MJS Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Josh has no say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think it’s just because he’s working out with Sam Darnold at USC and Pittman is there too You blow that common sense, reasonable, likely accurate logic right out your backside, YOLO. YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE NEXT BUFFALO BILL! Yeah, I agree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: His sports diet specialist is telling him to keep a steady diet of cheap beer and chicken wings? Also toning up does not mean adding muscle mass. It means dropping the 10-15 lbs of unnecessary fat he is carrying. He might want to add anoth 5-10 lbs of muscle after that which I don't think would hurt his movement. IMO he does not appear to be in the shape he needs to be in to achieve optimal performanc eon the football field. Pretty sure you have no clue about Josh Allen and whether or not he is in shape. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, MJS said: Pretty sure you have no clue about Josh Allen and whether or not he is in shape. My main bone of contention in @J-GunJoshAllen17’s post was when he insinuated that Josh drinks “cheap beer”. With the quantity he put back at the Sabres game a few weeks back, I am quite certain that his beer budget is quite strong. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I'd like to know when being "shredded" made someone a good quarterback? Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow are human specimens and can't hold Brett Favre's cheap beer and dip. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Pittman at 54 you think is too high? You think he’ll still be there after pick 87? hes got a round 2-3 grade. He 6’4” 225, 4.5 40 guy with a sub 7 3 cone... very productive in college and has bloodlines. High character guy.... those guys don’t last long. No way he makes it past the first 5-10 picks in round 3. I’d grade him 50-70... trade back into 2nd to get him. first 2nd round pick is too high, esp. if someone like Mims is around (unlikely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: I'm not joking. He is not in great shape. He is in decent shape for an athlete but not even really that good of shape. If he is going to be a QB who relies on escapability and running ability, he would be better if he took his training and diet to the next level. Seems like a joke. The guys out there hurdling elite nfl defenders and running for first downs and more with ease. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I can see Allen looking like Big Ben in a few years. He’s naturally a big dude and Buffalo has great but terrible for you food and he loves Popeyes. That said, Big Ben (when not in a bathroom) is a really good qb. I hope not. Big Ben could in theory have gone from being a really good QB to a great QB if he took better care of his body. Bruce Smith laid it out there in a little media piece watching film with Tre White. He said you control 3 things: your film study, your nutrition, and your physical condition. There were a couple plays this season where if Josh had a little more burst he could have evaded a tackle and scored a touch or a first down. I would like to see him follow Bruce Smith's advice and do the best that he can with his physical conditioning and nutrition, just as part of having that "do everything with a Championship mentality" state of mind. I don't think Josh looks tubby, but I don't think he looks as fit and trim as he did before the draft, either, and if he truly wants to be great, he's literally leaving performance he could grasp on the table. All that said, Josh's biggest development need is still between his ears. 22 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Seems like a joke. The guys out there hurdling elite nfl defenders and running for first downs and more with ease. It's a point that Josh's yards per rush dropped this past season. I think a lot of that is delayed decisions to run in favor of waiting for a receiver to come open, but I also agree that he doesn't look as buff as he did before the draft and he seemed a bit slower at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: His sports diet specialist is telling him to keep a steady diet of cheap beer and chicken wings? Also toning up does not mean adding muscle mass. It means dropping the 10-15 lbs of unnecessary fat he is carrying. He might want to add anoth 5-10 lbs of muscle after that which I don't think would hurt his movement. IMO he does not appear to be in the shape he needs to be in to achieve optimal performanc eon the football field. Look, I agree that Josh looks like he could get a bit more shredded and it couldn't hurt, but you literally have no idea what Josh eats as a regular diet. Being seen at a Sabres game drinking with his two TE or eating the occasional Bar Bill does not mean "steady diet of cheap beer and chicken wings". And again...all that said, Josh's biggest development need is still between his ears. An extra hour hitting the weights may not help him achieve optimal performance as a QB, as much as an extra hour in the film room will do right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: I'm not joking. He is not in great shape. He is in decent shape for an athlete but not even really that good of shape. If he is going to be a QB who relies on escapability and running ability, he would be better if he took his training and diet to the next level. Dude, just stop. You're embarrassing yourself. The trolling isn't working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I'd like to know when being "shredded" made someone a good quarterback? Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow are human specimens and can't hold Brett Favre's cheap beer and dip. And Ben Roethlisberger is a fat lard and has been most of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Yeah that’s not a good look I agree with you but I would not tell him that to his face 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I wish I could go to the camp to help and be all time Center (pause) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 hours ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: I wish Josh would put down the beer and the chicken wings for a few years. He could definitely tone up a bit and it would make him stronger and faster. Could make a big difference on some plays. like that 4th and 1 play at Dallas where he jumped over and bulled the entire DL backwards? Yeah, he wasn't strong enough there......? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-GunJoshAllen17 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, eball said: Dude, just stop. You're embarrassing yourself. The trolling isn't working. Not trolling and thanks but I'll choose to continue to give my opinion despite the embarrassment. He could be in better shape and it is obvious. You might think it doesn't matter but I doubt there is an athlete that will tell their performance isn't at least a bit better when they are in peak physical condition. I love Josh Allen and think he is going to be very good if not great, but I feel like he has a step to take in his conditioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: Not trolling and thanks but I'll choose to continue to give my opinion despite the embarrassment. He could be in better shape and it is obvious. You might think it doesn't matter but I doubt there is an athlete that will tell their performance isn't at least a bit better when they are in peak physical condition. I love Josh Allen and think he is going to be very good if not great, but I feel like he has a step to take in his conditioning. Yeah, I mean, it was a shame how he was hurt all the time last season and....umm... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Who’s the guy in the sports bra on the far right? Sorry, I should've dressed better, my bad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 9 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Or Beane making sure he gets debriefed on their workout. Yes you are 100% right. Or Beane making sure draftee has information from Beane without doing it directly. Could be an end around rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think it’s just because he’s working out with Sam Darnold at USC and Pittman is there too Exactly! Don't read into this too much. Pittman is a decent wr but only in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Who’s the guy in the sports bra on the far right? Oh, heyyyyyy guysss!!! Was just hoping McCaffrey would be around to handle my balls 3 hours ago, rayray808 said: I wish I could go to the camp to help and be all time Center (pause) I called dibs along time ago on permanent center 4 hours ago, MJS said: And Ben Roethlisberger is a fat lard and has been most of his career. Tebow could've been a probowl QB on just name alone... he could've been allpro at a Taysom Hill like roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 I thought I have heard about (one, some, Im not quite sure) high level qbs who liked to have some meat on them to better absorb the hits they take.I could be totally wrong, does anyone else remember hearing something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 OK, 2nd round And, wow, we are desperate for any trickle of news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Another Josh Allen, Michael Pittman Jr. connection... I'm assuming Pittman Jr. is the son of previous NFL running back Michael Pittman. Well Pittman is Fresno State Alumni so Josh may already know Pittman Jr. from the valley connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 14 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Pittman at 54 you think is too high? You think he’ll still be there after pick 87? hes got a round 2-3 grade. He 6’4” 225, 4.5 40 guy with a sub 7 3 cone... very productive in college and has bloodlines. High character guy.... those guys don’t last long. No way he makes it past the first 5-10 picks in round 3. I’d grade him 50-70... With the depth of this class you absolutely could wait until the third or even fourth. I'm sure everyone is going to have different rankings on these kids. What I have truly enjoyed is seeing everyone make their case for their guy. And there have been a lot of varied and justifiable arguments made for a lot of these prospects... it's truly an incredible class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Look, I agree that Josh looks like he could get a bit more shredded and it couldn't hurt, but you literally have no idea what Josh eats as a regular diet. Being seen at a Sabres game drinking with his two TE or eating the occasional Bar Bill does not mean "steady diet of cheap beer and chicken wings". And again...all that said, Josh's biggest development need is still between his ears. An extra hour hitting the weights may not help him achieve optimal performance as a QB, as much as an extra hour in the film room will do right now. I think if Joshs biggest