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7 minutes ago, hjnick said:

 

Please tell me he's throwing to Diggs or Smoke... :)

 

Nah, he's throwing to a "session musician" of some sort. Someone great at their craft, yet unknown to most in the industry unless you're on the inside. Like Ry Cooder or Leon Russell.

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14 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

Boy...this JaCrispy guy is always in on Allen threads being a downer.

 

What's up with that, my dude????

Well, he’s not Darth Vader. More a Luke struggling with his inner feelings.. 

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2 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

Then I’m happy for you...but I’ve seen Josh already do this many times in the training camp videos, and it meant nothing in the regular season...

 

But who cares what I think...get excited all you want! ?

Nailed it!!! LOL, sorry @JaCrispy, couldnt help it. While I do not share your pessimism on Josh I do understand what you are saying. Im excited to see his growth in year 3. Hope it happens.

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

Get some skinny white guy out there chasing him with a broom.  Then come talk to me if he's still making those throws.

Via the internet will have to suffice for now. There is a virus a foot!

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3 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

May not be what you wanted to hear but it doesn’t make it untrue...

Doesn’t make it true either. Your opinion is not fact, lighten up mr buzz kill. Nuthin but luv for ya,?

 

Go Bills!!!

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3 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

Look, I’m cautiously optimistic Josh can get better, but if you think a guy in shorts playing catch in the backyard is enough to get me excited, you’ve got another thing coming...

 

Just like Han Solo says “Good against remotes is one thing, good against the living is something else.” ?

 

But if you want to get excited, all the power to ya!

 

Only thing that will get me excited is seeing it in live action...


Props for the Solo quote but you are completely discounting his progress last year and admitting you don’t understand where he came from. It’s gonna take time with Josh...everyone knew that from the night we drafted him. 

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3 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

Look, I’m cautiously optimistic Josh can get better, but if you think a guy in shorts playing catch in the backyard is enough to get me excited, you’ve got another thing coming...

 

Just like Han Solo says “Good against remotes is one thing, good against the living is something else.” ?

 

But if you want to get excited, all the power to ya!

 

Only thing that will get me excited is seeing it in live action...

 

If that doesn't get you excited, what DOES!?

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I appreciate his work ethic.  That imo is going to make him a success.  He is too physically gifted not to put it all together.  I see alot of Farve in him.  I think before you know it. hes slinging with Mahomes in prime time games and playoff showdowns.

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27 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I appreciate his work ethic.  That imo is going to make him a success.  He is too physically gifted not to put it all together.  I see alot of Farve in him.  I think before you know it. hes slinging with Mahomes in prime time games and playoff showdowns.

Agree it’s great to see the work being put in. The best is yet to come. I’m expecting big things moving forward and I don’t think he will disappoint. We are on the right path. 

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46 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I appreciate his work ethic.  That imo is going to make him a success.  He is too physically gifted not to put it all together.  I see alot of Farve in him.  I think before you know it. hes slinging with Mahomes in prime time games and playoff showdowns.


yeah, Farve is who he reminds me of as well 

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20 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Not a fan of his diagonal throwing motion- way too many accuracy variables.  Why the heck are the coaches not throttling him over that?

Maybe they know more than you.

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Great to see - mechanics look good.

 

In my opinion, Josh's deep ball issues were at least 50% mental last year. It wasn't something we were talking about after 2018 when he had a lot of late season success throwing long to Foster. After a couple early misses in 2019 and then he threw one late down the middle against NE, I think it got in his head a little bit.

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21 hours ago, MJS said:

Lamar Jackson missed a bunch of throws during his pro day throwing against air. So no, that's not true.

Maybe Allen should miss them in practice and then play like a MVP in games.  ?

 

Guy certainly has a cannon.  In terms of pure distance throwing, is he the strongest arm?  I was young for the Kelly years so while he’s the best all around, I’m not sure of his full arm strength. Losman had a cannon.  And a sneaky strongest Bill arm would be EJ.  When he was playing like a robot and throwing like he was playing darts, he had a cannon.   

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2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Maybe Allen should miss them in practice and then play like a MVP in games.  ?

 

Guy certainly has a cannon.  In terms of pure distance throwing, is he the strongest arm?  I was young for the Kelly years so while he’s the best all around, I’m not sure of his full arm strength. Losman had a cannon.  And a sneaky strongest Bill arm would be EJ.  When he was playing like a robot and throwing like he was playing darts, he had a cannon.   

Easily the strongest arm in Bills history.

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22 hours ago, DJB said:

He threw it 80 yards at his pro day and didnt even look like he was trying. 

 

2 years older and stronger and if he tried his best? I dont think 100 yards is out of the question. 

