Why this game against the Patriots is NOWHERE NEAR monumental

[Don Otreply]

Like all of our AFCE games it’s important, kind of a no brainer don’t ya think.
 

Its Kraft and Beli boys fault the pats suck this year, they purposely let the team fall apart, end of discussion.

 

Sorry, but your angst is your own on this topic. 
 

And Fuh k the whole pats organization top to bottom, cheating pieces of 💩 every one of them. 
 

Go Bills!!!

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Does anyone else just want to whoop them?  Just up and down the field kick the crap out of them?  Thats what i want to see.

[papazoid]

i'm going the other way....

 

this game will define the season.

 

we must dethrone NE from division champ by beating them heads up.

 

if we lose this game, we are spinning our wheels as a wild card team losing first playoff game

 

if we win, we are a legit playoff team ...probably a #4 seed with a very tough opening playoff matchup that could go either way. 

[PromoTheRobot]

As soon as we beat the Pats the game will become meaningless. 

[Greg S]

9 minutes ago, papazoid said:

i'm going the other way....

 

this game will define the season.

 

we must dethrone NE from division champ by beating them heads up.

 

if we lose this game, we are spinning our wheels as a wild card team losing first playoff game

 

if we win, we are a legit playoff team ...probably a #4 seed with a very tough opening playoff matchup that could go either way. 

 

If they do win the division and go into the playoffs as the #4 seed then I would guess the #5 seed will be either Pit/Bal. Which ever one doesn't win the AFCN. Long way to go but that is how it looks right now.

[Freddie's Dead]

This game is WWII for the Bills.  No more, no less....

[SWATeam]

You know what would make this game monumental???  A $15k wager!!!

[Homey D. Clown]

If anyone thinks this upcoming game is a walk in the park because Brady isn't there, or that they're 2-4 are delusional.  My gut tells me they (patriots) have a solid 65% chance or better of winning.  Until the Bills sweep them. or beat them soundly, I am still not sold.

[MAJBobby]

They are the defending Division Champs. Until they are not. Go bury the Patriots. 

[RobbRiddick]

19 minutes ago, dneveu said:

Does anyone else just want to whoop them?  Just up and down the field kick the crap out of them?  Thats what i want to see.

 

Yep. Not just because it's the Patriots but because I want to see the offense get back into gear the way it was pre Titans game. They were so much fun to watch the first four weeks.

[bmur66]

2 hours ago, Kwai San said:

 

Some guy named Jack Kemp might disagree with that comment.....Or Jim Kelly depending on whom your JK references.....Oh and Joe Ferguson too....

Yes Sir. You are correct. What I meant to say was Brady has more wins vs. Buffalo than any Buffalo QB has had since Jim Kelly. Brady is 30-3 vs. Buffalo. I have revised my original post.

 

Edited October 29, 2020 by bmur66

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

it's a divisional game where a win gets us closer to the division title. Who said it's monumental?

 

My take is it's just another division game if we win. If we lose it becomes monumental in a negative way. One of those games where there isn't a lot to gain but there is a ton to lose.

 

It probably should be viewed as a huge win though  just in terms of the standings and playoff odds though. Our schedule is ridiculously tough. But any team the Bills lose to the Patriots are nearly assured to lose to as well. So taking this first game against the Pats could very well be the nail in the coffin for their season. Hopefully this team just wins half of those tough games against the Seahawks, Cardinals, 49ers,  Steelers Patriots x2. If we can do that it won't matter if we lose this first head to head with the Pats.

 

Despite some folks suddenly being high on the Dolphins, I just don't see them being a threat for the division just yet. 

[Charles Romes]

Belichick’s legacy is on the line with this game and with the way this season plays out. It is monumental. 

[Real McClappy]

3 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

My take is it's just another division game if we win. If we lose it becomes monumental in a negative way. One of those games where there isn't a lot to gain but there is a ton to lose.

 

It probably should be viewed as a huge win though  just in terms of the standings and playoff odds though. Our schedule is ridiculously tough. But any team the Bills lose to the Patriots are nearly assured to lose to as well. So taking this first game against the Pats could very well be the nail in the coffin for their season. Hopefully this team just wins half of those tough games against the Seahawks, Cardinals, 49ers,  Steelers Patriots x2. If we can do that it won't matter if we lose this first head to head with the Pats.