flaw next year is his athleticism then we are in a really good spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 hours ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: Not trolling and thanks but I'll choose to continue to give my opinion despite the embarrassment. He could be in better shape and it is obvious. You might think it doesn't matter but I doubt there is an athlete that will tell their performance isn't at least a bit better when they are in peak physical condition. I love Josh Allen and think he is going to be very good if not great, but I feel like he has a step to take in his conditioning. are you his personal trainer? You have such amazing insight ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think it’s just because he’s working out with Sam Darnold at USC and Pittman is there too I still love the crazy theories people like the OP make up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 22 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Michael Pittman Jr working out with Josh. This makes me think Josh might have a say in if this guy will be our 2nd round pick. Defense round 1? Its definitely an advantage getting familiar now. I know this happens a lot pre season with draft guys. But Pittman is solid and maybe there’s more to the story. Josh has no say in who we pick. Its cool they are working out but Beane will pick who he thinks is nest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 The Bills have heavily invested in state of the art sports medicine departments/facilities. Players/coaches have raved about how much the Pegulas have invested in sports medicine. Yet, a poster is going to rile a bunch of people up, because that poster doesnt like Allen's physique... really folks? You genuinely think this staff would allow Allen to be out of shape? Moreover, the fact that a quick glimpse picture is what we are basing any of this off of. Get off the internet folks, go outdoors, make eye contact with a stranger, idk... just do better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 10:25 AM, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: I'm not joking. He is not in great shape. He is in decent shape for an athlete but not even really that good of shape. If he is going to be a QB who relies on escapability and running ability, he would be better if he took his training and diet to the next level. First of all, it is a ridiculous take, pretending to have any idea what kind of shape he is in right now. Secondly, I would rather he work on his footwork, touch, timing etc right now, rather than doing curls so that he looks good in T shirts for fans who want to see his muscles. This is the off-season, and I am just happy to see he is working on his craft putting in the time to keep becoming a better QB. He has several months before he has to worry about getting back into game time shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 9:34 AM, C.Biscuit97 said: I can see Allen looking like Big Ben in a few years. He’s naturally a big dude and Buffalo has great but terrible for you food and he loves Popeyes. That said, Big Ben (when not in a bathroom) is a really good qb. When seeing him. Hes tall but I don't think weight is an issue. I thought him to be a solid basketball player build. Maybe I just don't know what big is anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Ah yes, you know we're in the thick of the offseason when a thread about two guys standing next to each other at a workout turns into a conspiracy theory and then in that same thread a man is critiquing an elite professional athlete's physique and fitness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Luka said: Ah yes, you know we're in the thick of the offseason when a thread about two guys standing next to each other at a workout turns into a conspiracy theory and then in that same thread a man is critiquing an elite professional athlete's physique and fitness. I see no lies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 The point of the thread was about Josh spending time with a Bills targeted WR. Our Franchise QB, the future some would say of this team, spending time with Pittman. The FO will definitely be briefed on his opinions to help formulate their own.... that being said. It was more Defense #1? How could this thought sway someone’s mock draft.... along those lines. Since about November, I’ve believed Ford Is best at OG and have been leaning OT at 22.... So yes, based off the pic I’m sayin Pittman at 54, that being said, who at 22? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, Luka said: Ah yes, you know we're in the thick of the offseason when a thread about two guys standing next to each other at a workout turns into a conspiracy theory and then in that same thread a man is critiquing an elite professional athlete's physique and fitness. 1) Allen reached the top 1% of football players 2) I bet I have a lower body fat % 3) I like Pittman a lot and his dad is in better shape than Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: 1) Allen reached the top 1% of football players 2) I bet I have a lower body fat % 3) I like Pittman a lot and his dad is in better shape than Allen 1) Top .01% 2) I bet you still look bad in shorts and can't throw a football 80 yards. 3) I think if you and Pittman are going to have any kind of meaningful relationship you should stop lusting after his father. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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