Top WR Prospects

[Chicken Boo]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I'm going to go out and say he downs run a 4.38... probably doesn't even run a 4.44

 

Im just talking speed nothing else about his game

 

You're in for a surprise.

[Buffalo716]

24 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Tre is a very good cornerback, but he is not a shutdown guy.  That term gets thrown around too loosely these days.  The only DB in the league that's close to it is Gilmore.

Gilmore gets beat as much as Tre and tre didn't even give up a regular season TD

Just now, Chicken Boo said:

 

You're in for a surprise.

We will see. I've watched him for 3 years and I don't see 4.38 speed

[Chicken Boo]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Gilmore gets beat as much as Tre and tre didn't even give up a regular season TD

 

He's very good and getting better.  I'm confident in that.  Maybe he proves me wrong this coming season.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Tre is a very good cornerback, but he is not a shutdown guy.  That term gets thrown around too loosely these days.  The only DB in the league that's close to it is Gilmore.

gilmore and Tre are the two best corners in the game. I’m not sure it matters if we call anyone “shut down.” But if we can put two “elite” guys out there at CB, really opens up a lot of what we can do on D. 

[YattaOkasan]

On 1/14/2020 at 4:10 PM, Logic said:

I'd love for the Shenault supporters to share with me what it is they love about him so much.

I admittedly haven't watched him all that much, but everyone seems to say that his best traits are his run-after-catch ability and his versatility, that he can play outside, slot, and in the backfield. Well, I've seen those types of players in the NFL before: Percy Harvin, Cordarelle Patterson, Sammy Watkins. I don't want a 'tweener who does most of his damage AFTER he catches the ball. I want a guy who does his damage by running sick routes and getting open and high-pointing jump balls and scoring receiving touchdowns. A player like Shenault sounds all good and well for a team that already HAS dominant outside receivers -- the Bills do not.

Can Shenault be a true number 1 receiver in the NFL? Or is he a guy you have to scheme up and figure out creative ways to get the ball in his hands? I want a true wide receiver that can dominate AS A WIDE RECEIVER. Is Shenault that?

As I said, I haven't watched him a ton. I'm mostly going off the scouting reports I've read and the discussion of him by various draft analysts and by fans who want the Bills to draft him. What am I missing with this guy?

Consider the draft breakdown tape of Bryan Edmunds. 
 

@thebandit27 I wonder what your thoughts on him are. Looks like a good route runner and a hell of a competitor. 
 

OMFG just remembered there was a cover 1 article on him.

https://www.cover1.net/bryan-edwards-most-underrated-receiver-in-the-nation-nfl-draft/

 

Edited January 17, 2020 by YattaOkasan

[DJB]

I'd rather have Juann Jennings Ten in round 3 then take Shenault in round 1. 

 

Shenault is so overrated.  I think he runs slow at the combine too

[Buffalo_Stampede]

58 minutes ago, DJB said:

I'd rather have Juann Jennings Ten in round 3 then take Shenault in round 1. 

 

Shenault is so overrated.  I think he runs slow at the combine too

I'm not high on WR round 1 either. I'de take 2 after round 1.

[Turk71]

On 1/14/2020 at 9:44 AM, badassgixxer05 said:

whats sick, is there are WR's missing from that top 15 that have the possibility of being #1s and will be there in later rounds. Were going to get a good one. Fingers crossed its the right good one this time around. 

Michael Pittman Jr. is one of those missing. I've seen him on two top 5 wr lists for upcoming draft, didn't even get mentioned among the 20 wrs in this article.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Im hoping for Shenault and Gandy Golden.

 

 

On 1/14/2020 at 12:52 PM, Lurker said:

Shenault's the guy I want.    But in true Bills fashion, I can't get my hopes up--since he'll get taken one slot before our selection if I do...

 

or we pass over him like DK Metcalf

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 1/14/2020 at 1:19 PM, Mountain Man said:

Quintez Cephus from Wisconsin is my sleeper. I know he has serious off field issues, but he is a massive WR but an amazing hands catcher.

 

freaking love that guy, he fights for every catch and yard, hope we get him too.

 

 

[Ayjent]

8 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

He is a physical receiver with great hands and very good acceleration.  A more dynamic Deebo Samuel, if you like what he's done so far.

