Buffalo Bills kicker Tyler Bass brings power and his ‘golden stroke’ to Buffalo

[Shaw66]

7 hours ago, StHustle said:

 

I thought Haus was signed Beanes first year. Pretty sure he wasnt a Bill before that season.

 

 

I looked it up. 

 

You're correct, Hauschka was on the roster for Beane's first season, but Beane didn't sign him.  He signed in March, and Beane joined the team in May. 

[Happy]

50 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Did it land where it was supposed to?...?

No, it fell short of hitting the wall and landed on the floor.

[Charles Romes]

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

in 2017, he made 7/9 from 50+.  the next year it was 4/7.  Last year 1/5.

 

His leg is dead.

yup and he’s not always booming it out of the end zone like he used to. 

[muppy]

15 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

My thoughts are cringing every time someone ends an OP with "Thoughts?" or "Discuss."

cringing eh lol okay I guess to me its an invitation to reply but posting a thread means that anyway I'll give you that  *shrugs* my mom would call that picking fly ***** out of black pepper ?

5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Can we get past 6th round picks being “draft capital”?

its a low round draft pick but they have value. Some pretty legit 6th round picks do exist both antonio Brown and Tom Brady were 6th rounders just sayin'...

[Mr. WEO]

9 minutes ago, Muppy said:

cringing eh lol okay I guess to me its an invitation to reply but posting a thread means that anyway I'll give you that  *shrugs* my mom would call that picking fly ***** out of black pepper ?

its a low round draft pick but they have value. Some pretty legit 6th round picks do exist both antonio Brown and Tom Brady were 6th rounders just sayin'...

 

 

Picking extreme outliers to make a point about the rest of the population is always a poor argument.  Go back and look at the fate of the Bills last 20 years or so of 6th rounders.  No team is investing much--those are house money picks.  Throwaways.  Sure, maybe you get lucky every decade or so...

 

 

Edited June 24, 2020 by Mr. WEO

[Buffalo Boy]

11 hours ago, bills522 said:

Imagine drafting Steve Christie (hypothetically) in 1988, unseating Norwood in time for Super Bowl XXV.. that's what I'm rooting for outta Tyler Bass 

YES!!!

It would be nice to have a kicker who the coach trusted past 50 yards.

[bmur66]

11 hours ago, bills522 said:

Imagine drafting Steve Christie (hypothetically) in 1988, unseating Norwood in time for Super Bowl XXV.. that's what I'm rooting for outta Tyler Bass 

I signed in to like this post ?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

11 hours ago, bills522 said:

Imagine drafting Steve Christie (hypothetically) in 1988, unseating Norwood in time for Super Bowl XXV.. that's what I'm rooting for outta Tyler Bass 

He can travel in time?  ?

[Utah John]

The game has moved on.  If you have to punt from the other team's 40 (instead of taking a 57 yard FG attempt) you lose a couple of scoring chances a game.  Granted, with our D, punting from their 40 should mean a good chance to pin them back, and get the ball back after a 3 and out, but with our punter that doesn't happen often enough.  Too many touchbacks when we punt.

 

So If we can get a guy who consistently hits from 55+, move on.  Thanks, Haus, but you aren't the guy anymore who made all those consecutive 50+ FGs a couple of years ago.

[AmishRifle]

Maybe the COVID environment will call for more specialists to make the roster....what happens when your only PK is quarantined for 14 days?

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

He can travel in time?  ?

I can, but unfortunately TARDIS is broken.

[Shaw66]

13 hours ago, bills522 said:

Imagine drafting Steve Christie (hypothetically) in 1988, unseating Norwood in time for Super Bowl XXV.. that's what I'm rooting for outta Tyler Bass 

Other people have responded to this post.  It's an interesting thought. 

 

It seems the typical trajectory for kickers is that they don't make it as the regular kicker as a rookie.  There are a few every year, but often as not they get cut and replaced because they're too inconsistent and the team isn't winning.  So they fall into the pool of free agent kickers hanging around, staying in shape and waiting to get called up to some team. Somehow they learn and mature in that experience, and eventually they get called up to a team and stick.  I suspect that's the typical trajectory because coaches are very reluctant to go into the season with a kicker whose reliability is unknown.  

 

Plus, Hauschka is a good deal better than Norwood, unless Hauschka has lost the ability to kick the long FG, the ability Norwood never had.  

 

Plus, will Bass need a couple of years of seasoning before he can be the kicker Christie was? Christie wasn't a rookie when he came to Buffalo. 

 

Still, I'm on board with you. The prospect of a solid young kicker for the next several years, one who may grow into something better than Hauschka, is tantalizing.  Maybe better length, maybe better kickoffs.  There's a lot to like in Bass. It's just hard to know if he has what it takes, mentally, to succeed in the league. It's a risk to go forward with him, and McDermott will have to decide if he's willing to take it. 

