Mango Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Their ability to play in 3 days is irrelevant. Their ability to put out a roster that does not infect their opponent should be the top concern. From the sounds of it, sounds like it is also McD’s. The Titans could derail the league by playing this week. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, scribo said: The CBL says the players need the opportunity to practice for two days before a game. Not sure if there is a way around that. Apparently there is. Pats are doing it, at least as of now. 4 minutes ago, scribo said: I disagree with Oct. 1. Right in the beginning of Vrabel's Oct. 1 press conference, he says he just "reminded" the team to "not gather." Words matter. He said "reminded" not "informed," the word he did use on other aspects of what he had told the team that day. They were already informed of that team direction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owtZl5eso2Q The letter with the directive was dated 10/1. Players are saying there was nothing in writing or anything saying what to do if they had a game and couldn’t get in the facility. Game wasn’t cancelled until later in week. So they found a loophole. Still stupid and reckless, but doubt they are suspended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Well at least the Bills will be somewhat rested for KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 What real assurance do the Bills (or the league) really have that proper protocol has been followed in the past week? NONE. With yet another one or two positives today, that is at least an indication that prohibited gatherings took place beyond the now infamous Sept. 30 practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 On to Kansas City. Might as well start that thread up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Beast said: On to Kansas City. Might as well start that thread up. Let’s hope so. Would be best for all involved. Let the suits in the league office decide when it is played, but this weekend seems irresponsible. Edited October 8, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Yep, use today's practice to start installing the KC game-plan. Now, there is no way the Titans can play this weekend. One way or another, the next game will be vs KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 According to the Titans board. Schefter thinks an announcement about the Titans Bills game will be out shortly.. Take it for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, scribo said: The CBL says the players need the opportunity to practice for two days before a game. Not sure if there is a way around that. Yes, I'm truly confused. This is what someone said.....Was it @JGMcD2? Then at the beginning of this thread, @YoloinOhio said "the titans need to go two consecutive days with no new positive tests in order to re-open their facility by Wednesday, which is the last possible day they can start practicing in order to play on Sunday" Yolo, where did that info come from, if now we're hearing they could still play? 12 minutes ago, whatdrought said: How concrete is that? I was under the impression that they were given a “don’t gather” order when the facilities shut down, and then the league included language in the 10/1 memo so that it would be consistent- if facilities are closed, teams aren’t to meet. That is my understanding as well - that the Titans were told not to gather outside the facility WHEN the facility was shut down, but the memo came out leaguewide Oct 1. But as noted above there seems to be a lot of confusion about these matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes, I'm truly confused. This is what someone said.....Was it @JGMcD2? Then at the beginning of this thread, @YoloinOhio said "the titans need to go two consecutive days with no new positive tests in order to re-open their facility by Wednesday, which is the last possible day they can start practicing in order to play on Sunday" Yolo, where did that info come from, if now we're hearing they could still play? That was stated earlier in the week (possibly Sunday) about the titans timeline. I will have to look to see who said it. However, it appears quite fluid. My head hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That was stated earlier in the week (possibly Sunday) about the titans timeline. I will have to look to see who said it. However, it appears quite fluid. My head hurts I'm just glad I'm not the only one who is confused. It's "stand and deliver" time for the doctors in charge of the NFL's infection control plan. With positive tests continuing and with confirmation that the Titans met at least once outside the facility (thus further exposure), are they truly so very confident that 2 days of negative tests would mean the Titans are clear? If they are placing Bills coaches and players at risk of infection...Bills could then become infectious JUST IN TIME to play the league darling Chiefs. There must be a giant collision between "we must keep the schedule going and the revenue flowing in! don't cancel!" with "consider the consequences if we don't cut this off here, with one team" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Regardless of what happens with this week's game, I really hope the league comes down hard on Tennessee. Fine the owner, fine the coaching staff, fine every player who attended that practice, and take away multiple draft picks. The league needs to strongly discourage other teams from pulling this *****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm just glad I'm not the only one who is confused. It appears everyone is just out there winging it at the moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, scribo said: Correct. If a positive test comes up today, the decision is made for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) I think the NFL will postpone the Bills game for now, on to Kansas City, the league will figure out the Titans situation. As for any final conclusions about the Titans game, they'll postpone and see where it goes, may not even need to make it up or the league assigns a forfeit at the end to have the games add up to 16. Edited October 8, 2020 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I think McD should shelve the Titans game plan and move on to KC's. Titans may be toast and a 2020 walkover for all teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I think at this point chatter is all it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 We'd have whipped their asses anyway. There...I said it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think at this point chatter is all it is. Yeah they don't need to make a decision at this point. The biggest question is where does it go for the Titans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: So Pats, Chiefs and Raiders all negative today. Titans continue to test positive. The Titans have massively screwed up the protocols. They need to be punished. The NFL has to be absolutely livid. They are ruining their image as far as how they are handing the virus, because they put protocols in place to have a season and they were ignored. It’s a horrible look from the titans. Edited October 8, 2020 by YoloinOhio 