 

Every Isaiah McKenzie run you saw this year would be a Shenault run in 2020.  A guy with ability to take a quick slant or a WR screen to the house, while also possessing the speed to take the top off a defense.

 

At 6'2" 220lbs, running a 4.38 40, what isn't there to like?  He's built for this team and this offense.

Things to consider:  He doesn't play like an X receiver, he plays best as a slot like receiver underneath and in space.  That is a pro or con depending on what you want and who you want on the field.  His role on the Bills would be Isaiah McKenzie sweep pass, and playing slot like Beasley, something that they aren't missing any effectiveness from in the Offense in my opinion.  Would he be better than both of them? Probably, although whether he navigates space as well as Beasley against NFL coverages or would have the same type of understanding with Allen is not certain.  But that's where I would see him most effective for the Bills, taking a lot of snaps from Beasley still leaving Brown outside and who at No. 3?  If they try putting him outside, I think he struggles on this team.  The fact that they could line him up all over and not exclusively on the outside or inside is nice, but I just don't see him as a threat on the outside against NFL secondaries without improving his abilities on the deep ball.  The Bills would be better suited for a  good size guy that has excellent ball skills, adjust his body and positioning better than defenders even if that player is not as fast and doesn't have the slot abilities.  We also need a guy that is a good to great blocker at WR and is physical - having that may lead to more big plays in the run game and screen game.

 

Things to not like:  He may have speed, but his ability to track the ball and adjust is a negative; he also struggles with making catches in traffic, especially on deep throws.  So that speed to run deep is somewhat tempered by his ability to finish the play on deep throws that may require some adjustment and positioning against defenders.  He also isn't a very good blocker and doesn't show consistent effort when the play isn't coming his way.

 

 

[Allen2Moulds]

2 hours ago, Ayjent said:

Things to consider:  He doesn't play like an X receiver, he plays best as a slot like receiver underneath and in space.  That is a pro or con depending on what you want and who you want on the field.  His role on the Bills would be Isaiah McKenzie sweep pass, and playing slot like Beasley, something that they aren't missing any effectiveness from in the Offense in my opinion.  Would he be better than both of them? Probably, although whether he navigates space as well as Beasley against NFL coverages or would have the same type of understanding with Allen is not certain.  But that's where I would see him most effective for the Bills, taking a lot of snaps from Beasley still leaving Brown outside and who at No. 3?  If they try putting him outside, I think he struggles on this team.  The fact that they could line him up all over and not exclusively on the outside or inside is nice, but I just don't see him as a threat on the outside against NFL secondaries without improving his abilities on the deep ball.  The Bills would be better suited for a  good size guy that has excellent ball skills, adjust his body and positioning better than defenders even if that player is not as fast and doesn't have the slot abilities.  We also need a guy that is a good to great blocker at WR and is physical - having that may lead to more big plays in the run game and screen game.

 

Things to not like:  He may have speed, but his ability to track the ball and adjust is a negative; he also struggles with making catches in traffic, especially on deep throws.  So that speed to run deep is somewhat tempered by his ability to finish the play on deep throws that may require some adjustment and positioning against defenders.  He also isn't a very good blocker and doesn't show consistent effort when the play isn't coming his way.

 

 

That's what scares me most about this guy.  I'm not exactly a resident expert, but that's the overall impression I'm left with.  You summed up how I feel.  Just like some of the older QB's are starting to be overtaken by the young gun slingers.  Who's the next AJ Green in this draft?  I don't say Julio, because he's too rare. 

Edited January 17, 2020 by Allen2Moulds

[Chicken Boo]

3 hours ago, Ayjent said:

Things to consider:  He doesn't play like an X receiver, he plays best as a slot like receiver underneath and in space.  That is a pro or con depending on what you want and who you want on the field.  His role on the Bills would be Isaiah McKenzie sweep pass, and playing slot like Beasley, something that they aren't missing any effectiveness from in the Offense in my opinion.  Would he be better than both of them? Probably, although whether he navigates space as well as Beasley against NFL coverages or would have the same type of understanding with Allen is not certain.  But that's where I would see him most effective for the Bills, taking a lot of snaps from Beasley still leaving Brown outside and who at No. 3?  If they try putting him outside, I think he struggles on this team.  The fact that they could line him up all over and not exclusively on the outside or inside is nice, but I just don't see him as a threat on the outside against NFL secondaries without improving his abilities on the deep ball.  The Bills would be better suited for a  good size guy that has excellent ball skills, adjust his body and positioning better than defenders even if that player is not as fast and doesn't have the slot abilities.  We also need a guy that is a good to great blocker at WR and is physical - having that may lead to more big plays in the run game and screen game.