Yeah, he knows that too. Walking back to the LOS like a boss!

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28 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Maybe Allen should miss them in practice and then play like a MVP in games.  ?

 

Guy certainly has a cannon.  In terms of pure distance throwing, is he the strongest arm?  I was young for the Kelly years so while he’s the best all around, I’m not sure of his full arm strength. Losman had a cannon.  And a sneaky strongest Bill arm would be EJ.  When he was playing like a robot and throwing like he was playing darts, he had a cannon.   

I think Allen set the record at the combine for fastest velocity ever, if I remember. Pretty sure Allen has the biggest arm in the NFL at the moment.

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22 hours ago, DJB said:

He threw it 80 yards at his pro day and didnt even look like he was trying. 

 

2 years older and stronger and if he tried his best? I dont think 100 yards is out of the question. 

 

Throw it over those mountains. 

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1 minute ago, MJS said:

I think Allen set the record at the combine for fastest velocity ever, if I remember. Pretty sure Allen has the biggest arm in the NFL at the moment.

 

A lot of draft pundits and scouts were saying that Allen had one of the strongest arms ever and certainly the strongest arm since Cam Newton came out in 2011. There is no doubt that Allen (who has not had any major injuries to his arm or shoulder) has the strongest arm in the league even stronger than Mahomes who has a cannon. Now does pure arm strength translate to being a good QB? No, but it can and it certainly helps to have as strong an arm as possible. I think Allen can make it to being an elite QB but I do think he is a year away from being a top 5 "elite" QB. I think 2020 will be the year he knocks on being a top 10 QB. 

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On 4/5/2020 at 12:56 PM, DJB said:

He threw it 80 yards at his pro day and didnt even look like he was trying. 

 

2 years older and stronger and if he tried his best? I dont think 100 yards is out of the question. 

but what about over them mountains?

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20 hours ago, BringBackFlutie said:

 

If that doesn't get you excited, what DOES!?

 

23 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

I was specifically referring to the deep ball, since that was what the video was of...

 

Second, I’m not miserable in the least...I’m just not giddy over two guys in shorts playing catch, as some others appear to be...

 

Nothing wrong with that....

What if he wasn't wearing any shorts?:wub:

23 hours ago, Gugny said:

Get some skinny white guy out there chasing him with a broom.  Then come talk to me if he's still making those throws.

Please let it be Dick Jauron

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2 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

A lot of draft pundits and scouts were saying that Allen had one of the strongest arms ever and certainly the strongest arm since Cam Newton came out in 2011. There is no doubt that Allen (who has not had any major injuries to his arm or shoulder) has the strongest arm in the league even stronger than Mahomes who has a cannon. Now does pure arm strength translate to being a good QB? No, but it can and it certainly helps to have as strong an arm as possible. I think Allen can make it to being an elite QB but I do think he is a year away from being a top 5 "elite" QB. I think 2020 will be the year he knocks on being a top 10 QB. 

and then there’s Barkley..

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1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

 

What if he wasn't wearing any shorts?:wub:

Please let it be Dick Jauron

Hmmm...You raise a good point...no shorts would definitely make it more interesting....but still, I would have to wait til live action (shorts or no shorts) to make a final judgment. ?

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4 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

A lot of draft pundits and scouts were saying that Allen had one of the strongest arms ever and certainly the strongest arm since Cam Newton came out in 2011. There is no doubt that Allen (who has not had any major injuries to his arm or shoulder) has the strongest arm in the league even stronger than Mahomes who has a cannon. Now does pure arm strength translate to being a good QB? No, but it can and it certainly helps to have as strong an arm as possible. I think Allen can make it to being an elite QB but I do think he is a year away from being a top 5 "elite" QB. I think 2020 will be the year he knocks on being a top 10 QB. 

I'm assuming you meant 2021?

 

Arm strength also poses a problem because sometimes Allen relies on it too much. Zipping it into coverage or throwing off his back foot, etc. He has to strike a balance between trusting his arm, risk taking, and making smart decisions.

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1 minute ago, MJS said:

I'm assuming you meant 2021?

 

Arm strength also poses a problem because sometimes Allen relies on it too much. Zipping it into coverage or throwing off his back foot, etc. He has to strike a balance between trusting his arm, risk taking, and making smart decisions.

 

I think Josh if he continues to improve on his game this upcoming season I think he can knock on being a top 10 QB. In 2019 I think he was somewhere in the 18-20 range at QB last season factoring in his rushing. I think he can get to the 10-13 range if he finds his long ball and tightens up his mechanics some more in 2020. But I think he is a year away from getting to an elite level. 

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