buffalonian Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Interesting from PFT on players not losing a game check in the case of a forfeit, "The NFL Players Association could, and should, argue that the players have not agreed to surrender game checks in the event of a forfeit. Indeed, the official rulebook contemplates the possibility of a forfeit, providing in Rule 11, Section 1, Article 1 that the final score of a forfeited game will be 2-0. In a normal year, no one ever would suggest that players shouldn’t be paid for a forfeited game. So why would they not be paid for a forfeit in 2020, especially when the agreement allowing the league to withhold pay for games “cancelled or suspended” does not expressly include forfeits, which necessarily are different from a cancellation or suspension, because a forfeited game goes into the standings with a winner and a loser?" https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/08/will-titans-be-forced-to-forfeit-their-week-five-game-against-the-bills/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: This is total Bull. The NFL has been fine - ONE TEAM did not follow protocol and specific directives. The only thing embarrassing to me is these constant takes. I hope you keep this opinion up when they decide to ***** the bills over and move our chiefs game to Saturday and titans game to Monday or Tuesday, basically giving us a massive disadvantage in both games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: what an absolute joke so the team that doesn’t have any players who broke protocol gets punished (Bills) Godell and the NFL can go ***** themselves. I hope the whole season gets voided and they lose all their money where do you live in penfield? i'd like to know so i can throw stuff at your house. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Source? Opinion of mine: The league needs to put on its Big Boy Panties, Cowboy Up and call it. I think that is an old report. Wasn’t there a report earlier in the week that that “could” happen. I hope that’s off the table at this point. The league needs to show some leadership at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: I guess the bright side is, if I can tether my laptop to my phone and use the data to get a stream going, it would be a good way to kill 3 hours of a 14 hour drive. “Bills Mafia, where diversity is key. We can crash tables, we can crash cars, we can do it all!” 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 If the cowboys were in the spot we are in the league would have forfeited the game yesterday and handed the cowboys a win and golden boy treatment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Hell yes make the Titans forfeit, and I'm willing to bet McDermott feels the same way. Why should he jeopardize his own players' safety, not because of the Titans, but the league's piss poor handling of all this? Giving a team like the Chiefs any kind of advantage because of Tennessee's carelessness would be a slap in the face of any team. Buffalo shouldn't have to be the ones paying any kind of price here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, buffalonian said: Indeed, the official rulebook contemplates the possibility of a forfeit, providing in Rule 11, Section 1, Article 1 that the final score of a forfeited game will be 2-0. Whatever benefits the defense at this point, I'm all for. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, teef said: where do you live in penfield? i'd like to know so i can throw stuff at your house. Don’t make his poor parents pay for his inequities. They already have to live with him in the basement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: I hope you keep this opinion up when they decide to ***** the bills over and move our chiefs game to Saturday and titans game to Monday or Tuesday, basically giving us a massive disadvantage in both games The Saturday thing has already been debunked. The NFL can not legally play games on a Saturday, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: It just looks like tough talk but no actual will to follow through. They keep bringing up the "F" word but I doubt they'll actually do it. I agree with you about the forfeit. That won't happen. They will go to win percentage which will be a very unfair thing, IMO, when you are talking about 15 to 16 games. That's way too significant compared to baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, teef said: where do you live in penfield? i'd like to know so i can throw stuff at your house. Probably start looking for a bridge, or low-lying gully... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Penfield45 said: If the cowboys were in the spot we are in the league would have forfeited the game yesterday and handed the cowboys a win and golden boy treatment Oh, well, that goes without saying. Or the Pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Just give the Titans a loss and do nothing with the bills. As much as I am against getting a cheesy forfeit win - giving us nothing or no game played could hurt us too. For example a 12-4 team vs. an 11-4 team for seeding issues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Penfield45 said: I hope you keep this opinion up when they decide to ***** the bills over and move our chiefs game to Saturday and titans game to Monday or Tuesday, basically giving us a massive disadvantage in both games Why would give this give the Bills a disadvantage in these games? We'd be playing a decimated Titans squad that's barely had a chance to practice, and KC plays this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: “Bills Mafia, where diversity is key. We can crash tables, we can crash cars, we can do it all!” Most of that portion of the trip would be through Ohio, so it doesnt really matter if I take anything out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think the most prudent thing would be to scrap the game right now. Call it a postponed indefinitely. If you have more situations like this down the line and have to add a week 18, put it there. If not, and if it can be proved that the Titans negligence caused this, have it be a forfeit. At an absolute minimum, yes. As I said, I think there is only one principle that is driving this: the NFL wants its money. I think the NFL should cancel games and impose forfeits, but at a minimum, at least flat out postpone and deal with the consequences later. Pats-Chiefs was a good example. No way the NFL wanted to give up the revenue from that game, so they moved it. It seems like it worked out, but we won't know for another few days whether playing caused a Chiefs outbreak. NFL already has Titans-Steelers revenue at risk, and Bills-Titans turns out to be another pretty good TV draw, so the NFL doesn't want to postpone it indefinitely and maybe lose it. It's all about the dollars, despite the good-face the NFL tries to put on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Most of that portion of the trip would be through Ohio, so it doesnt really matter if I take anything out. Just don’t kill @YoloinOhio- we need that beloved bot and it’s sources of information in this difficult time... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Most of that portion of the trip would be through Ohio, so it doesnt really matter if I take anything out. Hey now, I can see I-71 from my place. You stay out of my backyard and keep your eyes on the road. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Apparently if it's a forfeit win, Bills players don't get paid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: Don’t make his poor parents pay for his inequities. They already have to live with him in the basement. no. i think they need to learn a lesson too. they created it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: The Saturday thing has already been debunked. The NFL can not legally play games on a Saturday, Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Most of that portion of the trip would be through Ohio, so it doesnt really matter if I take anything out. Back in June I drove up from Austin back to Buffalo. Arkansas and Ohio were rough, boring drives. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Dianna Russini on ESPN said titans and bills players are told they might play the game monday or tuesday (IF THE POSITIVE TESTS DISSAPEAR IN THE NEXT TWO DAYS), in which case the Bills/Chiefs game gets moved to Saturday night (NFL wants it on a non football day to generate revenue for themselves and FOX) I called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Really? However, the law is more famous for helping to set the NFL broadcasting schedule. To protect fans of college and high school football, Congress also approved language that barred professional games on Fridays and Saturdays during the schools' seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: Back in June I drove up from Austin back to Buffalo. Arkansas and Ohio were rough, boring drives. One time driving to Jackson Hole I fell asleep entering Kansas and woke up in Nebraska. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkwwjd Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: Hey now, I can see I-71 from my place. You stay out of my backyard and keep your eyes on the road. Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Really? I'll post it again, since this is such a big thread and you'll never find it any other way... Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961, which exempts the NFL from antitrust laws for its broadcasting rights. The act prohibits NFL broadcasts on Friday nights and on Saturdays "beginning on the second Friday in September and ending on the second Saturday in December." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Really? The NFL has some kind of deal with the NCAA not to play on Saturday, at least until the NCAA regular season games. I don't know if they have a written contract to that effect - maybe it's just a gentleman's agreement. It's also why there isn't Friday night NFL football - the league does it to protect high school football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: The Saturday thing has already been debunked. The NFL can not legally play games on a Saturday, That has to be malarkey. Under a regular season? Maybe. Under a Covid-19 season? All options are on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: The Saturday thing has already been debunked. The NFL can not legally play games on a Saturday, Nonsense. They do every year after the colleges finish conference games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Really? Yes, as mentioned by @Forward Progress The sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 effectively outlaws NFL games on Friday or Saturday. " It also, in effect, protects high school football and college football game attendance by blacking out pro football games locally on Friday evenings and Saturdays during those sports' regular seasons; these measures effectively outlawed the broadcasting (and, in practice, the playing) of NFL games on those days, since virtually all of the country is within 75 miles (120 km) of at least one high school game on every Friday night in September and October." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Broadcasting_Act_of_1961 https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title15/chapter32&edition=prelim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Really? https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/broadcast-games-saturdays-nfl-permission-us-government-big-ten.html An anti-trust law was passed in 1961 which outlaws the NFL from broadcasting on friday-saturday night so that high school and college can show their games. The NFL COULD, and would likely be granted, seek a waiver/permission to work around that rule due to COVID. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Apparently if it's a forfeit win, Bills players don't get paid... But it's also been said the Titans could end up paying the Bills(no pun intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Back in June I drove up from Austin back to Buffalo. Arkansas and Ohio were rough, boring drives. Ive made this Atlanta-Buffalo trip too many times, and Ohio is the worst part. Just sooo long, and the worst drivers of the 6 states. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Forward Progress said: The NFL isn't allowed to play games on Saturday's in accordance with the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961, which exempts the NFL from antitrust laws for its broadcasting rights. The act prohibits NFL broadcasts on Friday nights and on Saturdays beginning on the second Friday in September and ending on the second Saturday in December. That both incredibly useful and oddly specific information to have. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Forward Progress said: I'll post it again, since this is such a big thread and you'll never find it any other way... Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961, which exempts the NFL from antitrust laws for its broadcasting rights. The act prohibits NFL broadcasts on Friday nights and on Saturdays "beginning on the second Friday in September and ending on the second Saturday in December." Wow. Thanks for this. I didn't know it was an actual law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 At this point it's really silly they haven't announced postponement of the game Sunday. The NFL must be waiting to announce it until they have decided upon the penalties, but in fairness to both teams (particularly the Bills) they need to let them know so preparations can shift to KC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Forward Progress said: I'll post it again, since this is such a big thread and you'll never find it any other way... Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961, which exempts the NFL from antitrust laws for its broadcasting rights. The act prohibits NFL broadcasts on Friday nights and on Saturdays "beginning on the second Friday in September and ending on the second Saturday in December." I still see it happening Saturday. There are always ways around things like this. NFL very well may have to pay out to the NCAA for the rights to air one game. But that would be money well spent if it means keeping the schedule in tact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: And what happens when the Bills finish 13-2 and the Ravens or Chiefs finish 14-2, costing the Bills a bye? It can’t work like that. It can. It goes by win pct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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