 

Despite some folks suddenly being high on the Dolphins, I just don't see them being a threat for the division just yet. 

There is a ton to gain until NE has a couple L's in the division column. I think if we go 5-1 in our Divsion we will take it finally... We own our destiny at this phase, I don't want to be hoping on the Dolphins or Pats  to help secure the division for team X to lose.

 

Just get this done ourselves!

 

Current Division records. 

Bills - 3-0

Pats - 1-0

Dolphins - 1-2

Jets - 0-3

 

So, Pats 2x and Dolphins for us. We have to take 2 of the 3.

[eball]

2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Then they play statement games vs. Seattle & Arizona....

 

Both Seattle and Arizona have more flaws than the Bills.  Seattle's D is straight-up trash and I think the Bills can make enough plays with their own D to win that one (in Buffalo).

 

Arizona, for whatever reason, doesn't strike fear into me either.  Their defense is also suspect and Murray still makes a fair share of mistakes.  Those games are big just like any others, but the "statement" game for Buffalo will come against Pittsburgh down the road.

[Seasons1992]

3 hours ago, bmur66 said:

psychological hump

 

[bmur66]

6 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

 

2 pump max or it’s a penalty 

Edited October 29, 2020 by bmur66

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Both Seattle and Arizona have more flaws than the Bills.  Seattle's D is straight-up trash and I think the Bills can make enough plays with their own D to win that one (in Buffalo).

 

Arizona, for whatever reason, doesn't strike fear into me either.  Their defense is also suspect and Murray still makes a fair share of mistakes.  Those games are big just like any others, but the "statement" game for Buffalo will come against Pittsburgh down the road.

 

Zona will be about tackling.  They don't go downfield a lot, but the QB can move and they throw a ton of short stuff.

[Greg S]

27 minutes ago, Homey D. Clown said:

If anyone thinks this upcoming game is a walk in the park because Brady isn't there, or that they're 2-4 are delusional.  My gut tells me they (patriots) have a solid 65% chance or better of winning.  Until the Bills sweep them. or beat them soundly, I am still not sold.

 

I don't expect an easy win. When do the Bills ever give us a nice easy blowout win. Given the Bills troubles stopping the run you know they will run the ball down their throats until the Bills prove they can stop it. My prediction is 24-17 Bills but it will be a one score game throughout the day. Buffalo might even be trailing for a good portion of the game.

[BillsVet]

3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

With or without Brady, the Patriots still stand in the Bills way to a division title.  So I view this as a big game and a critical point in their journey back to being respectable.  Go 6-2 at the halfway point and drop your biggest competition to 2-5.  Anything short of a win is failure to take control of the division and put some hurt on the logo that's been beating you like a drum for almost 2 decades.  Let's not make excuses or minimize the importance of this game.  It time to man-up and play lights out football on Sunday.  Nothing short of maximum effort and focus and preparedness is going to cut it.  Time to slay the beast!  Or punch the bully in the face!  However it can be described.  Get it done right here and right now on Sunday.   

 

It's not just about winning this game regardless of their history with NE.  Buffalo needs to re-establish an ability to score like what happened in weeks 1-4.  Because averaging 17 points for the last 3 games doesn't exactly promise good things to come.  I'd like to see them ring up about 35 this week. 

 

1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said:

This game is WWII for the Bills.  No more, no less....

 

You ever participate in a 2 way live-fire?  Enough with the war analogies. 

 

1 hour ago, Charles Romes said:

Belichick’s legacy is on the line with this game and with the way this season plays out. It is monumental. 

 

No it's not.  Guy's won more than 300 regular/playoff games, and been either a DC or HC during 8 SB wins. 

[thenorthremembers]

Its incredibly big.   You can essentially close the lid on 20 years of dominance on Sunday.  If the Bills get beat the Pats are still in the conversation and the entire season looks different.  The Bills need to win this one.

[Charles Romes]

27 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

 

No it's not.  Guy's won more than 300 regular/playoff games, and been either a DC or HC during 8 SB wins. 

