eball Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Holy hell, look at this comparison of Allen’s first 16 games vs. his last 16 (he has now played 32 as a pro): 1-16: 55%, 13 passing TDs, 18 INTs 17-32: 62%, 29 passing TDs, 4 INTs Stunning. 8 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 You know I think he might of gotten better. 3 12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) It's a combination of having to be the QB of the 2018 Bills a team with one of the worst O-lines & virtually no receivers. As a rookie his top 2 receivers were Zay Jones who I'm amazed is still getting playing time in Las Vegas & Robert Foster, who is now on GB's practice squad. The other part is the learning curve playing with new WRs, RBs & O-linemen to start his sophomore season. What's even more stunning is his play this year where he hasn't thrown any INTs but is tagged with one because of ref/replay incompetence. He has definitely grown up from the raw rookie who arrived in 2018, but the team around him that year hurt his "on paper" view. Edited October 13, 2020 by Albany,n.y. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Makes me wonder how good Herbert will be come game 32 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 40 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Makes me wonder how good Herbert will be come game 32 Teams are already figuring out Herbert. I really think some of yall have the attention span of that Dog from "UP." Plus, Herbert is surrounded by good Offensive players... 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Now do Baker! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Paulus said: Teams are already figuring out Herbert. I really think some of yall have the attention span of that Dog from "UP." Plus, Herbert is surrounded by good Offensive players... The dog from UP? This is a cultural reference some of y’all have in these parts? i missed that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Aussie, it’s from a movie, I think Pixar, mostly a family movie. You can google it. It’s a cute movie. My daughter liked it a few years ago. I’m the volunteer with my three kids to take them to the movies From when even when they were little so I’ve seen every Disney movie made for over 15 years. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, machine gun kelly said: Aussie, it’s from a movie, I think Pixar, mostly a family movie. You can google it. It’s a cute movie. My daughter liked it a few years ago. I’m the volunteer with my three kids to take them to the movies From when even when they were little so I’ve seen every Disney movie made for over 15 years. Hope that helps. Ok cool... I don’t have kids so I have missed that one .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 No worries mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Can’t wait to see the jump over the next 16 games 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Warcodered said: You know I think he might of gotten better. But, but, but, PFF 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Can’t wait to see the jump over the next 16 games If he can maintain anywhere near what he has done over the first 4 games I predict we will be very happy in February. Having said that I don’t expect the yards to stay on the present game average. Everything else could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Caption this picture 4 hours ago, Warcodered said: You know I think he might of gotten better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 hours ago, eball said: Holy hell, look at this comparison of Allen’s first 16 games vs. his last 16 (he has now played 32 as a pro): 1-16: 55%, 13 passing TDs, 18 INTs 17-32: 62%, 29 passing TDs, 3 INTs Stunning. FTFY 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI Bills Fan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Is the Tyler Kroft interception agains the Rams 1 of those 4 INTs? If so, i would wipe that off. 2 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: FTFY You beat me to it! Just. Edited October 13, 2020 by NI Bills Fan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 You should also add-in rushing TDs as well as fumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Warcodered said: You know I think he might of gotten better. Shows what you know accuracy can’t be improved once you make the NFL .. I read it on PFF so it must be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Makes me wonder how good Herbert will be come game 32 About as good as his acne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersN'Bills Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Don't forget the TD to John Brown last week that was taken from him. Then you get a cool 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc said: You should also add-in rushing TDs as well as fumbles. Not the point of the thread. Allen's rushing has been an asset from the get-go. This is about his play as a QUARTERBACK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Aussie, it’s from a movie, I think Pixar, mostly a family movie. You can google it. It’s a cute movie. My daughter liked it a few years ago. I’m the volunteer with my three kids to take them to the movies From when even when they were little so I’ve seen every Disney movie made for over 15 years. Hope that helps. Yeah, sure blame it on the kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, eball said: Not the point of the thread. Allen's rushing has been an asset from the get-go. This is about his play as a QUARTERBACK. Yes. So are the stats I mentioned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 hours ago, eball said: Holy hell, look at this comparison of Allen’s first 16 games vs. his last 16 (he has now played 32 as a pro): 1-16: 55%, 13 passing TDs, 18 INTs 17-32: 62%, 29 passing TDs, 4 INTs Stunning. Sal Capaccio wrote an article about just this thing https://www.radio.com/wgr550/sports/bills/allens-turnaround-is-unprecedented-in-nfl-history 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Slightly better, hoping he can take the next step. