Penfield45 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Who brought in the better talent here? For all the hate Whaley got he brought in some quality players. He got screwed with the QB position. Beanes track record in FA is terrible and his draft picks look like question marks everywhere. Ed Oliver and Edmunds ...Front 7 signings... And has anyone noticed our terrible contracts on defense? Trent Murphy is one of the highest paid players on this team. Edited October 20, 2020 by Penfield45 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Should I report this post? 3 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I’ll say Whaley was a better pro personnel guy and Beane a better drafter. Beane’s misses in the draft haven’t been total busts/liabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: Who brought in the better talent here? For all the hate Whaley got he brought in some quality players. He got screwed with the QB position. Beanes track record in FA is terrible and his draft picks look like question marks everywhere. Ed Oliver and Edmunds ...Front 7 signings... And has anyone noticed our terrible contracts on defense? Trent Murphy is one of the highest paid players on this team. How many times did the Bills make the playoffs under Whaley? End of discussion. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Should I report this post? Nah...let it be fun I so enjoy these threads. Greggo vs MCD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Nah...let it be fun I so enjoy these threads. Greggo vs MCD? Ok I’ll play. Rex was the best coach this team ever had(except Jaron) prove me wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The only period of his Bills career when Whaley was not the dumbest guy in the room was when Buddy Nix was still in the room. A total moron. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollaBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: Who brought in the better talent here? For all the hate Whaley got he brought in some quality players. He got screwed with the QB position. Beanes track record in FA is terrible and his draft picks look like question marks everywhere. Ed Oliver and Edmunds ...Front 7 signings... And has anyone noticed our terrible contracts on defense? Trent Murphy is one of the highest paid players on this team. There is no way people are coming for Beane now. Beane has given Allen everything he needs to succeed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Ok I’ll play. Rex was the best coach this team ever had(except Jaron) prove me wrong... Jauron did say it was tough to win in the NFL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Oh my good god there's a reason why none of Whaley's picks are on any teams anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Stop embarrassing yourself Beane is GM of an AFCE leading team and Whaley plays fantasy professionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Oh my good god there's a reason why none of Whaley's picks are on any teams anymore LOL.whaley himself isn't on a team anymore.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Doug Whaley was hot garbage as GM in the NFL. Might explain why he's now in "another line of work." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, DollaBills said: There is no way people are coming for Beane now. Beane has given Allen everything he needs to succeed His offensive pick ups, outside of Ford who is awful, have been pretty good. Diggs obviously is the type of steal that the Vikings give up every few years. The WR corps is stacked. The defense is awful in all areas. It looked like we had 4 DEs at the line today with how undersized they are. The depth is awful. It's really the same as before, but this time the offense has all the good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Oh my good god there's a reason why none of Whaley's picks are on any teams anymore Come on man, They gave up 2 first round picks for Sammy Watkins who’s now a 3rd receiver who is doing average. Brilliant pick by Whaley.. Haha jk, you’re absolutely right 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 44 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: Who brought in the better talent here? For all the hate Whaley got he brought in some quality players. He got screwed with the QB position. Beanes track record in FA is terrible and his draft picks look like question marks everywhere. Ed Oliver and Edmunds ...Front 7 signings... And has anyone noticed our terrible contracts on defense? Trent Murphy is one of the highest paid players on this team. And there it is. The only spot that really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Should I report this post? Yes this is a bull#### post. I guess most of these guys would want Rex, Marrone and Whaley back lmao. I commend McD and Beane for the job they’ve done by turning this franchise around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Bring back Rex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Whaley drafted EJ Manuel with 16th pick and traded up to draft Sammy Watkins over guys like Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald, OBJ. Need not go any further. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: Who brought in the better talent here? For all the hate Whaley got he brought in some quality players. He got screwed with the QB position. Beanes track record in FA is terrible and his draft picks look like question marks everywhere. Ed Oliver and Edmunds ...Front 7 signings... And has anyone noticed our terrible contracts on defense? Trent Murphy is one of the highest paid players on this team. Whaley coasted on Nix's picks. Prime Dareus and Gilmore were better players than literally anyone Whaley ever drafted. DOUG WHALEY NEVER DRAFTED A SINGLE PRO BOWLER IN 4 YEARS AS A GM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Whaleys 2016 draft... I rest my case.. 1-19: Shaq Lawson, ER, Clemson. ... 2-41: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama. ... 3-80: Adolphus Washington, DL, Ohio State. ... 4-139: Cardale Jones, QB, Ohio State. ... 5-156: Jonathan Williams, RB, Arkansas. ... 