YoloinOhio Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) Edited September 29, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Fake News he's apparently been terrible.🙄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 its truly dumbfounding to me that somebody who is heralded every year for a crazy amount of pressures and rush wins cannot ever get home..... i really just dont understand. if a guy is winning that often, just the general odds would favor higher sack numbers. he's quite the anomaly. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 But is he a """fiery leader"""??? Because apparently the defense is all out of those. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: its truly dumbfounding to me that somebody who is heralded every year for a crazy amount of pressures and rush wins cannot ever get home..... i really just dont understand. if a guy is winning that often, just the general odds would favor higher sack numbers. he's quite the anomaly. No not really. You don't understand the premise of how the Bills play defense most times...Bills leave receivers open underneath and then rally to make the tackle well short of the first down most times. Hughes and other rushers make sure the QB has to dump the ball off short of the first down. Hasn't worked as well as it has the first 2 years but it has been highly effective for us playing this way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 If that’s true then the rest of the line mush truly suck. Hughes caught my attention zero times on Sunday and sadly the same can be said for our most recent first rounder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Hasn't he only had like 6 rushes this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Beerball said: If that’s true then the rest of the line mush truly suck. Hughes caught my attention zero times on Sunday and sadly the same can be said for our most recent first rounder. Which first rounder? I think Diggs did just fine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I don’t want to knock him I just never notice him anymore. He used to scream around the edge and the only time I see him now he’s bullrushing right into the tackles. I like jerry and he’s probably the unluckiest player in the league because the NFL refs hate his ever living guts. Of all the football I’ve watched the last 5-6 years I have never seen someone held as much as Hughes and almost never get the call 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Hope there is a high quality edge rusher at #32. Next year. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I read on these very forums that he was invisible this week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Amazing that with these win rates, he struggles to get double digit sacks. Wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: I read on these very forums that he was invisible this week And tre is meh, Micah is a bum, And Knox, Should be cut and Allen gets a b for the rams game. some people just have no freaking idea wth they are talking about.... god forbid when we actually loose a game. Edited September 29, 2020 by gordong 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, GG said: Amazing that with these win rates, he struggles to get double digit sacks. Wonder why? Perhaps because win rate is a pointless statistic? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I knew this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Fake News he's apparently been terrible.🙄 I have not seen the results translated on the field, but there could be other reasons.. and he was playing injured last season and he toughed it out but it showed - had offseason surgery for groin. I don't think he has played at his best and I think that is fair, but I am hopeful he will get back to form, particularly his old ability to change direction and chase plays down. Was really looking forward to how Addison on the other side would open things up for him. Not sure how ESPN generates this magic quadrant assessment (yet) and maybe he is generating more pocket pressure than I am noting. Will make point to watch more closely and take look at all-22. If I'm wrong then awesome. One less worry about our defensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Perhaps because win rate is a pointless statistic? It's pointless if the owners don't send these statistics to Al Riveron on a regular basis. It's ridiculous that a guy who consistently beats the OL somehow doesn't get to the QB. It's not like he just falls over himself when the OL is behind him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, matter2003 said: No not really. You don't understand the premise of how the Bills play defense most times...Bills leave receivers open underneath and then rally to make the tackle well short of the first down most times. Hughes and other rushers make sure the QB has to dump the ball off short of the first down. Hasn't worked as well as it has the first 2 years but it has been highly effective for us playing this way. Right. Clueless ole me. This is obviously what they do almost exclusively. Because that sounds like something top 5 defense would make a living doing....Thanks for the education. 🙄🙄(oozing with sarcasm) on serious note what you mentioned is but a section of what this defense has been about. but again, thanks for the education. Edited September 29, 2020 by Stank_Nasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: its truly dumbfounding to me that somebody who is heralded every year for a crazy amount of pressures and rush wins cannot ever get home..... i really just dont understand. if a guy is winning that often, just the general odds would favor higher sack numbers. he's quite the anomaly. Lol I was thinking the same thing and maybe some strip sacks. I would be happy with a big sack on 3/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, GG said: It's pointless if the owners don't send these statistics to Al Riveron on a regular basis. It's ridiculous that a guy who consistently beats the OL somehow doesn't get to the QB. It's not like he just falls over himself when the OL is behind him. There is the holding is fine against Hughes factor. Did note the Rams all-pro LT