Tre White decides not to opt out, everyone is beside themselves with excitement because we're all in need of any small nugget of good news these days. Who wants a drink?

[teef]

why is everyone so angry?

[The Firebaugh Kid]

5 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said:

 

Don't post this stuff without a source or a caveat that it's your opinion. 

For real. Damn. 

1 minute ago, teef said:

why is everyone so angry?

Just wait until he opts out ?

[Jauronimo]

Just now, teef said:

why is everyone so angry?

Why aren't YOU angry?!?!?!?  You in the supply room hitting nitrous again, Dr. Whippits?

[teef]

Just now, Jauronimo said:

Why aren't YOU angry?!?!?!?  You in the supply room hitting nitrous again, Dr. Whippits?

you should see the new nitrous cart i bought.  it even has little wheels so i can scoot it around the office.  always ready to rock with two tanks connected.  

[Stank_Nasty]

2 minutes ago, teef said:

why is everyone so angry?

Well I’ve already come to accept he’s probably not playing and I’m now in the process of talking myself into at least a top 10 defense with a Norman resurgence and continued Wallace progression...

 

That being said. I thought after the last 3 years of seeing things progressively turn around for our bills I could officially put to rest the term “BILLSY”. Then we come off a 10-6 season with our roster intact and a huge addition... a Pandemic and the threat of losing our best player immediately follows the promising outlook. 

 

That’s BILLSY, bro..... and I’m pissed. 

[teef]

1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Well I’ve already come to accept he’s probably not playing and I’m now in the process of talking myself into at least a top 10 defense with a Norman resurgence and continued Wallace progression...

 

That being said. I thought after the last 3 years of seeing things progressively turn around for our bills I could officially put to rest the term “BILLSY”. Then we come off a 10-6 season with our roster intact and a huge addition... a Pandemic and the threat of losing our best player immediately follows the promising outlook. 

 

That’s BILLSY, bro..... and I’m pissed. 

it certainly would be in the mega billsy territory.  

[Just Joshin']

3 hours and counting..........

[CNYfan]

Why be angry?   That doesn't help, or move things forward.  

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

It’s great to be passionate about football.  It would be wildly hypocritical of me to suggest otherwise.  What’s not great is pretending that Tre White, a grown man who is a father and millionaire needs life advice Joe from Depew, a used car salesman who spends his spare time doing belly flops through folding tables and posting on football message boards.

 

Tre needs Joe Sixpack’s career advice about as much as Josh Allen needs me to coach him on how to score with the ladies.

 

Who said anything about Tre needing Joe Sixpack's advice?  I'm quite certain he does not.  The point is, the same passion for football that drives Joe Sixpack and Biff from Tonawanda to sound off on social media - pro or con - is the same passion that makes football a billion dollar enterprise and allows Tre to build his generational wealth by playing the game of football at a high level. 

 

It comes with the territory, that's all.

[Reader]

12 minutes ago, teef said:

it certainly would be in the mega billsy territory.  

 

The problem is how many unknowns there are. It also would be incredibly Billsy if he plays, catches COVID and is one of those young people who develop long term lung or heart problems and his career ends.

 

What are the odds of that? 1%? .1%? 5%? He falls into several higher risk categories.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 minutes ago, teef said:

you should see the new nitrous cart i bought.  it even has little wheels so i can scoot it around the office.  always ready to rock with two tanks connected.  

 

I can't tell if we're in Blue Velvet or Little Shop of Horrors territory here, Teef, and it's freaking me out.

[Mr. K]

Above all of this; If Tre doesn't want to play its fine. He has earned it from LSU to Buffalo.  Stud player and good human. Our defense would be taking a massive hit with out him locking down his side of the ball. He would also still have two years right? Would it have a 150k discount too? 

 

That being said the dude has been my favorite of the last 20 years. I really dont want him to play for the Saints(or any other team) but something tells me he wants to play at home. If he were to not play this year and be in Buffalo while not playing hopefully it could continue to hit him with the charm for a bit longer.

 

Go Bills

[teef]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I can't tell if we're in Blue Velvet or Little Shop of Horrors territory here, Teef, and it's freaking me out.

as long as you pay you bill, we can make your appointment whatever you want it to be.

[Rico]

My take is that in anything involving the Buffalo Bills, the Buffalo Bills come first, and it’s not even close. If Tre opts out, that would be detrimental to the team, and I would not approve. That doesn’t mean I will bash him for it, but I sure as hell am not going to support that decision.

[RaoulDuke79]

21 minutes ago, teef said:

you should see the new nitrous cart i bought.  it even has little wheels so i can scoot it around the office.  always ready to rock with two tanks connected.  

That hippie crack is some wild stuff.

[Canadian Bills Fan]

Me and this thread today...

 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

 

Honest questing regarding the top of this. Did Tre voluntarily announce he was contemplating opting out, or did he get asked and then responded? The only thing about it on his twitter is him responding to negative comments from fans. 

