fishgrappler Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I am not sure how some of you can go from one extreme to another week to week. Last week “ Josh Norman is what we needed on this defense”.... then “he should have retired at halftime.” McDermott is a top 3 coach, then I read some knucklehead posting that he sucks. Highlighting how he has so many large masking losses. Others saying the same about Frazier. They played terrible, lost one game, had a bad night. Let things play out. Some frustrated Bills fans sounds like complete irrational idiotic morons that probably have never been nothing other than a fan in sports. Not a coach or athlete. I’m embarrassed that some of you can turn so fast. Have some resiliency and stop being mental midgets. Show some support.... Go Bills!!!! 10 1 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, fishgrappler said: I am not sure how some of you can go from one extreme to another week to week. Last week “ Josh Norman is what we needed on this defense”.... then “he should have retired at halftime.” McDermott is a top 3 coach, then I read some knucklehead posting that he sucks. Highlighting how he has so many large masking losses. Others saying the same about Frazier. They played terrible, lost one game, had a bad night. Let things play out. Some frustrated Bills fans sounds like complete irrational idiotic morons that probably have never been nothing other than a fan in sports. Not a coach or athlete. I’m embarrassed that some of you can turn so fast. Have some resiliency and stop being mental midgets. Show some support.... Go Bills!!!! I never liked the Norman signing, I think he is washed. However, I wont kill him here because everyone knows AT BEST at this point in his career he is a serviceable CB2. He is in NO WAY a CB that can follow and man up a teams NO1 WR. Edited October 14, 2020 by MAJBobby 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Umm... welcome to TBD? You cant help them. Youll just drive youself crazy. Just take solace in the fact they are wrong and stick out like sore thumbs. This is what you get when the team shut their boards down. Now you just kinda have to deal. It is what it is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Fact is, Norman isn't a #1 CB and he was asked to play that role last night. He got eaten alive which, if you have followed his career, is probably what should have been expected. But, just because he is not a #1, doesn't mean he doesn't have a place on this team. AJ Brown is a tough match up for anyone. But, if Tre had been able to go last night, he would have shadowed Brown and Norman would have gotten an easier assignment and probably would have fared much better. It's all about putting players in the right spots to succeed. Norman isn't a #1 CB, but he is one of the 3 best CBs on this team. We have yet to have all of our CBs on the field healthy at 1 time. Once Levi comes back and Tre is healthy, let's slot them where they belong and see what happens then. Way too early to say Norman can't help this team. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Haha yep. Now, if we lose big next week also, then... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Game Day threads are nauseating to read. There's countless Bills fans that seem to need to spill bile whenever there is a bad play or a bad game. It's probably a defense mechanism against gets their hopes dashed, if they trash the team their fragile ego won't be crushed if the Bills don't live up to expectations. I wish there was a Big Boy thread on game day where you were only allowed to post on football, and all other emotional outpourings get moved to a "Dr. Phil gives Bills fans trauma advice" thread. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Weather is fair today so I'm a fair weather fan, tomorrow windy and rain I'll be a bad weather fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Sometimes teams just get steamrolled. Happens to the very best. Happened to the 90’s Bills all the time. But if the overreactions are a big deal for you you may want to stay away for a couple weeks. I dont expect thing to get better Monday. Edited October 14, 2020 by Bobby Hooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: I am not sure how some of you can go from one extreme to another week to week. Last week “ Josh Norman is what we needed on this defense”.... then “he should have retired at halftime.” McDermott is a top 3 coach, then I read some knucklehead posting that he sucks. Highlighting how he has so many large masking losses. Others saying the same about Frazier. They played terrible, lost one game, had a bad night. Let things play out. Some frustrated Bills fans sounds like complete irrational idiotic morons that probably have never been nothing other than a fan in sports. Not a coach or athlete. I’m embarrassed that some of you can turn so fast. Have some resiliency and stop being mental midgets. Show some support.... Go Bills!!!! I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'fair weather fans' I don't think I fit into a lot of what you are saying...yet I actually admit at times to being a fair-weather fan. When the team is really good, I watch. If a game is going sideways really quickly, I'll often start to look for something else to watch. In the past at the end of the year when they Bills were out of the playoffs and playing out the final few games, I might watch..or I might watch a different game with playoff implications. By that definition, I am a fair weather fan, and I'm fine with it. However, I do not flip-flop on players that quickly, or my opinion of the coach. I think you might have individual fans confused with fans as a group. It probably isn't a lot of the same people saying a player is great one week and then a bum the next week. On a week where a player does well, you get a ton of praise from people who already like that player..and people who don't like him are