njbuff Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: For those who are apoplectic over Davis picked in the fourth round, I remember my negative over reaction to another fourth round WR pick. I was like...Andre who? What the h--- is a Kutztown State. You have to be sh---ing me. What kind of b---sh-- is this. Well I guess he showed me how wrong my initial perception was. My advice now is to chill out and see how it plays out. I trust Beane to do the right thing. One of the few positive things that came out of one of the worst seasons in Bills history (1985) was that Andre Reed showed RIGHT AWAY in TC of 85 that he could absolutely play in the NFL and he started right out of the gate in 1985. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: agree he is a big WR. I know all those people want those 6’4 210 4.3 guys. Otherwise known a unicorns Or DK Metcalf, which the entire league passed on twice last year anyways. Shows the league doesn’t have the same obsession with size that the fans do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 This is a completely different team and draft than we have been used to for a generation. We no longer have gaping, glaring needs anywhere. For the first time, the GM can just take players that complement other players, rather than, say, need to take the best overall WR on the board. Davis and Moss were perfect examples. Davis fits into what we were missing perfectly if we were going to go WR. He's a total process guy, and his interview I saw (the transcript) made me immediately see why the Bills liked him more than other guys. Frankly, I wanted a WR, and didn't really like AGG or Peoples. I wasn't as familiar with Davis but he has skills I want to see on the Bills with Josh. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: It's simple. Most corners are 5'11" and under. A select few are 6'0" .... Generally WR's 6'2" are considered "big" or "tall" due to this, as they have an advantage against atleast 90% of the league's corners on jump balls. Right. It's not like we're gonna ask him to post up an NBA center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: This is a completely different team and draft than we have been used to for a generation. We no longer have gaping, glaring needs anywhere. For the first time, the GM can just take players that complement other players, rather than, say, need to take the best overall WR on the board. Davis and Moss were perfect examples. Davis fits into what we were missing perfectly if we were going to go WR. He's a total process guy, and his interview I saw (the transcript) made me immediately see why the Bills liked him more than other guys. Frankly, I wanted a WR, and didn't really like AGG or Peoples. I wasn't as familiar with Davis but he has skills I want to see on the Bills with Josh. When you go into the draft when your biggest need is a spell RB, you are crushing talent acquisition. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: There was a weapon! unstoppable Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Agree 100%...I want guys that are good at football not good at being tall (and Davis is a good size). I like the Davis pick. This is my favorite of the 3 picks so far. Favorite, huh? That’s high praise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Have multiple ? replies to my post about Duke's performance v. the Texans. Were people watching a different game? He performed very well when given the opportunity Week 17. But he had multiple drops in the playoff game and had difficulties getting open for Josh when we needed it while Brown and Beasley were getting more attention. https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2020/01/buffalo-bills-sean-mcdermott-why-duke-williams-doubled-cole-beasleys-targets-vs-texans.html Edited April 25, 2020 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) It seems like 4.55 is an typical 40 yard time for a big guy. Here are a list of leading WR and the guys more than 210 pounds are highlighted in red. CeeDee Lamb*, WR, Oklahoma Height: 6-2. Weight: 198. 40 Time: 4.50. Jerry Jeudy*, WR, Alabama Height: 6-1. Weight: 193. 40 Time: 4.45. Henry Ruggs III*, WR, Alabama Height: 5-11. Weight: 188. 40 Time: 4.27. Tee Higgins*, WR, Clemson Height: 6-4. Weight: 216. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Justin Jefferson*, WR, LSU Height: 6-1. Weight: 202. 40 Time: 4.43. Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame Height: 6-4. Weight: 238. 40 Time: 4.42. freak Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State Height: 5-11. Weight: 201. 40 Time: 4.50. Jalen Reagor*, WR, TCU Height: 5-11. Weight: 206. 40 Time: 4.47. Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor Height: 6-2. Weight: 206. 40 Time: 4.38. K.J. Hamler**, WR, Penn State Height: 5-9. Weight: 178. Projected 40 Time: 4.40. Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado Height: 6-1. Weight: 227. 40 Time: 4.58. Gabriel Davis*, WR, Central Florida Height: 6-2. Weight: 216. 40 Time: 4.54. Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC Height: 6-3. Weight: 219. 40 Time: 4.52. Collin Johnson, WR, Texas Height: 6-5. Weight: 221. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Van Jefferson, WR, Florida Height: 6-1. Weight: 200. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty Height: 6-3. Weight: 222. 40 Time: 4.60. slow Edited April 25, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Or DK Metcalf, which the entire league passed on twice last year anyways. Shows the league doesn’t have the same obsession with size that the fans do. Yep Unicorns. Once every 3 or 4 years they come along and actually develop to something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: Have multiple ? replies to my post about his performance v. the Texans. Were people watching a different game? He performed very well when given the opportunity Week 17. But he had multiple drops in the playoff game and had difficulties getting open for Josh when we needed it. https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2020/01/buffalo-bills-sean-mcdermott-why-duke-williams-doubled-cole-beasleys-targets-vs-texans.html The Jets are terrible and the Texans are not. I want players who play well against good opponents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Have multiple ? replies to my post about Duke's performance v. the Texans. Were people watching a different game? He performed very well when given the opportunity Week 17. But he had multiple drops in the playoff game and had difficulties getting open for Josh when we needed it while Brown and Beasley were getting more attention. https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2020/01/buffalo-bills-sean-mcdermott-why-duke-williams-doubled-cole-beasleys-targets-vs-texans.html If Duke is as good as some think. He will beat out the other Wars