[Bobby Hooks]

I remember we got an “F” for drafting him when we did. Makes no sense, if he pans out he’ll be responsible for more points than anyone else on the team. 

 

Not sure why these draft pundits stay so deeply entrenched in archaic “draft rules.” They refuse to even take the teams needs or players skill into account. 

 

“Could work out great for the team, and the players excellent, but he’s a kicker and they took him before the 7th round. Bad pick!” 

 

With them its always a bad draft pick until its not. Then it’s forward thinking, etc. I wish I could be as wrong in my job and not have any consequences.

 

 

Edited June 24, 2020 by Bobby Hooks

[RoyBatty is alive]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Picking extreme outliers to make a point about the rest of the population is always a poor argument.  Go back and look at the fate of the Bills last 20 years or so of 6th rounders.  No team is investing much--those are house money picks.  Throwaways.  Sure, maybe you get lucky every decade or so...

 

 

Tom Brady is prove enough of the value of 6th rnd draft picks.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

14 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Last time the Bills drafted a kicker, it was Dustin Hopkins.  As a rookie, he couldn't beat out the incumbent, was cut and went to Washington eventually.  Hopkins had been hyped, too.

 

This is a tough year to try to take Hauschka's job. Big gamble for McD to take him.  McD doesn't want to be in the middle of the season and discover the kid can't hack it.  

 

On the other hand, McBeane like their guys, not inherited guys.  

 

Fun contest. 

 

 

 

 

Just read the article on how Moss never fumbles and all I could think of is this kind will be a fumbling machine this year.

 

Same here it worries me how he'll hold up.  Seems like often rookie kickers struggle for a year or two, then calm down and can become very good and steady.

 

My dream is that the NFL will announce special rules this year due to Covid so that anyone designated to the PS can't be grabbed by another team.  Place Bass there for the season, then next year he easily wins the job.

 

 

[Don Otreply]

3 hours ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

That's great bass!

 

It slices, it dices, it’s the Bass-O-Matic 

 

 

 

 

that’s some funny stuff, ?

[Buff76ers]

6 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

Didnt we try the two place kickers back a few years ago, one to just do kickoffs and it was somewhat of a failure.  Awfully "expensive" to have two kickers unless you put the rookie on the PS.

I think we did but i can't remember who they were I am thinking it was carpenter and hopkins but could be wrong.  I doubt that the club would look at having 2 kickers on the roster as a money situation but rather than a position player would be cut.  How much is that kicker gonna make anyways 500k this year?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, Utah John said:

The game has moved on.  If you have to punt from the other team's 40 (instead of taking a 57 yard FG attempt) you lose a couple of scoring chances a game.  Granted, with our D, punting from their 40 should mean a good chance to pin them back, and get the ball back after a 3 and out, but with our punter that doesn't happen often enough.  Too many touchbacks when we punt.

 

So If we can get a guy who consistently hits from 55+, move on.  Thanks, Haus, but you aren't the guy anymore who made all those consecutive 50+ FGs a couple of years ago.

 

I'm not kicking 55+ yarders every time - some teams only kicked 1 or 2 times all year at that distance.  But there's situations for it.  End of half and end of game are the big ones.  Would i like to be closer?  Sure - but im not, and there isn't time or downs to get there.  Missing in that situation isn't an end all be all from a field position standpoint.  

 

I need to know from 4th and 5 from the 40 that i feel good about the kicker making it at that distance to tie the game, or tack on points at the half etc.  

[Phil The Thrill]

20 hours ago, BuffAlone said:

agree ?.draft capital means it is finally real competition for Haush money. and IMO a needed competition. Nothing against Haush, but IF we can get better...do it

Sal Capaccio said on WGR this morning that he thought Hauschka would have a hard time unseating Bass.  Bass not only had a strong leg but he’s accurately in mid-range FG’s as well.  This would have been a big surprise this past Spring but I do think it’s more likely.

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Tom Brady is prove enough of the value of 6th rnd draft picks.

that’d pretty funny

[stinky finger]

11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

in 2017, he made 7/9 from 50+.  the next year it was 4/7.  Last year 1/5.

 

His leg is dead.

 

nah - just a flesh wound. 

[first_and_ten]

 

I think he was too good to pass up, so they drafted him. Simple as that. Haus is as good as gone.

[blacklabel]

21 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Last time the Bills drafted a kicker, it was Dustin Hopkins.  As a rookie, he couldn't beat out the incumbent, was cut and went to Washington eventually.  Hopkins had been hyped, too.

 

This is a tough year to try to take Hauschka's job. Big gamble for McD to take him.  McD doesn't want to be in the middle of the season and discover the kid can't hack it.  

 

On the other hand, McBeane like their guys, not inherited guys.  

 

Fun contest. 

 

 

 

I thought Hopkins was going to be named the starter and then he got hurt which led to them signing Carpenter, who kicked well enough that they'd stuck with him even when Hopkins was cleared. 

