YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 May as well dress Epenesa. It's the Jets. Let him get some experience. 5 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 That would be surprising, but looking at the depth chart makes it less so. Wonder when we'll get a look at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Butler over Phillips makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Wouldn’t surprise me to be honest. They’re very deep at DL, and injuries can easily mount there. I’m sure AJE will see the field plenty in due time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Darryl Johnson played a large percentage of ST snaps last year. It does seem possible he doesn’t dress 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Bust, cut him now.... 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 With the way McD likes to prioritize vets over rookies, and with no rookie camp or preseason, I could see it. Not the end of the world or AJ's career if so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Only think is butler has a hammy thing going on so if he’s not ready there is AJ’s active spot Just now, DrDawkinstein said: With the way McD likes to prioritize vets over rookies, and with no rookie camp or preseason, I could see it. Not the end of the world or AJ's career if so. For sure. But I’m sure he will be disappointed Edited September 9, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 It’s funny how things happen. There were people that were ADAMANT that the Bills would have taken AJE in the 1st round if they had a pick. Imagine if that were the case and he wasn’t active week 1?!? Epenesa fell into the Bills’ lap but he wasn’t on top of their board heading into day 2. He’s a role player and that’s fine. He will work his way onto the field and be a solid all-around player. This isn’t some athletic freak though that we should expect double-digit sacks from. He’s kind of like Shaq. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Its unofficial, smoke and mirrors fellas, smoke and mirrors... SM playing his cards close. 😁 Go Bills!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I mean, if your top pick isn't dressing, that is unquestionably abnormal and is not a great sign. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Its unofficial, smoke and mirrors fellas, smoke and mirrors... SM playing his cards close. 😁 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I mean, if your top pick isn't dressing, that is unquestionably abnormal and is not a great sign. If your top pick isn't dressing, he's nude. We can't have that in Buffalo, especially in winter. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s funny how things happen. There were people that were ADAMANT that the Bills would have taken AJE in the 1st round if they had a pick. Imagine if that were the case and he wasn’t active week 1?!? Epenesa fell into the Bills’ lap but he wasn’t on top of their board heading into day 2. He’s a role player and that’s fine. He will work his way onto the field and be a solid all-around player. This isn’t some athletic freak though that we should expect double-digit sacks from. He’s kind of like Shaq. What are the odds some national guy will pick up this and say Epenesa is already a "bust" for the Bills? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Its unofficial, smoke and mirrors fellas, smoke and mirrors... SM playing his cards close. 😁 Go Bills!!! You know it Don! One thing for sure is how many of these Special Teams players dress the first game? All of them? Five need to sit out. Easy ones 1. Fromm 2. Yeldon 3. OL 4. Probably a TE - So is that Gilliam or Lee Smith? 5. One D player - I got no clue who that will be! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kirby Jackson Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: What are the odds some national guy will pick up this and say Epenesa is already a "bust" for the Bills? It’s more of a local story. I don’t think too many National guys are concerned about the Buffalo Bills 2nd round pick in a season with SO many bigger stories. 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Winters and AJE/Johnson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 If Ike B. sits out you can't sit another OL or you can only dress 46. You have to dress 8 OL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, NickelCity said: That would be surprising, but looking at the depth chart makes it less so. Wonder when we'll get a look at him. I’d note that the depth chart is unofficial. Not saying it isn’t accurate, but it’s not from someone who would have access to the team’s official depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I’d note that the depth chart is unofficial. Not saying it isn’t accurate, but it’s not from someone who would have access to the team’s official depth chart. I get what youre saying, but it also matches what the Bills published on their site: https://www.buffalobills.com/team/depth-chart Sure, some things might change, but I'd be surprised if McD was trying to play 4D chess by listing our rookie DE as 3rd string and then starting him. I think it's more likely we are over-reacting to what 3rd DE means when they have a constant rotation, and AJ still may see more playing time than we expect. Who knows. Edited September 9, 2020 by DrDawkinstein 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: I get what youre saying, but it also matches what the Bills published on their site: https://www.buffalobills.com/team/depth-chart Sure, some things might change, but I'd be surprised if McD was trying to play 4D chess by listing our rookie DE as 3rd string and then starting him. That’s fair. Just saying don’t take everything on it as gospel. It literally says “unofficial” on it. Those initial depth charts usually come from the marketing department or team writers. Usually close, but not perfect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I’d note that the depth chart is unofficial. Not saying it isn’t accurate, but it’s not from someone who would have access to the team’s official depth chart. Dobbins is listed as 4th string RB on raven depth chart and I doubt that’s really the case. Maybe more of rookie positioning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I thought Epenesa had JJ Watt potential?