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Beast said: So, you are against the league taking their time to make a huge decision like this? What benefit will it have for anyone if they made it yesterday compared to say, today or tomorrow? It just looks like tough talk but no actual will to follow through. They keep bringing up the "F" word but I doubt they'll actually do it. Edited October 8, 2020 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just cancel the game already and let the Bills move onto next week. No need to keep the Bills in limbo anymore for the Titans F$ck up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Golden*Wheels said: We'd have whipped their asses anyway. There...I said it. Agreed! Same outcome, but none of our players are at risk. It does mess up Josh's stats though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That is my understanding as well - that the Titans were told not to gather outside the facility WHEN the facility was shut down, but the memo came out leaguewide Oct 1. But as noted above there seems to be a lot of confusion about these matters. From reporter Paul Kuharsky: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: So Pats, Chiefs and Raiders all negative today. Titans continue to test positive. The Titans have massively screwed up the protocols. They need to be punished. I generally agree. I’m not sure they need to make a final decision on what skipping this game means though. I don’t think the league has to commit to week 18, forfeit, win%, etc. The league does absolutely need to cancel playing it this week and call further decision “pending” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 we can definitely say the NFL has handled this situation worse than any other pro sports league the wealthiest league in the world looks like it has no idea how to handle this...embarrassing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: From reporter Paul Kuharsky: Yep, players saying they didn’t know because not in writing. Major organizational failure no matter who is at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, scribo said: What real assurance do the Bills (or the league) really have that proper protocol has been followed in the past week? NONE. With yet another one or two positives today, that is at least an indication that prohibited gatherings took place beyond the now infamous Sept. 30 practice. Not really. It's certainly possible that's the case, but the virus takes up to around 14 days to incubate and that practice was 8 or 9 days ago so it's entirely possible people are still testing positive from exposure that occurred prior to that practice. Which also points to the fact that it's irresponsible that the Pats-Chiefs game for example was played this past week and will be irresponsible if the Titans play this week. There's a pretty high likelihood that if it's played, it will be played with players that have the virus spreading it to other players, much like was the case with Gilmore against the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: From reporter Paul Kuharsky: Yep. They did it at least twice, looks like different position groups. There has been some early reporting that there were discrepancies in the contact tracing data. Wondering if the players down there took off their bracelets so as not to have their location known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I think this game had to be cancelled at this point but I really am against giving the Bills a forfeited win at this point. Yes, they broke the rules but no team signed up for a season where one team gains an advantage by getting a free win. No team signed up for forfeited wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I think you have to look at the top here . Mike Vrabel strikes me as a guy who doesnt care about protocol . Look back to draft night at his house, a clown show. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Penfield45 said: we can definitely say the NFL has handled this situation worse than any other pro sports league the wealthiest league in the world looks like it has no idea how to handle this...embarrassing I disagree, and I'm no apologist for the league, Baseball had a problem with the Marlins and Cardinals. How they handle the Titans is the biggest question yet to be determined. Still salavageable as one team of lunkheads caused the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: Not really. It's certainly possible that's the case, but the virus takes up to around 14 days to incubate and that practice was 8 or 9 days ago so it's entirely possible people are still testing positive from exposure that occurred prior to that practice. Which also points to the fact that it's irresponsible that the Pats-Chiefs game for example was played this past week and will be irresponsible if the Titans play this week. There's a pretty high likelihood that if it's played, it will be played with players that have the virus spreading it to other players, much like was the case with Gilmore against the Chiefs. That hasn’t happened, at least not yet. No chiefs or pats have tested positive. And he flew home on a plane afterward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: we can definitely say the NFL has handled this situation worse than any other pro sports league the wealthiest league in the world looks like it has no idea how to handle this...embarrassing I disagree. I think the NFL has a lot of great protocols in place...and why we have seen very minimal spread of this easily spreadable virus. The breakdown happens when INDIVIDUALS choose not to follow those protocols. I don't fault the NFL for that. However, they likely SHOULD HAVE built in shared bye weeks for all teams to make up games that would be cancelled, inevitably. But overall I think they have done a good job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 There's no game this Sunday. They need to just announce it and get it over with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 This whole sketch is worth watching (NSFW due to vulgarity) but I tried to have it start at 3:39, because it's relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, boco357 said: I think you have to look at the top here . Mike Vrabel strikes me as a guy who doesnt care about protocol . Look back to draft night at his house, a clown show. Meat. head. Ummmm Bills might not be too interested in a forfeit or cancellation knowing this Edited October 8, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That hasn’t happened, at least not yet. No chiefs or pats have tested positive. And he flew home on a plane afterward. It already happened though. It's pretty much a 100% chance Gilmore had the virus when he played this past week. He just hadn't tested positive yet because that's how the virus works. The NFL doesn't care about sick players playing as long as they don't have evidence that they knew they were sick. Edit: Playing the game with a player that has it has happened. I assume you mean that it hasn't spread to others from that game yet, which we won't know for another week or so. Edited October 8, 2020 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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