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I couldn’t figure out a link, it is in the NFL App. I guess what he is attempting to do is rank each QB based on ability and contract cost. Not sure what relevance that has. He sure hates Josh Allen, ranks him 23, right after Gardner Minshew.

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2 minutes ago, chris heff said:

I couldn’t figure out a link, it is in the NFL App. I guess what he is attempting to do is rank each QB based on ability and contract cost. Not sure what relevance that has. He sure hates Josh Allen, ranks him 23, right after Gardner Minshew.

 

Literally the first link on google. 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108258/article/nfl-qb-value-rankings-who-do-you-want-most-at-current-cost

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1 minute ago, DFT said:

Greg Rosenthal’s reasoning for some of these rankings is just adorable... 

does he work for PFF? 

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I would put Josh ahead of the following:

Carr - Contract and inconsistent

Big Ben - Contract and injury

Goff - Contract and inconsistent

Stafford - Contract and injury

Baker - Had an off year and just not showing he's a leader

That would put him at 17. I have him tied with Darnold.

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1 minute ago, SirAndrew said:

Josh Allen has a chance to prove himself

big time this season, no need to be all hurt over a low ranking.

Wasn’t hurt at all. I found the premise to be absurd regardless of Allen’s ranking. You can rank a player on ability, you can rank contract value, but what is the point of merging those two things? 

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3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Josh Allen has a chance to prove himself

big time this season, no need to be all hurt over a low ranking.

 

One might argue that Josh could use this as fuel to drive him, but they’d be wrong, IMO.  I think Josh is already fully self-driven and I think this would be like water off a duck. I hope I come to love the player as much as the guy! 

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I care less that Josh is that low than Baker being that high. 10?? Given last years results I don't think you can really separate Josh, Baker or Darnold all that much. To have him at 10 is ridiculous. 

5 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

23rd sounds about right. His inaccuracy, fumbling, inability to handle pressure, etc always get a free pass from his admirers. I'm just hoping he can get it together finally in 2020.

Yea 23 is fine. I think the difference between 23 and 18 on any of these lists is very narrow. 

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2 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Wasn’t hurt at all. I found the premise to be absurd regardless of Allen’s ranking. You can rank a player on ability, you can rank contract value, but what is the point of merging those two things? 

I get that, and thanks for posting the link because I like these type of articles. I just meant that some people tend to overreact to these type of things. I really like Allen’s potential, but I wouldn’t expect him ranked higher than 20 something by any non-Bills fan. If he progresses the way he should, there’s no way he won’t move up in these type of rankings, even if the writer isn’t great. 

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15 minutes ago, Dopey said:

I would put Josh ahead of the following:

Carr - Contract and inconsistent

Big Ben - Contract and injury

Goff - Contract and inconsistent

Stafford - Contract and injury

Baker - Had an off year and just not showing he's a leader

That would put him at 17. I have him tied with Darnold.

....and Tannehill, I would rank him based on last year's improvements somewhere in the 16-17 range. I agree he should be side by side with Darnold. 

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48 minutes ago, DFT said:

Greg Rosenthal’s reasoning for some of these rankings is just adorable... 

 

While I think Josh could be a few spots higher, I thought he was fair with his quick blurb. Nothing terrible. Basically just said, "a bunch of great tools, I am not sure he will ever be able to put them all together at an elite level. I am happy to take the L if I am wrong". 

 

Kyler is a head scratcher to me. He played well as a rookie, better than I thought he would. But 6 is high for having 3 other other entrenched starters on their rookie contracts. Baker seemed high as well. I think all 3 belong around the Darnold mark. 

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5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

....and Tannehill, I would rank him based on last year's improvements somewhere in the 16-17 range. I agree he should be side by side with Darnold. 

Agreed. Somehow I missed the amount of Tanny's contract.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108258/article/nfl-qb-value-rankings-who-do-you-want-most-at-current-cost

 

I’m not an Allen “fanboy”, but this is absurd.  I’d take Allen over Carr, Minshew, Darnold, and Mayfield, and others.  

 

Where would you put him on this list?  I’d have him around 8.   

  

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4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Well... there will be no excuses left after this year boys...

 

Year 3 with Diggs ..

 

Third year in the same system,  a young quality RB, Diggs and 2 other good WRs, a quality line that will be in its second season of continuity and could be even better (Ford may improve and they got the new OL from Carolina), Knox and Sweeney improving and Kroft staying healthy at TE,  I'm a big Allen fan, but agree that he'll be out of excuses this year.

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3 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

 

 

Third year in the same system,  a young quality RB, Diggs and 2 other good WRs, a quality line that will be in its second season of continuity and could be even better (Ford may improve and they got the new OL from Carolina), Knox and Sweeney improving and Kroft staying healthy at TE,  I'm a big Allen fan, but agree that he'll be out of excuses this year.

 

Perhaps he will indeed be "out of excuses" this year, but, truth be told, I have never ever heard him make a single excuse for himself in the past. Just the opposite.

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Just now, GoBills808 said:

Seen this a bunch lately, what does it mean?


Read this..

 

7 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

 

 

Third year in the same system,  a young quality RB, Diggs and 2 other good WRs, a quality line that will be in its second season of continuity and could be even better (Ford may improve and they got the new OL from Carolina), Knox and Sweeney improving and Kroft staying healthy at TE,  I'm a big Allen fan, but agree that he'll be out of excuses this year.

 

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Just now, GoBills808 said:

So-no excuses if he doesn't further improve. Got it. 

 

You think that's likely?


Yes... considering most of the experts  here  and in the media have pointed to lack of weapons as holding him back..

 

What are your thoughts?

 

 

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