LeviF Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: Of course, but you have no idea when you say those things if they are or are not welcome. In a workplace, you have to assume they are not, especially considering someone that simply overhears it can be the person that treats it as unwelcome versus the person actually on the receiving end of the comment. Stop snitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Finance is still like this, because it, too, is dominated by Baby Boomers used to a certain way of relating to the world. Until that generation retires and fades into the sunset, this stuff will continue to happen. I hate to say it but my dad is like that to an extent. He calls waitresses “honey” and stuff like that. It’s not meant in a harassing manner but it’s cringeworthy nonetheless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I hate to say it but my dad is like that to an extent. He calls waitresses “honey” and stuff like that. It’s not meant in a harassing manner but it’s cringeworthy nonetheless. I thought it was weird when he calls me that too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, T master said: In our overly "sensitive/politically correct" world in which we live i just wonder how many of these sexual harassment claims are something as simple as a guy saying something like "Hey girl you look hot today" or "dang look at those legs" ? So many people today are so sensitive that the slightest of statements could later turn into a harassment allegation ! If that be the case i sure am glad i'm not in high school any more cause i would still be in prison for playing grab ass while going down the hall ways ! If i were to ever run for public office i can see a bunch of women coming out saying what a perv i was and being a man i would proudly say . YES SIR I I AM GUILTY AND I DID GRAB HER ASS WHILE GOING TO SCIENCE CLASS !! ? super cringe. 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Haven’t read the whole thread but this 100% the reason that Russ Brandon isn’t employed by PSE. As someone that knows and understands what his role REALLY was, he was very good. He’s an elite sports business executive. He’s also slimy and had situations like this more than once. It wasn’t much better outside of the work place either. They had no choice but to cut the cord or they’d have ended up in the same situation. 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I thought it was weird when he calls me that too. That’s where I get it from honey 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: super cringe. We really do need a “cringe” emoji @SDS. I can’t tell you how many times I wanted to use that over the last few months lol. 1 hour ago, T master said: In our overly "sensitive/politically correct" world in which we live i just wonder how many of these sexual harassment claims are something as simple as a guy saying something like "Hey girl you look hot today" or "dang look at those legs" ? So many people today are so sensitive that the slightest of statements could later turn into a harassment allegation ! If that be the case i sure am glad i'm not in high school any more cause i would still be in prison for playing grab ass while going down the hall ways ! If i were to ever run for public office i can see a bunch of women coming out saying what a perv i was and being a man i would proudly say . YES SIR I I AM GUILTY AND I DID GRAB HER ASS WHILE GOING TO SCIENCE CLASS !! ? Don’t ever change TBD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I hate to say it but my dad is like that to an extent. He calls waitresses “honey” and stuff like that. It’s not meant in a harassing manner but it’s cringeworthy nonetheless. I guess it really depends on how he says it. My grandfather used to call servers “honey”, but it was the most non-threatening thing. In fact, the waitresses used to come up to me after and tell me how sweet he was. Side note: when I was in the Deep South for work a few years back, every waitress had some kind of moniker they’d use for their male customers. One in particular called every man “Little Darlin’ “ which I thought was hilarious, because she was about 5’1” and couldn’t have been older than 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I guess it really depends on how he says it. My grandfather used to call servers “honey”, but it was the most non-threatening thing. In fact, the waitresses used to come up to me after and tell me how sweet he was. Side note: when I was in the Deep South for work a few years back, every waitress had some kind of moniker they’d use for their male customers. One in particular called every man “Little Darlin’ “ which I thought was hilarious, because she was about 5’1” and couldn’t have been older than 21. It’s not threatening but still wish he had a little more awareness. It’s 2020. He’s 69-years-old which is right on that verge of when it’s okay. Yeah, it’s different in the South. They call you babe, dear, honey, dawlin’, etc... It sounds like a bit of a double standard but when it’s the women to men it feels less threatening/creepy. That holds especially true in a more regional situation like this. If a waitress called me babe in Buffalo it’s a lot different than when someone here says “what can I get for ya babe.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Don’t ever change TBD That asshat comment doesn’t represent TBD. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I guess it really depends on how he says it. My grandfather used to call servers “honey”, but it was the most non-threatening thing. In fact, the waitresses used to come up to me after and tell me how sweet he was. Side note: when I was in the Deep South for work a few years back, every waitress had some kind of moniker they’d use for their male customers. One in particular called every man “Little Darlin’ “ which I thought was hilarious, because she was about 5’1” and couldn’t have been older than 21. In Baltimore, most of the waitresses call you “Hon”. They even have a Hon Fest every Year. http://honfest.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Anyone have the cliff notes on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, MJS said: Guess I've been lucky. Every place I have ever worked hasn't had any issues with a bad culture, or at least nothing like that. Almost everyone has been professionals and respectful. I had one case where on an install the commander made a comment after one of my team left room "Boy she has a sweet ass" with him watching her as she walked out of room. I told him one-on-one that I had note recorded including date, time and those present in room. If he repeated that comment or made any degrading comments again it would go in my official report of install. He stated yes he should not make comment and I said it was more than the comment, you were looking at her like she was walking by on a platform and all the guys saw that and took that as approval from lead. There were no issues on rest of trip with mouth or eyes from anybody. I do not know if he spoke to anyone when I was not there. 7 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Anyone have the cliff notes on this? Snyder has signed an external female laywer to white wash it while firing those who there was evidence on without admitting any blame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Anyone have the cliff notes on this? We do have someone complaining that he’s not allowed to harass women anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: We do have someone complaining that he’s not allowed to harass women anymore... I tried reading the Washington post story, but it was behind a paywall. Instant close of the webpage for me whenever I see that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Anyone have the cliff notes on this? Here's the highlights New female hires were warned by other women to avoid a certain glass staircase in the building (men would hang out at the bottom to look up skirts) Women were repeatedly told to wear tighter/more revealing outfits (to increase sales) Women were hit on repeatedly after saying no None of the women had complaints directly about Snyder, but did say that he made a male executive do cartwheels for entertainment (as the guy used to be a male cheerleader in college). Inappropriate comments like "she has an ass like a wagon" or "nice, tight body" that sort of thing Actual texts: One message had a male executive referencing an inside joke about a woman, when she asked about he said they had a bet going as to whether or not her boobs were natural or surgically enhanced. Another message a guy was going to pick up a pizza for a woman....if she slept with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 55 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Haven’t read the whole thread but this 100% the reason that Russ Brandon isn’t employed by PSE. As someone that knows and understands what his role REALLY was, he was very good. He’s an elite sports business executive. He’s also slimy and had situations like this more than once. It wasn’t much better outside of the work place either. They had no choice but to cut the cord or they’d have ended up in the same situation. That’s where I get it from honey We really do need a “cringe” emoji @SDS. I can’t tell you how many times I wanted to use that over the last few months lol. Don’t ever change TBD ^^^^^This. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Waitresses and lady bartenders call me hon, honey, babe, baby, etc. all the time. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm less of a "hon" or "honey" guy and more likely than not to say "Ms." But if a waiter/waitress is acting real ***** then I'll hit them with a "sweetheart" or "champ" dripping with sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: We do have someone complaining that he’s not allowed to harass women anymore... I do not think Snyder was type to harass women but would have no issue with hiring women with looks to be harassed by customers if it made him more money. Like a drug dealer which did not partake - it was all about the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s not threatening but still wish he had a little more awareness. It’s 2020. He’s 69-years-old which is right on that verge of when it’s okay. Yeah, it’s different in the South. They call you babe, dear, honey, dawlin’, etc... It sounds like a bit of a double standard but when it’s the women to men it feels less threatening/creepy. That holds especially true in a more regional situation like this. If a waitress called me babe in Buffalo it’s a lot different than when someone here says “what can I get for ya babe.” yeah, I hear you 33 minutes ago, Rico said: In Baltimore, most of the waitresses call you “Hon”. They even have a Hon Fest every Year. http://honfest.net Whoa, really? That’s...different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, T master said: In our overly "sensitive/politically correct" world in which we live i just wonder how many of these sexual harassment claims are something as simple as a guy saying something like "Hey girl you look hot today" or "dang look at those legs" ? So many people today are so sensitive that the slightest of statements could later turn into a harassment allegation ! If that be the case i sure am glad i'm not in high school any more cause i would still be in prison for playing grab ass while going down the hall ways ! If i were to ever run for public office i can see a bunch of women coming out saying what a perv i was and being a man i would proudly say . YES SIR I I AM GUILTY AND I DID GRAB HER ASS WHILE GOING TO SCIENCE CLASS !! ? 