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Slightly better, hoping he can take the next step. Huh? Going off his last 4 games this year, if they’re any indication... he has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Huh? Going off his last 4 games this year, if they’re any indication... he has. Yeah, but if you project it out, he’s only on pace for 70% passing, 5,300 yards, 48TDs and 4ints, that’s hardly going to get it done. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 59 minutes ago, Doc said: Yes. So are the stats I mentioned. First 16: 762 yards; 11 TD's rushing and 4 fumbles lost Second 16: 462 yards; 9 TD's rushing and 5 fumbles lost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Yeah, but if you project it out, he’s only on pace for 70% passing, 5,300 yards, 48TDs and 4ints, that’s hardly going to get it done. Sarcasm alert! 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, eball said: Holy hell, look at this comparison of Allen’s first 16 games vs. his last 16 (he has now played 32 as a pro): 1-16: 55%, 13 passing TDs, 18 INTs 17-32: 62%, 29 passing TDs, 4 INTs Stunning. Now do Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, eball said: Holy hell, look at this comparison of Allen’s first 16 games vs. his last 16 (he has now played 32 as a pro): 1-16: 55%, 13 passing TDs, 18 INTs 17-32: 62%, 29 passing TDs, 4 INTs Stunning. And this is why everyone should be lol at pff... even more reason to ignore those frat boys who so desperately try to sound like adults 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Great post. I look at those numbers a lot myself. He's grown up in a really short time considering all the catching up he had to do anyway, let alone his offense being so terrible the first year. He said his game mindset is "I just want it, more than anything." His dedication to doing all the work it takes for him to get better speaks volumes about how much he really wants it. He really has that fire and it burns HOT! I can't believe I actually preferred Baker over Allen in that draft. I wouldn't trade Josh for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, ngbills said: First 16: 762 yards; 11 TD's rushing and 4 fumbles lost Second 16: 462 yards; 9 TD's rushing and 5 fumbles lost Thanks. Gotta take the good with the bad. And the good far outweighs the bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, ngbills said: First 16: 762 yards; 11 TD's rushing and 4 fumbles lost Second 16: 462 yards; 9 TD's rushing and 5 fumbles lost He was too busy throwing picks to fumble the ball so much the first 16 games. In all seriousness though, his rushing TD's are consistent even though he's having a ton more success throwing. Really a huge bonus with the potential he's finally showing now purely passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: It's a combination of having to be the QB of the 2018 Bills a team with one of the worst O-lines & virtually no receivers. As a rookie his top 2 receivers were Zay Jones who I'm amazed is still getting playing time in Las Vegas & Robert Foster, who is now on GB's practice squad. The other part is the learning curve playing with new WRs, RBs & O-linemen to start his sophomore season. What's even more stunning is his play this year where he hasn't thrown any INTs but is tagged with one because of ref/replay incompetence. He has definitely grown up from the raw rookie who arrived in 2018, but the team around him that year hurt his "on paper" view. While the folks around him in 2018 certainly didn't help, it was mostly him. He made far more poor decisions, was more inconsistent with accuracy and simply didn't know what he was looking at with defenses. Edited October 13, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Ok cool... I don’t have kids so I have missed that one .. You don't have to be a kid to enjoy "Up". Excellent movie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 hours ago, H2o said: But, but, but, PFF You mean the group that says he's gotten much much better? Yeah, what do they know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said: You mean the group that says he's gotten much much better? Yeah, what do they know? Only because they couldn't find a way to keep him from the top in their sham ranking system for the first time in 3 years after a game. Those guys are a bunch of 🤡's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Warcodered said: You know I think he might of gotten better. But...........we were told that can NOT happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Yeah, sure blame it on the kids Alright Captain, I loved it too. 😇. It was special memories and to Pixar’s credit, they made them kind of funny. Monsters Inc. was a good example. Another is Schreck. “You’re donkey talks, yeah it’s getting him to shut up that’s the trick.” Not unlike many think of me, resonates with some posters, again myself included. That’ll do Donkey, That’ll do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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