PIZ Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) I hope he only trades in this draft after he selects in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Total picks right now for 2020 = 7: Round 2, Pick 54. Round 3, Pick 86. Round 4, Pick 128. Round 5, Pick 167. Round 6, Pick 188. Round 6, Pick 207. Round 7, Pick 239. Edited April 22, 2020 by PIZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 There's nothing wrong with trading up if by doing so you acquire a starter or significant contributor. Beane locked down two of the most important positions on the field (QB, MLB) with three of his trade-ups, and Ford and Knox look to be starters for a while as well. Remember for so many years how boring the Bills were on draft day? Just staying in the slot and picking. I enjoy Beane's wheeling and dealing. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 The 1st round is out of the question, but depending on the asking price, I could see bottom 2nd or another 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I love seeing a GM trading up to get a guy that they have scouted. I’ll take a GM who believes in his scouting and makes that move to get a guy that they like over a GM that just plays it safe to keep his job. I like seeing the passion that Beanie has after he executes a trade and gets a guy that he wants. I think Beanie is going to build this roster into something special. He adds 3 to 4 players every year that upgrade or add valuable depth. I love the passion Beanie brings on draft day. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 word has it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I’m happy that he feels enough conviction and has enough confidence to pull the trigger on going to get players that he wants. That being said, he had SIGNIFICANTLY more “draft capital” to work with in the previous 2 drafts. I do think he will try to use 5th-7th round picks to move up in the 3rd or 4th round. I don’t think he will want to part with his 3rd or 4th to move up in round 2, but I would trust his judgment if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I love seeing a GM trading up to get a guy that they have scouted. I’ll take a GM who believes in his scouting and makes that move to get a guy that they like over a GM that just plays it safe to keep his job. I like seeing the passion that Beanie has after he executes a trade and gets a guy that he wants. I think Beanie is going to build this roster into something special. He adds 3 to 4 players every year that upgrade or add valuable depth. I love the passion Beanie brings on draft day. The counter (and I really like Edmunds so I don’t hate, just showing why it’s not always great to trade up): TE was drafted at 16. LVE went at 19. Darius Leonard went 36. The Bills gave up pick 65. so the Bills could not have traded up and had Leonard and paired him with Orlando Brown pro bowl level OT, WR Michael Gallup, DT Nnadi, or TE Mark Andrews (the Ravens ray lewised the 3rd round that year). they also could have taken OT Isiash Wynn, WRs DJ Moore or Ridley. Then they could have paired them with LB Fred Warner, a baller for the 49ers. I really like Edmunds so it’s nitpicking. But I would probably trade him for any of those combos. 12 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I’m happy that he feels enough conviction and has enough confidence to pull the trigger on going to get players that he wants. That being said, he had SIGNIFICANTLY more “draft capital” to work with in the previous 2 drafts. I do think he will try to use 5th-7th round picks to move up in the 3rd or 4th round. I don’t think he will want to part with his 3rd or 4th to move up in round 2, but I would trust his judgment if he does. I’m fine with any trade up after the first. Edited April 22, 2020 by C.Biscuit97 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I’m happy that he feels enough conviction and has enough confidence to pull the trigger on going to get players that he wants. That being said, he had SIGNIFICANTLY more “draft capital” to work with in the previous 2 drafts. I do think he will try to use 5th-7th round picks to move up in the 3rd or 4th round. I don’t think he will want to part with his 3rd or 4th to move up in round 2, but I would trust his judgment if he does. Beane is unpredictable. If he sees a player that he wants, he's going to get him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 58 minutes ago, PIZ said: I hope he only trades in this draft after he selects in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. He traded up with extra assets he acquired. He’s already “traded up this year when he went and used extra capital to get Diggs. No one should expect a big move at all, Beane likes his draft capital and he’s never included any high future picks In any trade ups and already traded next years fourth. No way Beane is going into next year with just 1 or two picks in first 5 rounds because he traded up. If we make any moves, it won’t happen until the cheaper rounds to trade up in. He won’t be trading up in the first 3 rounds IMO unless it’s a cheap and small move. I can’t see him giving up on any of our first three picks next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 50 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: The 1st round is out of the question, but depending on the asking