[Billsfanatixs]

On 6/24/2020 at 12:13 AM, Freddie's Dead said:

Lmao, the Bass-O-matic, been decades since I thought about it have seen that. Thanks

[Straight Hucklebuck]

We can’t be limited to 49 yard field goals.

 

Live through the growing pains of Bass and get your long term kicker.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

On 6/23/2020 at 8:12 PM, Happy said:

Somewhere, Haushka just threw his laptop across the room.

He tried to kick it across the room and missed.

2 Bills players that will never make it to the Bills PS or get picked up within a week are Jake Fromm and Tyler Bass.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

On 6/23/2020 at 8:45 PM, Muppy said:

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffa...o-buffalo.html

 

Buffalo Bills kicker Tyler Bass brings power and his ‘golden stroke’ to Buffalo

Updated 1:19 PM; Today 12:37 PM

Buffalo Bills kicker and former Georgia Southern kicker Tyler Bass (16). (Mike Kittrell/AL.com)

"If he will stay within himself there’s nobody out there better. I promise you.”

Legendary kicking coach "Doc" Spurgeon on #Bills kicker Tyler Bass. He coached All Pro Jeff Wilkins at Youngstown State & thinks Bass is even better. https://t.co/FLTuguGWFV

Once again the OP gets no likes and the first response gets 11. Such a strange phenomenon.

[Billy Claude]

Sorry, I don`t get it.  71% on fg last year, longest career fg is 50 yards and everybody thinks he is a sure thing.

 

This year`s Duke Williams?

Edited June 25, 2020 by Billy Claude
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[John from Riverside]

I think the lack of confidence in House to make long field goals has finally taken its toll on the orgamization

13 minutes ago, Billy Claude said:

Sorry, I don`t get it.  71% on fg last year, longest career fg is 50 yards and everybody thinks he is a sure thing.

 

This year`s Duke Williams?

When they use a draft pick to get him....he def is not "Duke Williams"

[Freddie's Dead]

On 6/24/2020 at 1:08 PM, Jaraxxus said:

 

That's great bass!

 

 

[major]

[muppy]

I have a question for the board: does anyone know if Bass can punt? I recall reading about  that somewhere but am not sure if its true that he indeed can. The Bills braintrust Love versatility so if he Can that seems to me another reason to keep him around? I am not sure he wouldn't be claimed off the Practice squad if they don't keep him on the full time roster.

Edited June 26, 2020 by Muppy

[FieldGeneral]

What ultimately decides which kicker a team decides to keep? Other positions are obvious why a team keeps one player over another. With kickers, we rarely see kicking situations that matter. Is it struggling in practice? A team would rather keep the more expensive option because they know what they get from him? Punters are slightly easier because these guys shank punts all the time, but it's rare to see a camp kicker in key moments. 

[ComradeKayAdams]

On 6/23/2020 at 9:07 PM, Muppy said:

the article held high praise for the young man I hope he brings it and leaves No doubt about who to keep, I would guess he'd be snatched out of the practice squad if he is near as good as this article supposes

 

Yes, one of those other 31 teams will almost definitely pick Bass up as soon as he’s released. The best-case scenario for the Bills would be to have both kickers perform really well throughout preseason, followed by a Hauschka trade for a late-round 2021 pick. Bass is the physically superior talent with a longer career ahead. By all accounts, he has the mental fortitude to handle the pressure of the position and the work ethic to quickly learn the wind nuances at New Era Field.

 

The Vedvik versus Bojorquez battle is also interesting. Vedvik seems to have a stronger leg and offers more versatility as a kicker/kickoff specialist.

[Billy Claude]

 

23 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I think the lack of confidence in House to make long field goals has finally taken its toll on the orgamization

When they use a draft pick to get him....he def is not "Duke Williams"

 

Serious question.  Why do people think the 71% fg last year is not relevant?  Was he injured?  Was there some other reason?

[RoyBatty is alive]

On 6/26/2020 at 3:53 AM, FieldGeneral said:

What ultimately decides which kicker a team decides to keep? Other positions are obvious why a team keeps one player over another. With kickers, we rarely see kicking situations that matter. Is it struggling in practice? A team would rather keep the more expensive option because they know what they get from him? Punters are slightly easier because these guys shank punts all the time, but it's rare to see a camp kicker in key moments. 

he officially punted 5 times in college for ab average of 48 yards

[Nextmanup]

Is his name "Bass" pronounced like the fish?

 

Or like the 4 stringed musical instrument?

 

 

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Is his name "Bass" pronounced like the fish?

 

Or like the 4 stringed musical instrument?

 

 

I think it's pronounced like the 6-string version.

[billsgpr88]

On 6/25/2020 at 3:14 AM, RoyBatty is alive said:

Tom Brady is prove enough of the value of 6th rnd draft picks.

This is like saying lottery tickets are a good investment because some guy hit big once.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 6/30/2020 at 3:36 PM, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

I think it's pronounced like the 6-string version.

Then Bass would have been a better fit for Gase.