 Right, The whole crowd chanting “it was Brady all along” after the Pats go 5-11 first year after the goat leaves. BB is not concerned about that at all. 

[Greg S]

2 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

 Right, The whole crowd chanting “it was Brady all along” after the Pats go 5-11 first year after the goat leaves. BB is not concerned about that at all. 

 

What crowd?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

6 hours ago, StHustle said:

Why shouldn't this game be considered bigger than if we were facing any other 2-4 division opponent? BECAUSE BRADY IS GONE!! DUH!!!!

 

Because - Belichick

 

Many will say Until the Bills beat the Patriots***  they don't get the true reps that they should deserve. 

 

[formerlyofCtown]

We win this game then the division is likely ours.  We lose it then the division is wide open.

[CodeMonkey]

6 hours ago, StHustle said:

Why shouldn't this game be considered bigger than if we were facing any other 2-4 division opponent? BECAUSE BRADY IS GONE!! DUH!!!!
 

It was a miserable day for me when he officially left the Pats. I sat back shaking my head watching other fans celebrate his departure. Celebrate? Celebrate what? I felt like a loser. I knew it was over. Our chances had dried up. We failed. We let Brady go almost two whole decades owning us. And even when he got into his 40's he still owned us. They swept us countless seasons with him at the helm. I remember thinking last preseason that he would regress a little and maybe we would FINALLY sweep them. Then later thinking how it still would suck because it took for Brady to be 42 for us to finally pull it off. Sweeping him that year wouldn't fix shish. Then the season plays out and what happens? With one last shot at preventing the long ash career sweep shutout,  we allow Brady to land a final KO punch, and HE SWEEPS US!! What an ending. We failed guys. Let's face it, lick our wounds and reset.

 

Oh, and don't try to make this about Belichick. Beating the Pats with Cam at QB is NOWHERE NEAR THE SAME THING AS BEATING THEM WITH BRADY. To me there's an exponential difference if its not The Pair. Many of you seem to be approaching this game with that exact same frame of mind as years past. That baffles me. That slay the dragon mentality, when in reality, there is no longer a dragon around to slay. Our chances to do that have come and gone. All that's left is a permanent stain on our record that will inevitably be mentioned time and time again in the future, because Brady, being the GOAT,  will be talked about forever. His dominance on his division will be talked about forever. Not as much, BUT, his dominance against one team in particular will be talked about forever. WHY? Because he has the most wins of any QB against one team in NFL history. Just a random notch on Tom Brady's belt. It's universally agreed (which is not an easy feat in the sports world) that Tom is the best QB of all time, and Bill is the best head coach of all time. So our only consolation prize is that we can feel a little less bad about it all since it was the GOATs who handed us the most embarrassing 20 year record between division "rivals" in league history. They weren't some random HC-QB pair who shined for an era. NOPE!  ALL TIME GOATS! Unfortunately they landed in the AFC East and we took the brunt of it. They would have done this same thing to some other team if they landed in a different division as a pair (we'd like to think anyway).

 

It damn near makes me physically sick typing this post right now. I never expressed my feelings on this matter neither verbally nor through writing. The feeling is terrible but is mitigated by my belief in the not so distant future for this team. So like I said, let's reset and realize this is nothing more than a home division game that we should win. I think most the players know this and don't have that imaginary psychological hurdle to get over.

 

And lastly, YES! When we win, it WILL feel better than beating the Jets or the Phins. Just seeing the final scoreboard with a larger number next to the Bills logo than what's next to the Pats logo, HELL YEAH! That's just a natural human reaction for people who spent the number of years we have dominated by one team. Wins against them will fill better than other division wins for years to come. Im sure some players will feel that way for at least the next few matches, as will some coaches. Especially McD, who has never beat either of the GOATs. But at the end of the day, when your over the top emotions wear off, just understand a win over the Pats Sunday means nothing more than keeping them in 3rd place and taking a step toward winning a tiebreaker if it comes to that. It wouldn't be some legendary victory or signature win like many are painting it to be. That era is over.

BellyCheat and Krafty still there, but yeah I agree.