basically trying to push Jerry's chin strap up his nose. Valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They made a Jerry sandwich! I assume that’s him....they have his number pretty well covered up wrapping two sets of arms around him! Hard to “get home” when you are bear hugged front and back. . Edited September 29, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, gordong said: And tre is meh, Micah is a bum, And Knox, Should be cut and Allen gets a b for the rams game. some people just have no freaking idea wth they are talking about.... god forbid when we actually loose a game. Three weeks into the season no less. There seem to be a lot of posts that are demanding instant gratification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reader said: Three weeks into the season no less. There seem to be a lot of posts that are demanding instant gratification. People need to complain about something and it’s hard when they are undefeated. Now I agree the defense has not been up to its usual standard. But that’s been the case across the league. Perhaps the lack of tackling in the offseason and Lack of preseason film plus limited TC has impacted the defenses more than the offense. I’ll give it until mid season and see where we are. Until then I’m glad we finally don’t need to live and die on the performance of the defense and can let them get their bearings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, gordong said: And tre is meh, Micah is a bum, And Knox, Should be cut and Allen gets a b for the rams game. some people just have no freaking idea wth they are talking about.... god forbid when we actually loose a game. And then everyone makes up new thread titles to say are d is middle of the road I'll have to check the standings Yup we are still 3 and 0 When we win we 😢 when we lose we throw a tantrum. O you forgot that Moss stinks Hello everyone enjoy the ride and smile Edited September 29, 2020 by scuba guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: People need to complain about something and it’s hard when they are undefeated. Now I agree the defense has not been up to its usual standard. But that’s been the case across the league. Perhaps the lack of tackling in the offseason and Lack of preseason film plus limited TC has impacted the defenses more than the offense. I’ll give it until mid season and see where we are. Until then I’m glad we finally don’t need to live and die on the performance of the defense and can let them get their bearings. Not much to add except, as usual, I agree with your well thought out post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Augie said: They made a Jerry sandwich! I assume that’s him....they have his number pretty well covered up wrapping two sets of arms around him! Hard to “get home” when you are bear hugged front and back. . Not even sure who it is, but this is a picture of why pressure doesn’t always mean sacks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Hughes is not matriculating himself into the QB whilst he still has the ball, enough anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 It often takes two to get a sack. One to flush the QB, the other to make the tackle. Jerry is moving the QB off his spot often enough. But the QB just moves to a new spot and throws a completion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, NewEra said: I read on these very forums that he was invisible this week Just think about how many quality guys our fans want cut or traded over a hot take or two, its good thing they are not making the actual decisions 😁👍 Go Bills!!! Edited September 29, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: It often takes two to get a sack. One to flush the QB, the other to make the tackle. Jerry is moving the QB off his spot often enough. But the QB just moves to a new spot and throws a completion. this is the reason. I was told here before and after the 2019 draft that Ed Oliver would increase Jerry’s sack numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Beat almost sack artist in the nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: TJ Watt is nipping his heels and would be perfect replacement for when Hughes retires, as would Bosa or Winovich for run stopping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Always pressuring, never sacking. 57 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yeah, he does get held an awful lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Turk Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Augie said: They made a Jerry sandwich! I assume that’s him....they have his number pretty well covered up wrapping two sets of arms around him! Hard to “get home” when you are bear hugged front and back. . Holding is being called at a historically low level this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Holding is being called at a historically low level this year Interesting. I wonder if this is a deliberate “protect the QB and score points” policy, a random occurrence or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Reader said: Three weeks into the season no less. There seem to be a lot of posts that are demanding instant gratification. I know, why aren’t they 16-0 on the season already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I'm guessing they add the non-called holds to the "win" rate. The refs were clearly reprimanded after calling the hold against Jerry against the Jests, because he hadn't gotten a holding call since he got the PF for head-slapping his own guy, and the NFL made sure that holding call in game 1 wouldn't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, matter2003 said: No not really. You don't understand the premise of how the Bills play defense most times...Bills leave receivers open underneath and then rally to make the tackle well short of the first down most times. Hughes and other rushers make sure the QB has to dump the ball off short of the first down. Hasn't worked as well as it has the first 2 years but it has been highly effective for us playing this way. This. We encourage QBs to get rid of the ball fast as a result less sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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