 

Things to not like:  He may have speed, but his ability to track the ball and adjust is a negative; he also struggles with making catches in traffic, especially on deep throws.  So that speed to run deep is somewhat tempered by his ability to finish the play on deep throws that may require some adjustment and positioning against defenders.  He also isn't a very good blocker and doesn't show consistent effort when the play isn't coming his way.

 

 

 

I disagree on all counts.  Over-evaluating this position is what led many of you to make false assumptions about Metcalf last year and thinking we were just fine with Brown and Beasley going into the season.

 

No offense, but after last year I trust this board about as far as I can throw one of you, when it comes to evaluating WR talent. 

 

I know what I see and truth is, there's a good chance Laviska won't be there when the Bills make their selection. 

Edited January 17, 2020 by Chicken Boo

[Canadian Bills Fan]

On 1/14/2020 at 8:19 PM, thebandit27 said:

Boy I’m shocked at all of the Laviska love. I mean, he’s talented, but he’s about 75% the player that Sammy Watkins was coming out of Clemson...and the way people rage hate Watkins ‘round these parts, I’m astonished that Shenault is so highly regarded.

 

 

Well all the love comes from him at #22...if we were picking 4th like before, maybe it would be a little different

12 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Tre is a very good cornerback, but he is not a shutdown guy.  That term gets thrown around too loosely these days.  The only DB in the league that's close to it is Gilmore.

 

 

You are so wrong. Tre IS  shutdown corner. He is right up there with Gilmore

[BuffaloHokie13]

On 1/14/2020 at 8:19 PM, thebandit27 said:

Boy I’m shocked at all of the Laviska love. I mean, he’s talented, but he’s about 75% the player that Sammy Watkins was coming out of Clemson...and the way people rage hate Watkins ‘round these parts, I’m astonished that Shenault is so highly regarded.

I think he's more physical when it comes to fighting for a catch, coming back to the ball, etc. which our group has been sorely lacking for a while now.

[Allen2Moulds]

18 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

I disagree on all counts.  Over-evaluating this position is what led many of you to make false assumptions about Metcalf last year and thinking we were just fine with Brown and Beasley going into the season.

 

No offense, but after last year I trust this board about as far as I can throw one of you, when it comes to evaluating WR talent. 

 

I know what I see and truth is, there's a good chance Laviska won't be there when the Bills make their selection. 

I was on the Metcalf train last year, but view Metcalf as a completely different style player.  I thought he would've been a perfect match for Josh's skill set.  I think that with a bigger guy, Josh would be more willing to throw a 50/50 ball, instead of overthrowing guys by 10 yds.  

[Ayjent]

20 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

I disagree on all counts.  Over-evaluating this position is what led many of you to make false assumptions about Metcalf last year and thinking we were just fine with Brown and Beasley going into the season.

 

No offense, but after last year I trust this board about as far as I can throw one of you, when it comes to evaluating WR talent. 

 

I know what I see and truth is, there's a good chance Laviska won't be there when the Bills make their selection. 

I’ve watched game snaps (every snap of the game the player was in) from every game I could find on Shenault.  Everything I’m pointing out is in the game footage.  I didn’t say he couldn’t be a good player, but I was just pointing out what concerns me about his fit on the team and where I see flaws in his game and where the strengths were.  People may differ in opinion, but I was not impressed on his deep routes where there was close coverage.  He didn’t win or finish the play as often as you’d like to see and his adjustment to off target passes is in need of a lot of improvement if he is going to be an outside receiver, especially with a QB like Josh and weather conditions like Buffalo.  He did draw flags though.  This board is full of opinions and some are going to agree some are going to disagree.  My opinion is pretty informed based off watching him play. That’s all I have to go on and honestly I’m surprised how many people are on the train to draft him after watching him play.

 

 

What is it that impresses?  His ability to run a deep in or his ability to settle into space under zone coverage?  That’s about the best things I’ve seen him do prior to the catch.  He doesn’t engage his blocks very long if he even engages them, and can’t be counted on to hold a block for any duration. 

