BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Because as we all know...the key to winning is running and stopping the run. Oh wait, that was the 1985 NFL calling. Sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, BillsVet said: Because as we all know...the key to winning is running and stopping the run. Oh wait, that was the 1985 NFL calling. Sorry. ^ obviously didn't watch the Titans last year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, NoSaint said: shocked? No. Unhappy? No. Surprised? Yes. I think they will want a little experience in the room based on what we’ve seen of their culture building. I doubt we end up with singletary, 2 rookies, and a rugby player in the building week 1 even if it’s our most talented option. I would be suprised.....with Moss we now have a back that covers every area - Motor (elusive) - Moss (banger) - Yeldon (pass catcher) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 The Athletic live tracker: 86. Buffalo Bills: Zack Moss, RB, Utah The Bills found value at the running back position in the third round last year with Devin Singletary and they do it again here with Moss. The contact balance is what makes the Utah product dangerous because he attacks defenders and bounces off contact, breaking tackle after tackle. The medicals are a little bit of a worry here, but his talent was top-50 worthy. From the beat writer: The Buffalo Bills had been sniffing around running backs in the draft process, including a meeting with their third-round pick, and landed a coveted option in Utah’s Zack Moss. The Bills feel quite strongly about the current starter and second-year player Devin Singletary as a featured back, though they wanted to give him a complementary back with a contrasting style. They tried it last year with Frank Gore as the downhill runner, and past mid-October, Gore’s play dipped by a great deal. In Moss, the Bills are getting that downhill style that can give them another option out of the backfield, and he can potentially fill in as a three-down back in the event of an injury to Singletary. Their offensive coordinator likes to have running backs who do different things, so this pick makes sense through the lens of all their philosophies. —Matt Fairburn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Like it. Hope to get back in 3rd for Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Love the dude's quotes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I was biting my nails I did not think he would last until their pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: ^ obviously didn't watch the Titans last year or the Ravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: He can get faster if he works at it. He's got lousy knee lift and lousy ankle dorsiflexion. In other words he runs a little stiff. They can work on that. That 4.66 is a bit misleading he was hurt at the combine and tried to run anyway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: You are talking about a fraction of a second It’s the 40 in the NFL, everything is fractions of seconds. But it’s about 0.3 sec slower than MJD, about the same speed as Gronk, and less than .1 slower than Mario Williams. It is not a deal breaker obviously. But it is a valid concern heading into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Yes, got the one I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, BillsVet said: Because as we all know...the key to winning is running and stopping the run. Oh wait, that was the 1985 NFL calling. Sorry. I know the Chiefs won the super bowl but half the playoff teams relied on their running game more than passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Because as we all know...the key to winning is running and stopping the run. Oh wait, that was the 1985 NFL calling. Sorry. Controlling games against high powered offenses is very important Want to beat teams with good offense? Control the ball and help your D You do that by running the ball 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Mango said: It’s the 40 in the NFL, everything is fractions of seconds. But it’s about 0.3 sec slower than MJD, about the same speed as Gronk, and less than .1 slower than Mario Williams. It is not a deal breaker obviously. But it is a valid concern heading into the season. Are we talking about a 40 he was hurt in and tried to run anyway? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Mango said: It’s the 40 in the NFL, everything is fractions of seconds. But it’s about 0.3 sec slower than MJD, about the same speed as Gronk, and less than .1 slower than Mario Williams. It is not a deal breaker obviously. But it is a valid concern heading into the season. I honestly dont consider it a concern at all If you are a player your a player 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That is excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, zevo said: I don’t think espenesa and moss are starters....Rotational pieces I guess I use the word starter too loosely. I meant these guys are going to play and contribute. I think neither guy is a "polish his game and he might see some playing time" like a lot of 3rd round picks. Epenesa is going to pass rush and moss will carry the rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: ^ obviously didn't watch the Titans last year Good offenses beat good defenses. See the SB win or AFCCG. Pretty much every game KC or BAL play. Those are the teams Buffalo needs to beat to advance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Mango said: It’s the 40 in the NFL, everything is fractions of seconds. But it’s about 0.3 sec slower than MJD, about the same speed as Gronk, and less than .1 slower than Mario Williams. It is not a deal breaker obviously. But it is a valid concern heading into the season. And what's a football season without valid concerns, am I right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Because as we all know...the key to winning is running and stopping the run. Oh wait, that was the 1985 NFL calling. Sorry. How many RBs have been taken in the first three rounds this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I would be suprised.....with Moss we now have a back that covers every area - Motor (elusive) - Moss (banger) - Yeldon (pass catcher) we still don’t have breakaway speed. You know, the area everyone was discussing. we won’t be the track meet team, but have talent across the board. Would’ve been nice to get faster on offense still though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 My take is that they thought Dillon would be there in the 3rd and had to take Epenesa when he slid. Moss is Dillon lite, but seems punishing. I say we go out and add Devonta Freeman to this group and find one more WR and we are stocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Love this quote about Moss: Contact Balance: Like trying to knock over a weeble-wobble. Mass rides low and he runs with a wide base. Flexibility in his ankles and hips allows for him to catch his body at absurd angles to the ground and still retain his balance and quickly turn upfield. Has a bowling ball approach to tight spaces and an active off-hand to stun the initial brunt of incoming contact. Able to generate scramble drill plays with shocking survival ability in between the tackles. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Love this pick! Amazing draft 1st - Diggs 2nd - Espensa 3rd - Moss Amazing. Yeah, maybe treading water while getting younger and cheaper on defense, but we are CERTAINLY more talented on offense. And the draft is far from over. I like our FO as one of our advantages. Later rounds is where I hope we can “win” over a lot of other teams. GO BILLS! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, NoSaint said: we still don’t have breakaway speed. You know, the area everyone was discussing. we won’t be the track meet team, but have talent across the board. Would’ve been nice to get faster on offense still though. We will be an "impose our will" offense, not a Madden 2020 offense. I'm happy with that... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: -Vision -contact balance the end "We are in trouble if Singletary goes down!" Ok we just got another (more physical) Singletary. I'll freaking take it. Vision and contact balance for days. Between Allen, Knox, Singletary and Moss, just keep a weekly slot open for Angry Run nominations earmarked for a Bills representative. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 He should be a decent backup RB. Too bad we have done nothing to bolster the blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I know the Chiefs won the super bowl but half the playoff teams relied on their running game more than passing. Which ones? Tennessee is the outlier, not the standard. 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Controlling games against high powered offenses is very important Want to beat teams with good offense? Control the ball and help your D You do that by running the ball In Back To The Future, Marty McDly went back 30 years into the past. You've done that outlining the strategy needed to win games in the 1990 NFL because ball control doesn't matter when your opponent scores 30+ like KC or perhaps BAL can do. Didn't Houston just score 19 points on Buffalo in something like 1.5 quarters? How are base DE's and slower RB's going to help Buffalo score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: we still don’t have breakaway speed. You know, the area everyone was discussing. we won’t be the track meet team, but have talent across the board. Would’ve been nice to get faster on offense still though. Ok, he doesn’t make us faster. He should make us stronger. Good pick. A complimentary back to Singletary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Love this pick! Amazing draft 1st - Diggs 2nd - Espensa 3rd - Moss Amazing. Funny thing is: if back in February someone would have told you these would be our first three picks, people would have been doing backflips down Chippewa Street. But tonight on social media, the usual cast of complainers. You just can’t — absolutely CAN’T — please some people. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: we still don’t have breakaway speed. You know, the area everyone was discussing. we won’t be the track meet team, but have talent across the board. Would’ve been nice to get faster on offense still though. I assume you mean in the running back department and not as a team as a whole Stephon Diggs Smoke Our two start WR's add plenty of speed to this team Having a young banger RB was ALSO a need 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 While I really wanted to add back with more speed, I’m pretty happy right now. he compliments Singletary in a different way. reminds me of a smaller looking Lynch. i feel his top end speed is better than the 4.65 at the combine. I’d say a hamstring tweak could have an impact. gonna be tough to decide between a moss and a Singletary Jersey. Who’s the lead back in 2 years? Probably going to be a game to game split. I’m eager to see how these kids grow together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: How many RBs have been taken in the first three rounds this year? Who cares? There were 15 WR's taken, 6 of which came in the first round. Another 9 in rounds 2-3. RB's are a devalued asset in the modern NFL. And it shows year after year when perhaps 1-2 are taken in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, GreggTX said: He should be a decent backup RB. Too bad we have done nothing to bolster the blocking. ??? How many picks did we have to work with here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 A better Chris Ivory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Logic said: Funny thing is: if back in February someone would have told you these would be our first three picks, people would have been doing backflips down Chippewa Street. But tonight on social media, the usual cast of complainers. You just can’t — absolutely CAN’T — please some people. Miserable caterwaulers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Weird analogy. Wouldn't a...you know...cannonball fired from a cannon be more effective? But that's where he confuses you. Nobody expects a cannon ball at a bowling alley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, BillsVet said: Who cares? There were 15 WR's taken, 6 of which came in the first round. Another 9 in rounds 2-3. RB's are a devalued asset in the modern NFL. And it shows year after year when perhaps 1-2 are taken in the first round. Who cares. We have a WR, DE and RB. So want to keep with the Hot Takes don’t forget about our WR BILLS 1st round. A WR. See how really stupid your sound? Edited April 25, 2020 by MAJBobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, BillsVet said: Who cares? There were 15 WR's taken, 6 of which came in the first round. Another 9 in rounds 2-3. RB's are a devalued asset in the modern NFL. And it shows year after year when perhaps 1-2 are taken in the first round. Then I guess it was a good thing we took both our backs in the 3rd round? 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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