quiet. However, that player has a bad week and the ones who like him are quiet...while the ones who don't like him speak up. It isn't individual 'fair weather fans' at all.....it is the circumstance of each individual game that allows for certain people to pick the opportunity to best speak up and voice their opinion..which really doesn't change for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It’s cathartic to complain for some. I support Beane and McDermott but they make mistakes. We all do. We just don’t have millions of people watching our business decisions and commenting on them. The CB2 situation is feeling a little like the QB situation heading into 2018. McDermott sold Beane on the fact he could get by with what he had at CB and LB. I suspect CB and and LB will be addressed early in the draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 That's the nature of these boards. It's Superbowl time when we win a game, and tear it all down and rebuild when we lose a game. Just have to ignore it and move forward. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Guess what t-shirt and ball cap i am still wearing today? Yeah, last night sucked, but I will still bere cheering on Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Welcome to the world of sports fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: I am not sure how some of you can go from one extreme to another week to week. Last week “ Josh Norman is what we needed on this defense”.... then “he should have retired at halftime.” McDermott is a top 3 coach, then I read some knucklehead posting that he sucks. Highlighting how he has so many large masking losses. Others saying the same about Frazier. They played terrible, lost one game, had a bad night. Let things play out. Some frustrated Bills fans sounds like complete irrational idiotic morons that probably have never been nothing other than a fan in sports. Not a coach or athlete. I’m embarrassed that some of you can turn so fast. Have some resiliency and stop being mental midgets. Show some support.... Go Bills!!!! This is a grade a sh*t post. We’re allowed to voice our concerns. It doesn’t mean we’re fair weather fans. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 We played horribly bud. You don't think the coaches are going to tear these guys a new one this week? Players aren't just as upset? Athletes and fans are competitors. It ain't the end of the world but it's a wake up call. And it's concerning for sure. It's a whole nother thing to write off the season bit I haven't seen that just yet for the most part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Here is my fair and balanced post: Anti-Bills: They lack depth and miss their injured players. John Brown makes a lot of great plays for the offense and draws coverage away from other guys. The defense is not the same without its 2 starting CBs and its (arguably) best LB. This year's defense, even with a full lineup, is not very good. They are thin at LB and CB, the D-line misses Star as a run-stuffer/blocker occupier and the pass rush is not getting to the QB. The Bills don't have much of a run game this year. It seems to be a combination of the line not effectively opening up holes and the RBs being small and lacking power and burst. (Maybe Yeldon can help - he was effective last night.) The Bills played a terrible game in all phases last night - they laid an egg. The coaching staff did not have them ready. I get the sense they were overlooking the Titans, who were a mess due to the COVID thing, and were looking ahead to the Chiefs. Pro-Bills: The Titans are a really good team. They were in the AFC Championship game last year for a reason. They throttled Baltimore in the playoffs. A team can lose to them without necessarily being a bad team. Most teams have a couple of bad games during the season. The Super Bowl Bills teams certainly did, the Super Bowl Patriots have too. The Bills are 4-1 and in first place at the quarter pole. Nothing to complain about. Other than the Jests, the Bills have beaten some good teams. The Dolphins aren't Super Bowl contenders, but are a solid, middle-of-the-pack competitive team. The Raiders and Rams are among the better teams in the league, evidenced by the Raiders beating KC last week and the Rams beating everyone other than the Bills. The Bills have a lot of talented players, including a franchise QB. They can use last night's game as a wakeup call and get back on track. The world is not ending and nobody needs to be fired or have their extension rescinded. As mentioned above, the Bills played a terrible game last night and got blown out by a good team that was more ready to play, but they are 4-1 and in first place. There is plenty of time for the injured guys to return and for the coaching staff to get them back on track. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: I am not sure how some of you can go from one extreme to another week to week. Last week “ Josh Norman is what we needed on this defense”.... then “he should have retired at halftime.” McDermott is a top 3 coach, then I read some knucklehead posting that he sucks. Highlighting how he has so many large masking losses. Others saying the same about Frazier. They played terrible, lost one game, had a bad night. Let things play out. Some frustrated Bills fans sounds like complete irrational idiotic morons that probably have never been nothing other than a fan in sports. Not a coach or athlete. I’m embarrassed that some of you can turn so fast. Have some resiliency and stop being mental midgets. Show some support.... Go Bills!!!! Like it or not expectations have been raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Fans complaining or getting upset because of a horrendous game isnt being a fair weather fan. If anything it just shows their upset because they care about the team. Fair weather fans are the people who only care when they win and the moment things swing