Milano and Edmunds OUT against Miami

[JaCrispy]

Forgive me if it’s already mentioned as I have not gone through all the pages of this thread, but does anyone know if they will be allowed on the sidelines for moral support?

Edited September 18, 2020 by JaCrispy

[TBBills]

48 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I think if Fitz is going to cut this team up it is going to be in the short and mid-range game. And with Milano and Edumonds out I could see Klein (who is a better run defender than a pass defender) being picked on in the short range game. Fitz did have some success passing last year too. I just wouldn't get too confident about this game, yes I expect the Bills to win even with Milano and Edumonds out but this isn't going to be an easy win especially with the two LB's out.

 

If I had to predict the score I would say 31-21 Bills but the Bills are only up one score late. It just seems like one of those trap type games where the injuries to the LB corps can be exploited by the Fins in the passing game. 

Nah Fitz has never been good against top 10 defenses. This team is still easily top 10 without those two.

Edited September 18, 2020 by TBBills

[Beast]

I expect to see some packages with Poyer, Hyde and Marlow on the field at the same time.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Beast

[Special K]

IMO, the Bills will score no less than 24 points vs Miami....and the Bills D, even minus their two LB’s, should have no trouble giving up less than 24 points to Miami’s sub-par O.

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea Dodson is fast. He will have to play Milano's role I imagine. Klein will play more traditional mike and they will play a lot of nickel with Siran in as a bigger guy rather than Taron. 

 

That is what I expect anyway.

That’s what I would do but it doesn’t sound like it’s the plan. Sal made it sound more like Klein will be playing Milanos role. Which I absolutely would not be in favor of. I would let Klein play MLB and be the QB of the defense. He really can’t run. I don’t need him put in space getting exposed. He got lucky on the play where Bell got hurt because he was beat, badly 

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, Putin said:

Didn’t we mostly  played 2 LB’s against the jests ? 
 

+ 1 

dime packages are traditionally 1LB 6DB. bills play predominantly nickel with 2LBs.

[TBBills]

32 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

Whether it’s pass, run or triple option, in no way, shape or form are Dodson or Klein in the same league as Milano and Edmunds. Don’t fool yourself, Dodson and Klein are a sharp drop off and Fitz or Chan Gailey can take them apart. Bills may need 30 points to win. 

No they cant, Fitz cant beat top 10 defenses. Bills will probably score more than 30 but it will not be close. Hell we might even see Tua

Edited September 18, 2020 by TBBills

[BuffBillsForLife]

Big nickel the entire game with Neal, here we go.

[nucci]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

That is fine keep them out against a garbage team like the Dolphins, get the easy win and have them back next week against an actual NFL team.

You don't sit your top 2 LBs if they are healthy enough to play. 

[TBBills]

Just now, nucci said:

You don't sit your top 2 LBs if they are healthy enough to play. 

"Let me post some cliché bull####"

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I like Ed Oliver to be the elite guy on the D-line, I think he will be a Pro-Bowl player this year and down the line a possible All-Pro. But I do agree that the line is more so comprised of Average players in depth roles and moderately above average players starting.

 

I am a huge Ed O fan but he isn't close to elite yet. I don't think he makes the pro bowl this year necessarily either but if he does he is a year ahead of schedule.

[Process]

LB is def #1 need after this year. Would love to see them draft a first round MLB and move tre outside. And let Milano walk. Need to improve depth also. 

 

Other than that a stud TE would be nice. Maybe #2 CB. And allen needs to keep progressing. 

 

It's amazing how few holes this team has. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I wonder who Is more likely to play in the box at that lb/s role? Neal or Marlowe? They are both about the same size.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

This comment from Lorax today makes me think Dodson at MLB

 

 

 

Fair enough. I'd go the other way.

24 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

That’s what I would do but it doesn’t sound like it’s the plan. Sal made it sound more like Klein will be playing Milanos role. Which I absolutely would not be in favor of. I would let Klein play MLB and be the QB of the defense. He really can’t run. I don’t need him put in space getting exposed. He got lucky on the play where Bell got hurt because he was beat, badly 

 

Agree with you.

[ProcessTruster]

OK offense, go score 35 and get out of there.  

[Big Blitz]

We should be daring them to run anyway. 

 

5 and 6 DBs all game.  Make them beat you on the ground.

 

If we were going up against a team like the Browns we'd be in trouble.  Covering elite RBs is a problem for anyone let alone down 2 LBs.  