to include Davis. (He won’t though) and will be back on the PS again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: And why not? KJ Osborn Slot WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, ctk232 said: If the argument is for a physical receiver, why not Gandy? And for that matter, why not Peoples-Jones? Not saying this is a bad pick, but why not the others? I had Davis above both. Only just above DPJ but a round ahead of Gandy-Golden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Should contribute on Special teams as a gunner and a developmental WR. What you'd expect from a day 3 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Nice depth pick, love how McBeane really understands the needs of the team. Grab a CB in round 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, Tcali said: another harold carmichael!!...oops u may not catch the reference if you arent over 55 Easy, now. I'm only 53 and I got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Augie said: Based upon the limited ESPN video, his route tree seems to consist of “Go Long!” But we can use someone who can high point those balls now, while he’s learning to refine his game. The write up in The Athletic states that he has been actively working on his route tree and they no longer view it as a weakness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, FireChans said: When you go into the draft when your biggest need is a spell RB, you are crushing talent acquisition. So, are you @FireChan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Love this pick!!! We just found our #4 WR who is big, good speed, aggressive and gets up and grabs the ball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: So, are you @FireChan ? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, FireChans said: Who? Thought so. Makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: There was a guy last year like that. I think his name was D. K. Metcalf. Too soon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 As a guy who watched a bunch of UCF football, he may not be a burner like Tyreek hill but he has deceptive speed like Larry Fitzgerald coming out of college and he will out jump anyone for the football, I don't think of the games I've watched he missed a 50/50 jump ball. He is going to be an excellent redzone threat to start off his career and who knows when John brown and Beasley depart our roster. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) I tell you one thing from listening to him, He may be a good dude but he is not conceding ***** in the WR room. He has the mentality like I respect them guys but I’m not here to kiss ass either cause I’m going to take one of your jobs. I going to the hall of fame so this is just the 1st step Edited April 25, 2020 by Protocal69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Seems to me this is the combination of Duke and Foster. Maybe they feel they can roll both skillsets into one. Foster started out great but then had trouble tracking Josh's long ball and fell out of favor with the coaches as he was wasting downs. Duke came on late to be that contested catch monster, but he was 50/50 at best with a few drops. From what I hear of this kid, he's got strong hands so being able to track down the deep ball and haul in the stuff in the middle could earn him a roster spot as the 4/5. Foster, McKenzie and Duke are on notice and one of them gets cut. My guess is this is Foster's replacement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Couple receivers I liked better still available. But who knows in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Process Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Jets had a really good draft. Bills too obviously. Don't think the dolphins did great but they got their QB and had a million picks, so they are bound to have hit on some of them. AFC east should be fun for the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Route trees can be approved. Speed too but initial acceleration is easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 39 minutes ago, Logic said: Favorite, huh? That’s high praise! I just like the fit. He probably ends Foster’s tenure (and I like Foster). Davis’ ability to stretch the field will lead to some big plays and will open things up underneath for the other pass catchers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Gabriel might have been the slowest on UCF of the skill positions but that was the fastest team I ever saw and he never looked out of place. I doubt he is ever a 1 but I would be more surprised if he does not get 50 catches a year after his rookie year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Antonio Golden and Gabriel Davis seem a lot the same. Golden has the higher grade on ESPN but he is flagged for speed, and all his Scouting reports note speed as borderline. Davis seems a tick faster and is a vertical specialist. I don’t see much difference between the two actually. They both project as #4 WR sub package specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: National Champs, never forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I just like the fit. He probably ends Foster’s tenure (and I like Foster). Davis’ ability to stretch the field will lead to some big plays and will open things up underneath for the other pass catchers. Yeah. If Bills come out in five-WR set, defense HAS TO devote lots of attention to Diggs and Briwn and Beasley, meaning Davis likely single covered and somewhat forgotten. I like it. His work ethic, “dog mentality”, and explosiveness raring to mind you g Stefon Diggs, drafted in round 5. Learning route tree under Diggs and Beasley? Watch out for Davis a few years from now. Whew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: National Champs, never forget They wanted Bama until they got Joe Burrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Seems to me this is the combination of Duke and Foster. Maybe they feel they can roll both skillsets into one. Foster started out great but then had trouble tracking Josh's long ball and fell out of favor with the coaches as he was wasting downs. Duke came on late to be that contested catch monster, but he was 50/50 at best with a few drops. From what I hear of this kid, he's got strong hands so being able to track down the deep ball and haul in the stuff in the middle could earn him a roster spot as the 4/5. Foster, McKenzie and Duke are on notice and one of them gets cut. My guess is this is Foster's replacement. I think you are right in that Foster is not long for this team, DW has a 63.2 catch percentage so at least he is likely to actually catch what’s thrown to him, McKittrick may be a goner too, relevant to who else gets brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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