they are no where to be found. Now we certainly have a lot of emotional eccentric fans who the attitudes swing week by week, but that is ok and given the drought years and trauma from that I get it. I have freely admitted when I have been wrong i.e Rosen over Allen, the Bills getting Diggs, I am sure I will be wrong about wanting Frazier fired to shake things up and reframe the defense. But that is part of being a fan and I will at least credit the people who are pissed even ifs it irrational for giving a crap then those who won't even be found or only care to be around when things are good. I am trying my best to keep in mind Allen has looked really good and even though last night he wasn't as good, he is a huge bright spot and can get the team to the playoffs. The defense scares me because its gotten to a point if the offense makes mistake against a quality opponent like the Titans or even the Rams shouldn't have been INT, we have very little rope to give. This years schedule offers very little room for mistake if you want a good seed for the playoffs and division title. Heck even the playoffs are very competitive with the Browns, Colts, Raiders, and even Chargers looking very competitive for the final spots. Nothing will come easy like last year and thats ok, I just hope that they give Allen and the offense the ability to be mortal at points without it costing us games. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: Some frustrated Bills fans sounds like complete irrational idiotic morons that probably have never been nothing other than a fan in sports. Not a coach or athlete. I think you might be @C.Biscuit97's soulmate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 By the way @Virgil I completely blame you for the loss because your prediction wasn't enough in the Titans favor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albanyfan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: I am not sure how some of you can go from one extreme to another week to week. Last week “ Josh Norman is what we needed on this defense”.... then “he should have retired at halftime.” McDermott is a top 3 coach, then I read some knucklehead posting that he sucks. Highlighting how he has so many large masking losses. Others saying the same about Frazier. They played terrible, lost one game, had a bad night. Let things play out. Some frustrated Bills fans sounds like complete irrational idiotic morons that probably have never been nothing other than a fan in sports. Not a coach or athlete. I’m embarrassed that some of you can turn so fast. Have some resiliency and stop being mental midgets. Show some support.... Go Bills!!!! So....a couple fans had one bad night...No need to get frustrated and call them irrational idiotic morons and mental midgets. I’m embarrassed that you can turn on fellow fans so fast. Have some resiliency and show some support. Go Bills fans!! Edited October 14, 2020 by albanyfan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze_21 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Sports fans rage when their team loses that's just how it is. Don't think bills fans can be fair weather when we have no playoff wins in 20 years. The game was fairly flukey and outside of the D continuing to suck I'm not too worried about it. If anything it solidifies allens progress in my eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) It's OK to be super happy one week..and then super angry/upset the next week. It's called being a fan (short for "fanatic"). People can still love the team and live for each Sunday AND be critical. . Anyone that realistically thought they were Super Bowl bound after 4-0 (with 3 fairly tight wins)...is a moron. Anyone that thinks Buffalo sucks and is a dumpster fire after this one loss is an idiot. Edited October 14, 2020 by zow2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Haze_21 said: Sports fans rage when their team loses that's just how it is. Don't think bills fans can be fair weather when we have no playoff wins in 20 years. Its fun to laugh at yourself for sports rage moments in the past when you look back. I was at the Bills Phins TNF game in 2014 and I was in sports rage after that loser of a game to the point I wanted Art Briles and Bryce Petty to come in the next year lol. fun times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The lengths some Bills fans will go to rationalize a loss, or pretty much any negative factor impacting the team, never cease to amaze me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think you might be @C.Biscuit97's soulmate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I'm being Chuck Woolery, here!! My intentions are good and sincere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Gugny said: I'm being Chuck Woolery, here!! My intentions are good and sincere! That ‘excuse’ is getting old, Rouser of rabble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, fishgrappler said: I am not sure how some of you can go from one extreme to another week to week. Last week “ Josh Norman is what we needed on this defense”.... then “he should have retired at halftime.” McDermott is a top 3 coach, then I read some knucklehead posting that he sucks. Highlighting how he has so many large masking losses. Others saying the same about Frazier. They played terrible, lost one game, had a bad night. Let things play out. Some frustrated Bills fans sounds like complete irrational idiotic morons that probably have never been nothing other than a fan in sports. Not a coach or athlete. I’m embarrassed that some of you can turn so fast. Have some resiliency and stop being mental midgets. Show some support.... Go Bills!!!! As predicted by others on this board the Josh Allen critics are coming back out. Can't believe they are really this stupid. Some believers were getting to cocky after just 4 games but these people after one not so great outing is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) I’m