100% this!! Back in the day we used to give the women in the office a firm pat on the ass to reward them after a hard days work. Today, that harmless and thoughtful gesture would be an HR action. I feel sorry for kids entering the workforce now in this PC environment. God forbid anyone tells a joke like "better wear a low cut shirt if you really want that promotion, toots". Simple pranks like hiding a camera in the women's bathroom will turn into an FBI investigation!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: yeah, I hear you Whoa, really? That’s...different OLD school. You can see it in the John Waters movies filmed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, T master said: In our overly "sensitive/politically correct" world in which we live i just wonder how many of these sexual harassment claims are something as simple as a guy saying something like "Hey girl you look hot today" or "dang look at those legs" ? So many people today are so sensitive that the slightest of statements could later turn into a harassment allegation ! If that be the case i sure am glad i'm not in high school any more cause i would still be in prison for playing grab ass while going down the hall ways ! If i were to ever run for public office i can see a bunch of women coming out saying what a perv i was and being a man i would proudly say . YES SIR I I AM GUILTY AND I DID GRAB HER ASS WHILE GOING TO SCIENCE CLASS !! ? A couple thoughts about this post in no particular order: How would you feel if someone said, "Hey girl you look hot today" or "dang look at those legs" to your daughter? If you were grabbing girls' asses in high school, then you were a perv. If you really think both of those things are still okay, then you still are. 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Man, there are some real creeps on this board. It’s like some of you have never interacted with a female before. Yikes. the crazy part is I could get away with this stuff because I’m handsome but even I know what the boundaries are. Like i definitely get sexually harassed on a daily basis at work but I just suck it up. ? 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I hate to say it but my dad is like that to an extent. He calls waitresses “honey” and stuff like that. It’s not meant in a harassing manner but it’s cringeworthy nonetheless. Women tell me they love being called sweetheart or sweetie. They also love it when I tell them to calm down, you’re overreacting, and relax when they get upset. Just some tips to help you guys out. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Man, there are some real creeps on this board. It’s like some of you have never interacted with a female before. Yikes. the crazy part is I could get away with this stuff because I’m handsome but even I know what the boundaries are. Like i definitely get sexually harassed on a daily basis at work but I just suck it up. ? Women tell me they love being called sweetheart or sweetie. They also love it when I tell them to calm down, you’re overreacting, and relax when they get upset. Just some tips to help you guys out. ? I find it useful whenever a woman is upset to simply ask "Are you on your period?". That usually reminds them and they calm right down. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Honestly, it was hyped way worse than it read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Man, there are some real creeps on this board. It’s like some of you have never interacted with a female before. Yikes. the crazy part is I could get away with this stuff because I’m handsome but even I know what the boundaries are. Like i definitely get sexually harassed on a daily basis at work but I just suck it up. ? Women tell me they love being called sweetheart or sweetie. They also love it when I tell them to calm down, you’re overreacting, and relax when they get upset. Just some tips to help you guys out. ? Dis you? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I find it useful whenever a woman is upset to simply ask "Are you on your period?". That usually reminds them and they calm right down. make sure you also tell the dress makes her look fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Washington Joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Here's the highlights New female hires were warned by other women to avoid a certain glass staircase in the building (men would hang out at the bottom to look up skirts) Women were repeatedly told to wear tighter/more revealing outfits (to increase sales) Women were hit on repeatedly after saying no None of the women had complaints directly about Snyder, but did say that he made a male executive do cartwheels for entertainment (as the guy used to be a male cheerleader in college). Inappropriate comments like "she has an ass like a wagon" or "nice, tight body" that sort of thing Actual texts: One message had a male executive referencing an inside joke about a woman, when she asked about he said they had a bet going as to whether or not her boobs were natural or surgically