 

Down 2 starters or not please don't make Breida and Gaskin look like Chubb and Hunt.  

[Putin]

It’s time for our offense to win some games for us , if we can’t go to Miami and DOMINATE a game like this just  because both of our starting LB’s are out then maybe we are just not as good as we think we are , 

I have full confidence that this game will NOT be even close and will be out of reach by 4th Q 

GO Bills !!!

11 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

OK offense, go score 35 and get out of there.  

This ^^^^^ 

it feels like our D is like a big brother to our offense always looking after / protecting them , ITS TIME for our offense to put their big boy pants on and take care of business 

Edited September 18, 2020 by Putin

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, Max Fischer said:

Whether it’s pass, run or triple option, in no way, shape or form are Dodson or Klein in the same league as Milano and Edmunds. Don’t fool yourself, Dodson and Klein are a sharp drop off and Fitz or Chan Gailey can take them apart. Bills may need 30 points to win. 

 

Not saying they are better - saying I think both guys are better against the run than the pass and with the injured WR - I think the Bills can use them to slow down the run and allow Marlowe and Neal to play against the pass.

[Motor26]

18 minutes ago, Putin said:

It’s time for our offense to win some games for us , if we can’t go to Miami and DOMINATE a game like this just  because both of our starting LB’s are out then maybe we are just not as good as we think we are , 

I have full confidence that this game will NOT be even close and will be out of reach by 4th Q 

GO Bills !!!

This ^^^^^ 

it feels like our D is like a big brother to our offense always looking after / protecting them , ITS TIME for our offense to put their big boy pants on and take care of business 

Totally agree. Allen and the Bills should be putting up a ton of points Sunday. Zero excuses with the amount of weapons they have on offense to lose the game because they’re missing 2 linebackers. 

[Bing Bong]

Ruh roh

[MarlinTheMagician]

Smart to not rush them.  Long season for key players.  Don't make what appears to be relatively minor injuries into chronic, nagging, season-long problems.  Glad its the Fish.  No guarantee we win, but it is the right decision to sit them if they are not 100% or darn close.

[97bills]

9 hours ago, JimKellyTryouts said:

I'll be disappointed if we can't manage for this game at the very least, but next week vs Goff/McVay's quick pass game - I'm hoping for at least one of our guys to be back , as it will be much needed

This is what I think coach is thinking to keep them out against a less of a team and don’t take the chance of them being out next week. If we can’t beat Miami with just two starting linebackers out then we’re in more trouble then I knew

[BillsCuse]

5 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said:

Smart to not rush them.  Long season for key players.  Don't make what appears to be relatively minor injuries into chronic, nagging, season-long problems.  Glad its the Fish.  No guarantee we win, but it is the right decision to sit them if they are not 100% or darn close.

Agree, if you rush them back and they aggravate the injury worse than it was then they could be out much longer

[Greatdane21]

It seems like every time the Bills leave themselves thin at a position ,they have multiple injuries . .

throughout the league there are a lot of hamstring injuries so far . A result of no preseason games ?

also we didn’t get a chance to evaluate anybody’s talent or the other 10 individuals we usually bring 

to training camp.This all makes it tougher to get replacements . Beane does a great job .

 

[bobobonators]

Instead of 35-10 we’ll win 35-20

[TigerJ]

I expect Buffalo to activate Andre Smith and Deon Lacey from the PS.  They'll probably have even more nickel packages than usual.

[VW82]

Lorenzo probably has 4-5 weeks in him. 

[jkeerie]

Edmunds and Milano are huge losses, but I expect McD and Frazier to have Dodson, Klein and company prepared.  Both had to step into starting roles cold last Sunday.  With a full week of practice, I expect them to be solid.

[MarlinTheMagician]

6 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

I expect Buffalo to activate Andre Smith and Deon Lacey from the PS.  They'll probably have even more nickel packages than usual.

Good point.  I liked the Lacey resigning.  He can run a bit, no?

Actually, found this on Lacey from a 2018 article:

 

Speed is Lacey's asset. He ran between 4.45 and 4.51 in the 40-yard dash in 2013 coming out of Division II West Alabama, where he played mostly as a 215-pound defensive end. Now he's 229 pounds.