not sure how some of these things get connected. I’m ***** miserable today. I’m a grown up that still somehow acts like a complete baby every time the Bills lose. Is it ok? No. Is it normal? No. But is it how it is? Yes. I have so much time, money, emotion etc invested into this team. I’m not from buffalo. Nowhere near it actually. I have to put effort into watching this team. In person or on TV. But I never miss a snap. 13-3, I watch every play. 3-13, I watch every play. Do I complain? Constantly. Am i very critical of the team? Absolutely. Loving the team beyond belief is not thinking everything about the team is great. If you are spending time on a message board, you probably care. Considerably. There are lots of things in life that are significantly more important then the outcome of a football game. I’m mentally capable of understanding that. But if I’m being totally honest, this ***** matters a lot to me. Certainly way to much. I can admit that. I don’t see how being negative and upset has anything to do with being fairweather? You stick with a team through good and bad. That’s the deal. But can people be upset when it goes poorly? Of course Edited October 14, 2020 by Brianmoorman4jesus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 59 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: This is a grade a sh*t post. We’re allowed to voice our concerns. It doesn’t mean we’re fair weather fans. I don’t think anyone has issue with voicing concerns. It’s the extreme posters that tend to be the worst. Plenty of negatives to discuss from the beat down. Plenty of negatives to discuss with our D this year. But there’s no need for some to be so extreme about things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The board is utterly ridiculous right now...but thats also par for the course. Win streak, and everyone inside the Bills is god like. Lose one game, everyone needs to be fired and everyones a bust. Its like 95% useless dribble around here, but I come for the 5% of good football talk while being entertained by utterly stupid hot takes and clueless posts. Welcome to TSW, it tis a great place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 We have more to worry about than this loss. KC, Jets, NE, Seahawks. If we split these next four 6-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronthebaron Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 People are upset, passionate. If they’re like me, they need to vent and take a five day break from everything, then ready to go by the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Do The Reich Thing said: This is a grade a sh*t post. We’re allowed to voice our concerns. It doesn’t mean we’re fair weather fans. You loved this guy's posts last week. Way to flip flop! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: The board is utterly ridiculous right now...but thats also par for the course. Win streak, and everyone inside the Bills is god like. Lose one game, everyone needs to be fired and everyones a bust. Its like 95% useless dribble around here, but I come for the 5% of good football talk while being entertained by utterly stupid hot takes and clueless posts. Welcome to TSW, it tis a great place It’s because the trolls have been forced to stay under the bridge since August. They’re antsy and BY GOD, They’re gonna be HEARD! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: It’s because the trolls have been forced to stay under the bridge since August. They’re antsy and BY GOD, They’re gonna be HEARD! That’s not fair, most of us just want a competent team and actually win a super bowl one day. We are generally happy with this team, but criticism is perfectly fine when they play the way they do. This defense has shown cracks all year, and the offense had carried them every week. This defense lacks elite talent outside of our DBs. The front 7 should be ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 oh, wait!🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: It’s because the trolls have been forced to stay under the bridge since August. They’re antsy and BY GOD, They’re gonna be HEARD! Yup, they have finally gotten their dark cloud to bask in. Funny, I had to leave a text chat with 2 other Bills fans at halftime last night. One of them never says a peep in this group chat the 3 of us are in when things are going well. Never an excited text when something big happens in a game for us. Just me basically talking to myself. BUT: He never shuts up with negativity when things are not going well. Its like he cant wait to spew negative diarrhea in the group chat. I call him out on it all the time and finally just left the group chat at halftime yesterday because just tired of his negative ranting all the time. I mean he barely spoke all season and all of a sudden yesterday he is back to just spewing negative nonsense from outset of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yup, they have finally gotten their dark cloud to bask in. Funny, I had to leave a text chat with 2 other Bills fans at halftime last night. One of them never says a peep in this group chat the 3 of us are in when things are going well. Never an excited text when something big happens in a game for us. Just me basically talking to myself. BUT: He never shuts up with negativity when things are not going well. Its like he cant wait to spew negative diarrhea in the group chat. I call him out on it all the time and finally just left the group chat at halftime yesterday because just tired of his negative ranting all the time. I mean he barely spoke all season and all of a sudden yesterday he is back to just spewing negative nonsense from outset of the game. I have a nephew (wife’s side) here in Jax. He was always welcome to Sunday dinner and watch the Bills. Key word: WAS. Same reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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