enhanced. Another message a guy was going to pick up a pizza for a woman....if she slept with him. And also a guy texting one of the women that was on her way to a new job saying that if they hug on her way out and she feels something on her leg, it's just a stapler in his pocket. And also they allegedly caught a guy on a recording talking inappropriately about one of the co-workers and when it was reported to the legal department, they just took the recording and locked it up so nobody would hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 The Redskins inhouse legal counsel and the HR department is guilty of malpractice for sitting by while all this chicanery was going on. A good lawyer would have gone to Mr. Snyder and said we need to stop this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, Gugny said: A couple thoughts about this post in no particular order: How would you feel if someone said, "Hey girl you look hot today" or "dang look at those legs" to your daughter? If you were grabbing girls' asses in high school, then you were a perv. If you really think both of those things are still okay, then you still are. in addition to daughter, I like to suggest someone they aren’t attracted to doing it to them. Maybe imagine their male boss did it to them. I bet T master wouldn’t be as pro-ass-grab or in favor of commentary about his legs at work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Dis you? Except much better looking and without the Shrunken roid testicles. 11 minutes ago, DCOrange said: And also a guy texting one of the women that was on her way to a new job saying that if they hug on her way out and she feels something on her leg, it's just a stapler in his pocket. And also they allegedly caught a guy on a recording talking inappropriately about one of the co-workers and when it was reported to the legal department, they just took the recording and locked it up so nobody would hear it. Yeah, anyone who thinks that is ok is probably super creepy. Like posting up by the women’s bathroom trying to buy them drinks as they leave. 31 minutes ago, nucci said: make sure you also tell the dress makes her look fat But they have no problem telling me they hated my shirt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 It is time to cancel the Redskids and the NFL, isn't it. What does Twitter say about this? I can't think for myself anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, 123719bwiqrb said: It is time to cancel the Redskids and the NFL, isn't it. What does Twitter say about this? I can't think for myself anymore. Probably for the best 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Honestly, it was hyped way worse than it read. My thoughts exactly. The NFL show on Sirius XM this morning had the author of the article on the air, and she didn't exactly sell this as quite the bombshell is was hyped up to be. Not to excuse any behavior if someone feels uncomfortable, but I was expecting some more serious allegations than cat calls and wearing more form fitting clothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s where I get it from honey Looks like I’m driving to New Orleans this weekend to hangout out with you and your dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: A couple thoughts about this post in no particular order: How would you feel if someone said, "Hey girl you look hot today" or "dang look at those legs" to your daughter? If you were grabbing girls' asses in high school, then you were a perv. If you really think both of those things are still okay, then you still are. Probably depends on how old my daughter is. If she's still a kid - off limits. If she's an adult, she can handle that how she wants; maybe she likes the attention. I mean ZZ Top made a song about legs and she knows how to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 hours ago, T master said: In our overly "sensitive/politically correct" world in which we live i just wonder how many of these sexual harassment claims are something as simple as a guy saying something like "Hey girl you look hot today" or "dang look at those legs" ? So many people today are so sensitive that the slightest of statements could later turn into a harassment allegation ! If that be the case i sure am glad i'm not in high school any more cause i would still be in prison for playing grab ass while going down the hall ways ! If i were to ever run for public office i can see a bunch of women coming out saying what a perv i was and being a man i would proudly say . YES SIR I I AM GUILTY AND I DID GRAB HER ASS WHILE GOING TO SCIENCE CLASS !! ? Sound like you were a perv and still are. You sound like one of those guys that made high school uncomfortable and toxic for many girls. Yay for you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Probably depends on how old my daughter is. If she's still a kid - off limits. If she's an adult, she can handle that how she wants; maybe she likes the attention. I mean ZZ Top made a song about legs and she knows how to use them. Who knows the inner workings of the female mind better than aging hasidic rock stars? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 my power move is to ask a girl when she's due. but seriously these guys act like pervs. hanging out by glass stairs to look up girls skirts? jfc that's just some weird ass behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Go ahead and harass my daughter. ZZTop said it's ok! Just when I think I've heard it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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