the goal line ready to score....... and had somehow just lost by 1 point to Peyton Manning in Indy holding that score down to 17-16.......very edge of your seat finishes....and Bills fans were loving the direction of Jauron ball.......they reached 7-7.......a 9-7 Chiefs team made the playoffs that year.......but a heartbreaking 30-29 loss at home to Tennessee(***** Robert Royal) put them at 7-8 and basically put an end to the Jaurondimonium that was building.

 

It wasn't a Super Bowl team but it was VERY similar in style to the 2017 Bills that you were probably amazed by.

 

 

[McGahee]

On 11/16/2020 at 9:32 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They could be. I said a couple weeks ago they remind me of the 2004 Bills. I don't know if people clearly remember that season. The ball just always bounced our way. TD's on defense and special teams. Just everything went out way. Every Miami win has defensive TD's and huge special teams plays. Not sure that will continue. I'm anxious to see what happens when they have to win without those plays. We'll see. They're making the plays so they get the credit. 

 

They didn't have a defensive touchdown against the Chargers.

[Greg S]

11 minutes ago, McGahee said:

 

They didn't have a defensive touchdown against the Chargers.

 

I think they blocked a punt deep in Chargers territory which set up an easy TD. Give them credit they are making big plays on D and ST to win games.