[Gordio]

Sobering Statistics 

 

since 2001 Brady is second for QBS in wins at the Ralph/New Era Stadium, 2nd in td passes & 4th in starts.

 

I am glad he is gone

[WotAGuy]

Someone has a major in Drama. Let’s see your headshot. 

[Greg S]

32 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

We win this game then the division is likely ours.  We lose it then the division is wide open.

 

A Bills and Rams win would really put the Bills in the drivers seat for the division. Miami would drop to 3-4 and the Bills already beat them in Miami. NE would fall to 2-5 and the Jets who cares.

[C.Biscuit97]

It’s not the same as facing the Brady Pats.  It’s not. But it can help almost clinch a division title and much like Mike Myers, you need to make sure he is dead.  If someone how the Pats win, they are 3-4 with 4 division games left.  
 

you don’t just assume mike Myers is dead, you chop off his head!

[HOUSE]

Don't care if Brady is gone, I want to beat Bill Belichick.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, HOUSE said:

Don't care if Brady is gone, I want to beat Bill Belichick.

Kinky

[formerlyofCtown]

5 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Don't care if Brady is gone, I want to beat Bill Belichick.

We aren't talking about actually going to the man's house and...oh that isn't what you meant 😈

[formerlyofCtown]

1 hour ago, BillsVet said:

 

It's not just about winning this game regardless of their history with NE.  Buffalo needs to re-establish an ability to score like what happened in weeks 1-4.  Because averaging 17 points for the last 3 games doesn't exactly promise good things to come.  I'd like to see them ring up about 35 this week. 

 

 

You ever participate in a 2 way live-fire?  Enough with the war analogies. 

 

 

No it's not.  Guy's won more than 300 regular/playoff games, and been either a DC or HC during 8 SB wins. 

We definitely need to score against a good D.

 

Maybe he thinks this is a baseball board.

Wins Above Replacement

 

It's like some people think we will beat him and he won't be a first ballet HOFer.

 

"If it wasn't for that first game against the Bills without Brady he woulda got my vote".  Who cares if he has more rings than anyone else in NFL history.(unless Brady can win 2 more for the tie or three for the win without Belichik winning another.)

Edited October 29, 2020 by formerlyofCtown

[Jobot]

If they win this game, the division takes a huge leap in win probability. It's a pretty big game IMO

[Freddie's Dead]

2 hours ago, BillsVet said:

You ever participate in a 2 way live-fire?  Enough with the war analogies. 

 

It was an homage to Marv Levy's "WWII was a must win" quote.  No offense intended.

[Nextmanup]

7 hours ago, njbuff said:

I could care less if this is a monumental game or not. Getting to 6-2 is all that matters.

How much less could you care? 

Quite a lot?

 

Doesn't that mean you care a great deal?

 

🤔

[BITE ME]

It is monumental if it turns out the be the turning point in the AFC East.  If this is the game that marks the changing of the guard from the Pats to the Bills, then it is monumental.  

[Jerome007]

Now it's done, I simply focus on the Bills winning and making the Pats fans wallow in misery and eat some humble pies for decades. But I too was pissed when Brady left. The Bills never got payback, never got revenge. And even then it would have been crumbs of revenges compared to the dishes of hurt Brady delivered, but still better than nothing! Now what's done is done.

 

I really want the Bills to wallop completely the Cheats this Sunday, but with them being so behind the Bills in the standings right now, it's not that critical. Only in the sense that you never let up as it can come back to bite you good later!

[billsfan89]

Forget that it's the Pats this game much like last week is an absolute must win. For one this would heavily bury the Pats in the standings and put the Bills at 4-0 in the division. The Bills also must win to fatten up to 6-2. After the Pats game the Bills play a tough Seahawks team and a tough toss up match up in the Cardinals. Ideally the Bills would split those games and at 6-2 a split would put the Bills at 7-3 going into a very winnable Chargers game. But if you are 6-2 and you lose both games you lick your wounds but you still sit at 6-4 going into a winnable game. 

 

But if you drop this Pats game and go to 5-3 then a split against AZ and SEA puts you at 6-4 and dropping both games puts you at 5-5. Got to beat up on bad opponents, that's what good teams do.