[MarlinTheMagician]

 

One other thing about Deon, in 2018 he was second team behind Milano at WLB

[YoloinOhio]

8 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said:

 

One other thing about Deon, in 2018 he was second team behind Milano at WLB

And he knows the ST scheme for Miami. He was there last season 

[GunnerBill]

9 hours ago, beavis said:

2 games ago: Crushing failure to tackle in a playoff OT loss.
1 game ago: Hurt themselves.
This game: Out with an injury which could be treated with Tylenol.

No cause for the pity party. I wish them success and hope they turn this disaster around. Foolish not to start scouting LBs. Please find a playmaker.

On his age, they do not score points on a curve. Win now league, no projects. Outside of coach and QB, which are once in a decade opportunities, everyone else is a dime a dozen in the NFL. Don't crash the space launch because you went cheap on the o-rings.

 

Who went cheap on the onion rings? That is unforgivebale. I wanna fire that guy's ass!!

[RocCityRoller]

Time for Dodson, Klein and Matakevich to step up. They are on the roster for a reason. Good test of depth. What do we have behind the starters?

[Rebel101]

18 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

WTF is this?

It’s an angry angry frustrated man 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 I died reading this only reading it again revived me 

[Rebel101]

19 hours ago, beavis said:

DeShaun Watson broke Milano's tackle in playoff OT. Edmunds has been weak all career and scares no one. He gave up the 3rd and 18 that same drive. Now they are both out Week 1 with a torn butt and a bruised shoulder and can't find it in themselves to go to work Week 2. They still take their million dollar salary. Good riddance. Who cares how tall you are, or how much you overachieve if you are bad on the field, loose and worst of all not even show up.

So funny 👍🏻 But you could tell how Edmunds arm never locks and just bounces off without bending on the Jets TD last week something happened. N I know you’re just being humorous but we do need both the LBs who made 2020 top 25 LBs

[Chandler#81]

Fitz is an inspirational player and at his best on short crossing routes. We’re exposed here this week, in a big way. I’m convinced it will take a rare back to back great performance by Josh Allen to leave south Florida with a win. 

I fear it’s not gonna happen..

[Coach Tuesday]

43 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Fitz is an inspirational player and at his best on short crossing routes. We’re exposed here this week, in a big way. I’m convinced it will take a rare back to back great performance by Josh Allen to leave south Florida with a win. 

I fear it’s not gonna happen..

Last week he may have begun his transformation into Big Ben II.  That’s what I want to see continue - can Allen become a true surgeon as a passer and put the entire offense on his back?  It’s time to find out.

[Max Fischer]

14 hours ago, TBBills said:

Nah Fitz has never been good against top 10 defenses. This team is still easily top 10 without those two.

You may be fooling yourself. 

13 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Not saying they are better - saying I think both guys are better against the run than the pass and with the injured WR - I think the Bills can use them to slow down the run and allow Marlowe and Neal to play against the pass.

I’ll say again, Dodson is a rookie playing perhaps his 15th play at game time and Klein is an average LB, in no scenario are they close to Milano and Edmunds in any facet of the game. 

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

Fitz is an inspirational player and at his best on short crossing routes. We’re exposed here this week, in a big way. I’m convinced it will take a rare back to back great performance by Josh Allen to leave south Florida with a win. 

I fear it’s not gonna happen..

I worry about every game but I don’t think I can go that far with josh needing a great performance to win.  Cam threw for 155 last week and their LBs are anferee Jennings (rookie), jujuan Jennings, and Jets castoff Brandon Copeland and the game was never in doubt. I think McDermott can protect the LBs with scheme especially given everyone else on the D is healthy. On the offensive side, this Miami D can be attacked in the run game unlike the Jets. 

Edited September 19, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[Stank_Nasty]

53 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I worry about every game but I don’t think I can go that far with josh needing a great performance to win.  Cam threw for 155 last week and their LBs are anferee Jennings (rookie), jujuan Jennings, and Jets castoff Brandon Copeland and the game was never in doubt. I think McDermott can protect the LBs with scheme especially given everyone else on the D is healthy. On the offensive side, this Miami D can be attacked in the run game unlike the Jets. 

This is what I was thinking yesterday as well. The linebackers for the pats were a huge part of their defense last year. They lost their top 4 via free agency and opt outs. Plugged in some no names and just stifled the fins for 11 pts. 
 

I’m confident in Frazier, Mcd, and the pieces surrounding our LB’s.... also aren’t the fins down Roberts this week? Would that be enough to say an already bad run D just got even worse? Wasn’t he a thumper up in NE last year?