😅 Maybe you should not of thought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s more of a local story. I don’t think too many National guys are concerned about the Buffalo Bills 2nd round pick in a season with SO many bigger stories. Winters and AJE/Johnson I agree, i think the only ones who will notice are us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I think he spends a lot of snaps at defensive tackle in pass-rushing so they will keep him active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Honestly don't expect much of anything out of Epenesa this year. He's going to get significant minutes one way or another this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I mean, if your top pick isn't dressing, that is unquestionably abnormal and is not a great sign. In this case it shows how good and deep the DLine is on this team. Possibly the best unit top to bottom in the NFL even without Star playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Yeldon, Boettger, Gilliam, LB Phillips, and J. Johnson shouldn't dress. This is easy. With no preseason, all 9 DL need to dress to keep them fresh. Case closed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Makes sense with him being a rookie and there is so much experience ahead of him, plus no preseason to evaluate him and get him up to speed. But I sure hope they have him active later on to get some experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I think different things motivate different people. I find it disconcerting that AJ couldn't beat out someone who was an UDFA last year. I also remember his combine interview with the team where he said he believes that everything has to be earned. Could be he is 3rd string, could be the coaches know him and want him motivated to earn his way up the depth chart. Rookies are going to have a hard year this year because of the lack of a preseason. My guess is you're going to see a lot of early picks peppered in throughout the game but deferring to vets when it comes to starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Is anyone else concerned that Cody Ford is starting at two line positions? I thought he struggled at times playing just Right Tackle. I really don't think Ford should be responsible for 2 or 3 linemen/pass rushers on any given play at this point in his development. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think you will see Gilliam and McKitrick sitting also. I think with limited preseason they are going to want more of the big guys as they work themselves into full game shape. They are short on LBs and all the back-ups are good on ST and I think a heavy rotation on the DLine is needed. May even see some rotation on the OLine to make sure everyone is 100%. I think they would be fine sitting a #4 TE and a #6 WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: You know it Don! One thing for sure is how many of these Special Teams players dress the first game? All of them? Five need to sit out. Easy ones 1. Fromm 2. Yeldon 3. OL 4. Probably a TE - So is that Gilliam or Lee Smith? 5. One D player - I got no clue who that will be! I'm no so certain Yeldon is an easy one. Last year they dressed an extra running back slot with DeMarco. With him gone will they instead dress all three plus Jones for ST I think both AJ and Gillaim sit out the first couple weeks, but by late October they'll be active. Gilliam for ST and AJ based on talent and good chance by then one of the other lineman will be nicked up to some level. If Gilliam is any good at blocking, could see him taking over Smiths spot. 9 O-Lineman on the roster so can only sit out a total of one. Finally MCD let the cat out of the bag on where Ford will be lining up on the line! I know we've all been waiting on that decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, njbuff said: Yeldon, Boettger, Gilliam, LB Phillips, and J. Johnson shouldn't dress. This is easy. With no preseason, all 9 DL need to dress to keep them fresh. Case closed. Fromm won't dress. Even easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Fromm won't dress. Even easier. I don't think you count the third QB as he is the emergency QB. I might be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I would rather have AJ active than Johnson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: I don't think you count the third QB as he is the emergency QB. I might be wrong though. No such thing as emergency QB anymore. He will not dress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Remember, this coaching staff is very cognizant of the rookie wall and don't overuse rookies early in the season (Ford, Oliver and Singletary last year for example). Looks like Ford is still going to be rotating with Nsekhe, but instead of sitting, will play right guard when Ty is on the field. You'd much rather have AJE be fresh the second half of the season, which is when the hardest stretch of the schedule is too. Edited September 9, 2020 by HardyBoy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, njbuff said: Yeldon, Boettger, Gilliam, LB Phillips, and J. Johnson shouldn't dress. This is easy. With no preseason, all 9 DL need to dress to keep them fresh. Case closed. Jaquan Johnson? He’s the leader of the ST unit according to the ST coach Edited September 9, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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