 

I think he brought it up in a discussion about his contract

[Billl]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Who said anything about Tre needing Joe Sixpack's advice?  I'm quite certain he does not.  The point is, the same passion for football that drives Joe Sixpack and Biff from Tonawanda to sound off on social media - pro or con - is the same passion that makes football a billion dollar enterprise and allows Tre to build his generational wealth by playing the game of football at a high level. 

 

It comes with the territory, that's all.

I mean, you’re right but I don’t see what that has to do with my posts.  Being a professional athlete means that loud mouths on message boards are going to spout off stupid opinions about how “entitled” a grown man is because he dares make his own decision about what’s best for him and his family.  That doesn’t mean that those stupid opinions should themselves be exempt from criticism.

 

Tre is wildly successful in life by every possible definition despite being born into poverty.  He’s a multimillionaire.  He’s a great player.  He’s seemingly well liked by coaches and teammates.  He’s a dedicated family man.  I can assure you that there isn’t a single person on this message board who knows more about what’s best for Tre White than Tre, his family, and his agent does.  Those who think he owes the fans anything other than his effort on the field are the very definition of “entitled”.

 

 

[Chandler#81]

I’m undecided if I’m gonna flame hizazz on twitter if he bails.

But I’m leaning that way..

 

Crying about people calling him selfish? He ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Hope isnt a good plan.  Heck three days ago there was a HUGE party in Cali for Football players.  So yeah sorry I dont pin my plan on trusting others to do the right thing.  

 

This party?

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/08/04/woman-killed-gunfire-beverly-crest-large-party-2-more-wounded/

"Kennie D. Leggett, who identified himself to CBSLA as the head of security for the party, alleged it was being thrown to celebrate a player recently getting drafted to an NFL team, but did not clarify the name of the player or which team he was drafted to."

 

[Jamie Nails]

I still feel like the longer this drags out, the more likely he plays. I truly wouldn’t be surprised to hear that the Bills are talking contract. Hope my gut is right

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This party?

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/08/04/woman-killed-gunfire-beverly-crest-large-party-2-more-wounded/

"Kennie D. Leggett, who identified himself to CBSLA as the head of security for the party, alleged it was being thrown to celebrate a player recently getting drafted to an NFL team, but did not clarify the name of the player or which team he was drafted to."

 

That was the recent one I was referring too.  There have been many, the thing that is being done now is renting AIRBNBs for these parties I know of about 6 (have been told about them from friends in Cali and Vegas.)  This one got the news cycle because of the shooting.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

8 minutes ago, Billl said:

Those who think he owes the fans anything other than his effort on the field are the very definition of “entitled”

 

You sure like to throw the term 'entitled' out there!  Let me guess, that's the "Privilege" y 'all be talkin about!

[whatdrought]

17 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said:

I still feel like the longer this drags out, the more likely he plays. I truly wouldn’t be surprised to hear that the Bills are talking contract. Hope my gut is right

I wonder how it goes if he starts talking about opting and Beane calls him up about contract stuff.... is that something the NFLPA would frown at?

[GETTOTHE50]

It was ill advised how he threw this out there. If he wants/wanted to opt out, then he should’ve done it. What does he have to gain from putting this out there? Hopefully he was respectful to inform the bills brass of his indecision. Otherwise, Idc for how he has handled this, and I’ll forget anything happened if he decides to play. Not a good look regardless. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

27 minutes ago, Billl said:

I mean, you’re right but I don’t see what that has to do with my posts.  Being a professional athlete means that loud mouths on message boards are going to spout off stupid opinions about how “entitled” a grown man is because he dares make his own decision about what’s best for him and his family.  That doesn’t mean that those stupid opinions should themselves be exempt from criticism.

 

Tre is wildly successful in life by every possible definition despite being born into poverty.  He’s a multimillionaire.  He’s a great player.  He’s seemingly well liked by coaches and teammates.  He’s a dedicated family man.  I can assure you that there isn’t a single person on this message board who knows more about what’s best for Tre White than Tre, his family, and his agent does.  Those who think he owes the fans anything other than his effort on the field are the very definition of “entitled”.

 

The heart of the issue would appear to be the possibility that Tre will not, in fact, put forth his effort on the field this fall (what even you agree he may "owe the fans").

 

What it has to do with your posts is speaking to your opinion that fans who are upset with a potential choice to "opt out" and who criticize it are "the very definition of entitled".  The point is, the same passionate fan feelings you term "entitled" are those which in aggregate, have enabled Tre and other ballers like him to be wildly successful and their reaction pertains to his effort on the field (or absence from it).  Tre' has a right to make the choices he feels are best for him and for his family.  Fans have a right to react to it - positively and negatively.

But at this point I think it's clear I've said all I can to try to explain, so we'll have to agree to disagree on that point.

 

 

 

[Jamie Nails]

3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I wonder how it goes if he starts talking about opting and Beane calls him up about contract stuff.... is that something the NFLPA would frown at?

I don’t think so. The reason the league wanted to move up the date was because players MAY look to leverage for contract purposes. Not saying this is Tre’s play, but I wouldn’t be surprised that a little extra monetary love or commitment would go along way. I was planning to leave my job for a new company last year. It wasn’t a play for money from the existing company, but they made a big financial commitment and I stayed. It’s human nature and he’s human. It may never come out, but there’s no doubt Beene would make that call if he felt it needed to keep him on the field this year. 