6-192: Kolby Listenbee, WR, TCU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 51 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: Who brought in the better talent here? For all the hate Whaley got he brought in some quality players. He got screwed with the QB position. Beanes track record in FA is terrible and his draft picks look like question marks everywhere. Ed Oliver and Edmunds ...Front 7 signings... And has anyone noticed our terrible contracts on defense? Trent Murphy is one of the highest paid players on this team. Murphy is the 9th highest paid player on the team. We’d have saved $8M by cutting him and probably would’ve spent at least that on a comparable replacement. Addison is getting $10.15M per season by comparison. Honestly I’m wondering how much of our issues are scheme and how much is personnel. For what we are collectively paying this defense we are getting crap in return. $51.2M tied up in the DL this season per Spotrac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 This is a fair question. I cringe at the thought of Beane running another offseason. He had almost $90 mill and we are worse off. I really don't want him running any more drafts. He's had hits and misses like any GM, but the misses are really piling up a lot faster than the hits -- especially in the top 2 rounds on draft weekend. Our DL has been absolutely horrible so far. Even Josh was so bad that no one besides the biggest Bills homers will refer to him as an MVP candidate any more. What potential GM candidates are out there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Penfield45 said: Who brought in the better talent here? For all the hate Whaley got he brought in some quality players. He got screwed with the QB position. Beanes track record in FA is terrible and his draft picks look like question marks everywhere. Ed Oliver and Edmunds ...Front 7 signings... And has anyone noticed our terrible contracts on defense? Trent Murphy is one of the highest paid players on this team. That's because until White's contract kicks in we really don't have any expensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Should I report this post? I don't know I can't see it he's on my ignore list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: Whaleys 2016 draft... I rest my case.. 1-19: Shaq Lawson, ER, Clemson. ... 2-41: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama. ... 3-80: Adolphus Washington, DL, Ohio State. ... 4-139: Cardale Jones, QB, Ohio State. ... 5-156: Jonathan Williams, RB, Arkansas. ... 6-192: Kolby Listenbee, WR, TCU I wish we could have resigned Shaq but other than that. Diggs cost a hell of a lot less than Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: Whaleys 2016 draft... I rest my case.. 1-19: Shaq Lawson, ER, Clemson. ... 2-41: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama. ... 3-80: Adolphus Washington, DL, Ohio State. ... 4-139: Cardale Jones, QB, Ohio State. ... 5-156: Jonathan Williams, RB, Arkansas. ... 6-192: Kolby Listenbee, WR, TCU Lol I forgot Adolphus Washington was once a thing. Dear God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Oh my good god there's a reason why none of Whaley's picks are on any teams anymore Oh my good God. Whaley has plenty of guys still in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, formerlyofCtown said: Oh my good God. Whaley has plenty of guys still in the NFL. Robert Woods is a beast. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Robert Woods is a beast. That's about it. You didn't say Star's, you said not in the NFL. Edited October 20, 2020 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, formerlyofCtown said: You didn't say Star's, you said not in the NFL. Ok, so there are a few left. He still was a terrible GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Ok, so there are a few left. He still was a terrible GM. Agreed. He should have stayed a scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Robert Woods is a beast. That's about it. Drafted by Buddy Nix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Whaley is the Peter Principle. He rose to his level of incompetence. Evaluating pro personnel was where he should of stayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) I think there is still a clear overreaction here. Sure, we have some issues defensively but we have built a solid defense the first 3 years under his watch and the offense even got better. We have to fix things but in his defense, most teams have had a down year defensively. I'm not sure if it was the change in offseason activities and no pre season but I feel like we are a talented team, we're just off right now. I have seen enough over Beane's 4 years here to tell me what him and McDermott has built is good. A whole bunch of players don't go from 3 solid seasons to all of a sudden being really bad at football in one year. Something is off but it's not lack of talent Edited October 20, 2020 by Buffalo03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I think there is still a clear overreaction here. Sure, we have some issues defensively but we have built a solid defense the past the first 3 years under his watch and the offense even got better. We have to fix things but to this team's defense, most teams have had down years defensively. I'm not sure if it was the change in offseason activities and no pre season but I feel like we are a talented team, we're just off right now. I have seen enough over Beane's 4 years here to tell me what him and McDermott has built is good. A whole bunch of players don't go from 3 solid seasons to all of a sudden being really bad at football in one year. Something is off but it's not lack of talent We missed the payoffs for 17 straight seasons. Now, it looks like we will make it 3 of 4 seasons during a rebuild. This is not even a serious question. The overreaction after a loss is laughable. OK, two in a row, to the two teams in the AFC Championship game last year. There will be terrible losses. That’s the NFL. We just got beat by better teams and learned what we need to work on. Let’s get on doing that. . Edited October 20, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Augie said: We missed the payoffs for 17 straight seasons. Now, it looks like we will make it 3 of 4 seasons during a rebuild. This is not even a serious question. Yeah, don't get me wrong, the defense has been awful this year but it's been bad all around the league. Like last year I remember Harrison Phillips was playing at a high level before his injury and got beyter from year one to year 2 and now he is getting benched. They're just off right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Watkins was on the drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, Motor26 said: Lol I forgot Adolphus Washington was once a thing. Dear God. The Meat Tenderizer did not last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 If memory serves, I believe most posters here defended Whaley to the bitter end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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