Irv Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) People a freaking out but, Mahomes spelled it out clearly. Bills were protecting deep and gave up the running and middle passing game. They took what we gave them and won. The plan didn't work. They're the Super Bowl Champions and probably could have burned us on long passing plays if we gave them that instead. Let's win the division and figure out how to beat some of these better teams without firing the whole coaching staff and burning down the stadium. Milano would have helped. We'll see Tennessee or KC again. No doubt. We'll learn and we'll be ready. Edited October 20, 2020 by Irv 21 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 People putting a lot of eggs in the Milano basket. 5 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Of course the Bills played a classic cover 2 and wouldn’t give up deep shots the thing is Andy adjusted and ran it..their online beat the Bills Dline...Bills need to have some kind of running game to control the line a scrimmage since they really don’t have one 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 So, in other words, we were ***** either way? 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollaBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, HurlyBurly51 said: People putting a lot of eggs in the Milano basket. Yea people have the same attitude towards Tre too, and he has been very quiet recently 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, stevestojan said: So, in other words, we were ***** either way? correct. and still...., we strip that ball a half second earlier and they still could have won the game, and the rope a dope strategy would have succeeded. amazing game the NFL. Edited October 20, 2020 by ProcessTruster 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Irv said: People a freaking out but, Mahomes spelled it out clearly. Bills were protecting deep and gave up the running and middle passing game. They took what we gave them and won. The plan didn't work. They're the Super Bowl Champions and probably could have burned us on long passing plays if we gave them that instead. Let's win the division and figure out how to beat some of these better teams without firing the whole coaching staff and burning down the stadium. Milano would have helped. We'll see Tennessee or KC again. No doubt. We'll learn and we'll be ready. Is their any doubt that FRAZIER is deathly afraid of the lower percentage deep ball that he neglects all the other ways a team can beat you?.....we would be better suited to play the run and short to intermediate field and be prone to getting beat once in awhile deep than gashed all game on long 17 play drives killing your defense and demoralizing your offense 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, DollaBills said: Yea people have the same attitude towards Tre too, and he has been very quiet recently Quiet is good for a DB. Hill had 20 yards receiving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Play straight up and give up a few either way. They must’ve averaged 7+ yards a carry with four backup linemen. The Bills defense is dreadful. Stop trying to find a positive. There isn’t one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollaBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Tortured Soul said: Quiet is good for a DB. Hill had 20 yards receiving. My thoughts too I just would like to see turnovers and such from the secondary(remember when we were like top 3 passing defense?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Irv said: People a freaking out but, Mahomes spelled it out clearly. Bills were protecting deep and gave up the running and middle passing game. They took what we gave them and won. The plan didn't work. They're the Super Bowl Champions and probably could have burned us on long passing plays if we gave them that instead. Let's win the division and figure out how to beat some of these better teams without firing the whole coaching staff and burning down the stadium. Milano would have helped. We'll see Tennessee or KC again. No doubt. We'll learn and we'll be ready. No doubt we will meet them again in January. Without different players, the results will be the same. 8 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: People putting a lot of eggs in the Milano basket. Correct. We weren’t a good defense with him earlier either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: People putting a lot of eggs in the Milano basket. And that basket is often broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Irv said: People a freaking out but, Mahomes spelled it out clearly. Bills were protecting deep and gave up the running and middle passing game. They took what we gave them and won. The plan didn't work. They're the Super Bowl Champions and probably could have burned us on long passing plays if we gave them that instead. Let's win the division and figure out how to beat some of these better teams without firing the whole coaching staff and burning down the stadium. Milano would have helped. We'll see Tennessee or KC again. No doubt. We'll learn and we'll be ready. Yes. The Titans and Chief did the same thing to us. Only difference is that our OL cannot run block and Josh lacked patience and accuracy to take the short stuff consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 With everything still came down to stupid plays or near misses; the missed strip, the bad Tre and Poyer late hits, the terrible series where we could not convert a 3rd down ( on the rescinded off setting) .....came close in a gut check game. Gut check season. Bills are decent...we need to cowboy up and get ready for Jests, boys....still love this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Of course the Bills played a classic cover 2 and wouldn’t give up deep shots the thing is Andy adjusted and ran it..their online beat the Bills Dline...Bills need to have some kind of running game to control the line a scrimmage since they really don’t have one Moss was slow and invisible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollaBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: He got his money tho. He never struck me as one of "those" guys, until now. His goalie academy shtick is no longer funny to me. Like the other poster said though. No news is usually good news on the CB front. Hill was quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Irv said: People a freaking out but, Mahomes spelled it out clearly. Bills were protecting deep and gave up the running and middle passing game. They took what we gave them and won. The plan didn't work. They're the Super Bowl Champions and probably could have burned us on long passing plays if we gave them that instead. Let's win the division and figure out how to beat some of these better teams without firing the whole coaching staff and burning down the stadium. Milano would have helped. We'll see Tennessee or KC again. No doubt. We'll learn and we'll be ready. exactly. I said this in another thread, but this D isn’t good enough to stop everyone doing everything. They have to game plan to take away the O’s best thing, and then hope that works. That’s what they did against the raiders, titans, and chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: People putting a lot of eggs in the Milano basket. Milano is our best LB by a laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge gap. It's not close. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, stevestojan said: So, in other words, we were ***** either way? Yes we were stevetojaned either way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, Irv said: People a freaking out but, Mahomes spelled it out clearly. Bills were protecting deep and gave up the running and middle passing game. They took what we gave them and won. The plan didn't work. They're the Super Bowl Champions and probably could have burned us on long passing plays if we gave them that instead. Let's win the division and figure out how to beat some of these better teams without firing the whole coaching staff and burning down the stadium. Milano would have helped. We'll see Tennessee or KC again. No doubt. We'll learn and we'll be ready. The plan actually DID work, pretty decently. You don't often hold the cheifs to under 30. You have to score to win vs them. We knew that coming in. And now that we didn't, we blame the D. They dpon't get a free pass, and I want to mostly blame the lack in diversifying the scheme, but there were plays to be made on offense and they weren't. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Milano is our best LB by a laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge gap. It's not close. That is true. But he’s not a great run stopper. Milano or not, they still get crushed today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: That is true. But he’s not a great run stopper. Milano or not, they still get crushed today Maybe maybe not. A few decent tackles and stops, who knows? The defense did us no favors today. Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 How about the bills stop over thinking it and just play defense. Stop trying to shut this or that down and just make plays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) With a tough schedule, this D, and the lack of a running game (needed in buffalo late season).... They will finish 8-8. Hope i'm wrong and they can fix it somehow but the D line and LB's are complete garbage. Every team will run it down our throat. Edited October 20, 2020 by Azucho98 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 We were one 3rd and 14 away from having the ball back with 4 minutes left and needing a td to take the lead which I firmly believe we would’ve done. Almost worked. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Protecting against getting beat deep and getting run over are not the same thing. One is a reasonable strategy. The other is getting beat because they are small and soft in the front 7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 “They took away the deep ball so we just slowly penetrated them late instead” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Bangarang said: “They took away the deep ball so we just slowly penetrated them late instead” So we just rushed for 250 yards lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: We were one 3rd and 14 away from having the ball back with 4 minutes left and needing a td to take the lead which I firmly believe we would’ve done. Almost worked. If you think the gap between these 2 teams is a single play, you need to watch more carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, mattynh said: And that basket is often broken. The best ability is availability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: The plan actually DID work, pretty decently. You don't often hold the cheifs to under 30. You have to score to win vs them. We knew that coming in. And now that we didn't, we blame the D. They dpon't get a free pass, and I want to mostly blame the lack in diversifying the scheme, but there were plays to be made on offense and they weren't. If the offense had scored like the "2020 normal", it was indeed a sound game plan. Besides his run that was almost a 1st down, Mahomes looked like a star QB to you? Weird that a game with two such exciting QBs was average in the entertaining factor. Run D is horrible, and has been all season. Rin O is very suspect too. What was worrisome is that usually Josh had all day to throw and today he was hurried all the time. But the offense can play better, and no doubt it will. For some reason, Josh has lost his inner mojo the last two games. I mean his demeanor isn't the same. It seems more mental outlook than anything else. That offense needs to score as the D is getting scorched.. Edited October 20, 2020 by Jerome007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, Tortured Soul said: Quiet is good for a DB. Hill had 20 yards receiving. So what? Mahomes only had to attempt 26 passes (21 completed) to beat that D. They were just running all night, at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, FireChans said: Milano is our best LB by a laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge gap. It's not close. Point is he alone won’t fix what ails this D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Milano May be our best lb buts he’s hurt every other game. He will come back then be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, Billever76 said: Is their any doubt that FRAZIER is deathly afraid of the lower percentage deep ball that he neglects all the other ways a team can beat you?.....we would be better suited to play the run and short to intermediate field and be prone to getting beat once in awhile deep than gashed all game on long 17 play drives killing your defense and demoralizing your offense I hate the way Frazier calls a game. HATE IT!!. He plays safe in the dumbest ways possible. He’s soft when he thinks he’s hard. I see why the Vikings didn’t work out back then. He plays not to lose a game and McDermott always says he plays to win. But our offense and defense I feel especially once we have a lead play not to lose. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Don’t be fooled, the Chiefs could do whatever they wanted against this pathetic Bills D. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: So what? Mahomes only had to attempt 26 passes (21 completed) to beat that D. They were just running all night, at will. That run D is horrible but overall the defensive gameplan worked... if the O had done its part. If the run D is only a question of players and not of schemes and coaches, the Bills will be bled all year long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 So the Bills lost by a 1000 paper cuts instead of a samurai sword. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: If you think the gap between these 2 teams is a single play, you need to watch more carefully. It’s an unpopular opinion but the game plan almost worked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: The plan actually DID work, pretty decently. You don't often hold the cheifs to under 30. You have to score to win vs them. We knew that coming in. And now that we didn't, we blame the D. They dpon't get a free pass, and I want to mostly blame the lack in diversifying the scheme, but there were plays to be made on offense and they weren't. It’s a 60 minute game. If you hold the opponent to a shade under 30, but they have the ball 2/3rds of the game, is that really “success”? All that means is that our offense only has like 6 or 7 drives to score more than 26. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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