price, I could see bottom 2nd or another 3rd. That's my prediction. Beane will be making two picks in round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I'm confident Beane was involved in 2017 from afar and 2018-19 of course as GM. Point is, this roster is a lot different than it was each of those years when they were overhauling as opposed to now with it being refined. I don't see Buffalo trading up largely because they bank on a lot of UFAs to start, particularly at OL, DL, and WR. They need young guys who'll supplant those experienced types when their contracts end. In short, roster management is different now and they don't have the draft capital to maneuver up. I'd expect them to sit still in round 2, although beyond that sure, they could move around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Beane is unpredictable. If he sees a player that he wants, he's going to get him. Absolutely! I love how he targets certain guys, sticks to his evaluation, and does what’s needed to go and get him. He believes in his board and sticks to it. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I’d expect Beanes m.o. to stay the same, even in this very different draft. No need for this roster to add 7 draft picks, so add 3-4 good picks by moving around the board to get players they like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Um. Jury is way out on Ford and Knox. I prefer to say - glass half full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: I prefer to say - glass half full. Scott's always glass half empty. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Even in the two Bills' drafts prior to Beane's, there were 2nd round trade-ups. To acquire Reggie Ragland, Dion Dawkins and Zay Jones. So it may not be Beane, but something in the Buffalo water. If there is one thing, we learn from TBD mocks, it is how much of a crapshoot the draft actually is - especially below round 1. While the Allen and Edmunds round 1 trade ups were significant (especially given the value + need), jury is still out regarding the round 2 and beyond trade ups. Cody Ford was actually a very minor tradeup. Both Jones and Ragland were major misses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 48 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I’m happy that he feels enough conviction and has enough confidence to pull the trigger on going to get players that he wants. That being said, he had SIGNIFICANTLY more “draft capital” to work with in the previous 2 drafts. I do think he will try to use 5th-7th round picks to move up in the 3rd or 4th round. I don’t think he will want to part with his 3rd or 4th to move up in round 2, but I would trust his judgment if he does. I could see him moving those later picks too. It’s more about quality over quantity at this point, we have a quality roster and only so many openings next year. Plus they’ve been good with their undrafted players too (Wallace, Foster) so we can sacrifice the later picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Anyone else recall when Buddy Nix made his great draft day trade up in the third round of the 2012 NFL draft for WR TJ Graham...and then gloated about it by saying "who says we don't trade up"! He moved up four spots in the third... I'm more than happy we now have Brandon Beane calling the shots. AND, I still expect a trade up into the first or early second for a defensive player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Scott's always glass half empty. Half empty is when he’s feeling optimistic. Most of the time, he’s a glass empty type. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: There's nothing wrong with trading up if by doing so you acquire a starter or significant contributor. Beane locked down two of the most important positions on the field (QB, MLB) with three of his trade-ups, and Ford and Knox look to be starters for a while as well. Remember for so many years how boring the Bills were on draft day? Just staying in the slot and picking. I enjoy Beane's wheeling and dealing. Yes the days of selecting RB’s in the 1st rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Too small of a sample size on Beane to make a prediction on either moving up or down for 2020....especially now that the Team is in a much better roster position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, Doc said: Scott's always glass half empty. I like thinking it’s half empty because then I get another drink. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 49 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: He traded up with extra assets he acquired. He’s already “traded up this year when he went and used extra capital to get Diggs. No one should expect a big move at all, Beane likes his draft capital and he’s never included any high future picks In any trade ups and already traded next years fourth. No way Beane is going into next year with just 1 or two picks in first 5 rounds because he traded up. If we make any moves, it won’t happen until the cheaper rounds to trade up in. He won’t be trading up in the first 3 rounds IMO unless it’s a cheap and small move. I can’t see him giving up on any of our first three picks next year. Yeah, I'm not expecting a big move from Beane. Maybe he'll try to get another 4th round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) I wouldn't be surprised to see it again. Look, there is no way 7 draft picks are making this roster. There might not even be a way 5 or 6 make the roster. So those extra draft picks he has accumulated are likely better used to move up and get a player they want versus maybe waiting to take someone they really don't. Edited April 22, 2020 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I would not want to be at a poker table playing against Beane. You could be holding 4 aces and he would still wind up beating you out. In Brandon I trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Um. Jury is way out on Ford and Knox. Under “normal” circumstances the jury is still out on the vast majority of draft picks League wide with one season under their belt, so um... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I’m a big fan of trading up in the 3rd, 4th and 5th round as little compensation is necessary to go up. In the 1st or 2nd round you’re talking blockbuster trades and mucho dinero. I prefer the former, but if a good QB is available, sometimes it’s unavoidable. Neither is bad if you know what you’re doing but RDS 3-7 is a bullish market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Putin said: Yes the days of selecting RB’s in the 1st rounds Look over the history of this teams yearly first draft pick under Ralph Wilson and it was mostly RB's, CB's. 12 DB's by my count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Look over the history of this teams yearly first draft pick under Ralph Wilson and it was mostly RB's, CB's. 12 DB's by my count I don’t mind a good CB in the 1st , but to use a 9th overall pick on a RB when we already had Beast mode and Fred Jackson that right there is just ?♂️ Edited April 22, 2020 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Two drafts are not enough to produce a pattern, in my opinion, especially when you consider that those were both rebuilding years, one of which we needed a QB. We'll see what he does this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Putin said: Yes the days of selecting RB’s in the 1st rounds That OJ Simpleton guy was a bust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, maryland-bills-fan said: That OJ Simpleton guy was a bust No he was not a bust he’s just all around great guy !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, Putin said: No he was not a bust he’s just all around great guy !!! (did you get the joke?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: That OJ Simpleton guy was a bust That dude was a cut above the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 This year, with the pieces they have and starting so far down, I expect no trade ups nor big deals. And that's not a knock on him, I LOOOOOVE that he goes for PROVEN players. Those beat draft picks except in salary cap considerations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Beane falls in love with players are pursues them. That or he sees someone that in his mind, falls so much relative to their assessed value that he feels what he loses in value by trading up is offset by the value of the position slip. I'd be very much ok staying as slotted. Rds 2-4 for BPA/need. 5-6 for depth/development. Rd 6, pick 207 for a punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I've always wondered how much input McDermott has on these trades too. I'd love to be a fly on the wall. If McDermott says, "Hey, our guy Cody is there at pick ______, you think you can get him?" I truly feel that these two love working together and feed off of each other. it could just be that McDermott sits back and trusts Beane too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I've always wondered how much input McDermott has on these trades too. I'd love to be a fly on the wall. If McDermott says, "Hey, our guy Cody is there at pick ______, you think you can get him?" I truly feel that these two love working together and feed off of each other. it could just be that McDermott sits back and trusts Beane too. I would bet that McD is right there with Beane and has a wishlist and/or gives input, where Beane gets the guy based on where he sits on the board. I doubt Beane will reach just because McD (or one of his staff) wants him, but yeah, I think you're right that they are working together. For example, take Cody Ford; for those that complain he is not a RT, was picked too early, etc, I could believe that is on Beane just as much as McD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Putin said: I don’t mind a good CB in the 1st , but to use a 9th overall pick on a RB when we already had Beast mode and Fred Jackson that right there is just ?♂️ Or when they allow them to go to a rival, like Stephon Gilmore? I'm just happy the days of incompetent losers running this franchise are long gone. Hopefully we can look forward to many seasons of winning. So many times in the past where some Bills fans criticized the moves made by past regimes there were always some who defended those horrid moves. One Bills fan defended Dick Jauron in a thread with 125 pages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Would rather him get 3 guys he thinks can contribute than 7 guys who might contribute. Beane will trade up more than once. Or trade for future picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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