[Billl]

4 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I find myself in the same boat.   The problem I see with a lot of these guys is they were bred to be athletes.   They spend their entire high school careers playing football, going to college camps, where every little move is about trying to get a scholarship.   By the time they make it to the league they've never done anything but be an athlete.  The entitlement is out of control.  They think the league owes them something beyond their paycheck by just being there.   The truth is unless he becomes the top 1% of football players no one is going to think much about Tre White once he retires.  In truth I think he is a good player, but outside of football I could care less.   If Tre White opts out or goes to a new team, someone else will take his place.  No one is irreplaceable. 

 

3 hours ago, Billl said:

Nobody said anything about taking it personally.  He said he didn’t care about what people he doesn’t know say, yet here he is responding to comments by people he doesn’t know about a media session held by a person he doesn’t know.  Clearly he does care.  
 

This thread is filled with people who feel so entitled to be entertained by a 25 year old man whom they’ve never met that they criticize him for doing what he thinks is best for his health and the well being of his family.  It’s disgusting.  

 

14 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

 

You sure like to throw the term 'entitled' out there!  Let me guess, that's the "Privilege" y 'all be talkin about!

You seem to struggle with following a conversation.  My use of the word was in response to Tre being called “entitled” for having the audacity to make his own decision about what’s best for him and his family.

[Doc Brown]

5 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I wonder how it goes if he starts talking about opting and Beane calls him up about contract stuff.... is that something the NFLPA would frown at?

Frown at?  Yeah.  Would Beane be breaking any rules?  No.  It's more likely if Beane contacts him it's to assure him of what safeguards will be in place.  I have a bad feeling he opts out as he seems freaked out by this virus.

[whatdrought]

Man, this is nerve wracking as some of those FA watch threads. 

Just now, Doc Brown said:

Frown at?  Yeah.  Would Beane be breaking any rules?  No.  It's more likely if Beane contacts him it's to assure him of what safeguards will be in place.  I have a bad feeling he opts out as he seems freaked out by this virus.

 

I think the GF/wife angle that others have mentioned seems to make the most sense to me. I struggle to believe that he would have even reported if he was personally very worried about it. 

[Billl]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

The heart of the issue would appear to be the possibility that Tre will not, in fact, put forth his effort on the field this fall (what even you agree he may "owe the fans").

You’re way too intelligent to miss a point this badly.  He has the right to opt out.  If he chooses to play, he owes his best effort on the field.  If he chooses not to play, he doesn’t owe fans a damned thing.  If he chooses to play and then jakes it, then he should be criticized.

Edited August 6, 2020 by Billl

[NoSaint]

9 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I wonder how it goes if he starts talking about opting and Beane calls him up about contract stuff.... is that something the NFLPA would frown at?

who cares?

 

sounds snarky but honestly, why would anyone care if they frown? 

[Process]

Tre really going to wait until minutes before the deadline to opt out??

 

The closer we get the more I think he was just looking for attention and is going to play. 

 

Maybe I'm being optimistic, though his tweet this morning certainly supports the need for attention theory.

Edited August 6, 2020 by Process

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

3 minutes ago, Process said:

Tre really going to wait until minutes before the deadline to opt out??

 

The closer we get the more I think he was just looking for attention and is going to play. 

 

Maybe I'm being optimistic.

Its one or those things where he may have already done it, but neither he not the team have announced it. 

[whatdrought]

4 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

who cares?

 

sounds snarky but honestly, why would anyone care if they frown? 

I don’t unless it leads to bad press. 
 

Don’t forget, in a lot of ways the guys who opt out are being held up as some form of hero or wise sacrificial lamb. So to have a player on the path to becoming that and then be “tempted to stay” by money and corporate greed could lead to some negative press. 

[RaoulDuke79]

48 minutes ago, Rico said:

My take is that in anything involving the Buffalo Bills, the Buffalo Bills come first, and it’s not even close. If Tre opts out, that would be detrimental to the team, and I would not approve. That doesn’t mean I will bash him for it, but I sure as hell am not going to support that decision.

[YoloinOhio]

He only has to submit it in writing to the team by 4. We may not even know today. If they don’t announce it, it won’t hit the wire until tomorrow I’m pretty sure.

[Jamie Nails]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

He only has to submit it in writing to the team by 4. We may not even know today. If they don’t announce it, it won’t hit the wire until tomorrow I’m pretty sure.

 

Pretty sure it would leak to the national or beat reporters if he opts out. 

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Jamie Nails said:

 

Pretty sure it would leak to the national or beat reporters if he opts out. 

You would think, but won’t feel out of the woods if 4:00 hits and nothing 

[sven233]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He only has to submit it in writing to the team by 4. We may not even know today. If they don’t announce it, it won’t hit the wire until tomorrow I’m pretty sure.

 

It may take a bit to find out, but make no mistake about it, if Tre, or any other prominent players opt out before the deadline today, someone will have it.  Hard keeping this type of information quiet in this league, especially for 24 hours.