 

This the most impressive game, but it’s not all snaps

His two biggest plays were a nice run after catch on a slant/curl route he took to the house, and an on the money throw down the sideline against a cover two zone with the safety late in coming over.  But you see the same things in tight coverage he doesn’t win the ball, and his failure to position and adjust to the ball on a couple of throws where coverage was near allowed the pass breakup.  In the NFL that coverage is going to be a lot more consistent and physical, especially outside where the best DBs will be lined up against him. That’s why I’m saying he would thrive in a slot position in the nfl, but not an X.

 

I wanted an upgrade at WR last year, and this year is just a great year for the position.  I just happen to think there are better options for the Bills than Shenault, and that Shenault is a 2nd -3rd Round talent that is projecting as a 1st in a lot of mocks.  His stock may rise or fall on his combine, but I think the best assessments of talent are usually done in January, unless major red flags come out in the combine. Just because DK Metcalf happened to have a pretty good year probably says a lot about his skill set being a good fit with the team and Wilson as his QB.  WR is so dependent on so many other players doing their jobs, fit is always a good part of success when it comes to the position.  That’s why I’m just not interested in Shenault unless Beasley isn’t in the Bills’ plans for the future.  If that’s the case I can get on that train.  They can upgrade from Beasley, but it doesn’t move the needle that much on improving the need for a big outside threat. 

Edited January 18, 2020 by Ayjent

[Coach Tuesday]

I was high on Shenault but if he doesn’t block on running plays forget it, I’m out.  That’s really just a deal breaker for me.

[Teddy KGB]

On 1/16/2020 at 9:21 PM, Chicken Boo said:

 

Tre is a very good cornerback, but he is not a shutdown guy.  That term gets thrown around too loosely these days.  The only DB in the league that's close to it is Gilmore.

Imagine thinking this is true ?
 

Both corners had one close to bad game all season long ??‍♂️

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I was high on Shenault but if he doesn’t block on running plays forget it, I’m out.  That’s really just a deal breaker for me.

Where are these blocking questions coming from ?   I agree with you if true.   I know my man Tee Higgins can do both.  

Edited January 18, 2020 by Teddy KGB

[Mat68]

On 1/17/2020 at 6:46 AM, Ayjent said:

Things to consider:  He doesn't play like an X receiver, he plays best as a slot like receiver underneath and in space.  That is a pro or con depending on what you want and who you want on the field.  His role on the Bills would be Isaiah McKenzie sweep pass, and playing slot like Beasley, something that they aren't missing any effectiveness from in the Offense in my opinion.  Would he be better than both of them? Probably, although whether he navigates space as well as Beasley against NFL coverages or would have the same type of understanding with Allen is not certain.  But that's where I would see him most effective for the Bills, taking a lot of snaps from Beasley still leaving Brown outside and who at No. 3?  If they try putting him outside, I think he struggles on this team.  The fact that they could line him up all over and not exclusively on the outside or inside is nice, but I just don't see him as a threat on the outside against NFL secondaries without improving his abilities on the deep ball.  The Bills would be better suited for a  good size guy that has excellent ball skills, adjust his body and positioning better than defenders even if that player is not as fast and doesn't have the slot abilities.  We also need a guy that is a good to great blocker at WR and is physical - having that may lead to more big plays in the run game and screen game.

 

Things to not like:  He may have speed, but his ability to track the ball and adjust is a negative; he also struggles with making catches in traffic, especially on deep throws.  So that speed to run deep is somewhat tempered by his ability to finish the play on deep throws that may require some adjustment and positioning against defenders.  He also isn't a very good blocker and doesn't show consistent effort when the play isn't coming his way.

 

 

I think that's an over simplification of him as a wr.  He played all over the formation.  I'm not a scout but from what I read he is exactly what you want from an X.  He is what people wanted Cordelle Patterson to become. 

 

I dont see them getting Jeudy or Lamb, outside of them every prospect is going to have something.  For me he is too unique not to take a shot with. 

 

Worst case scenario he is Cordelle Patterson. He can replace Robert's on the roster, also add a big play dimension to the offense and replace McKenzie.  2 roster spots just opened up else where.  

 

I think Shenault is going to be very good.  I like his after the catch running ability.  Given the opportunity to learn a position he could really flourish.  This time of year I learn height weight speed.  Barring prerequisite protection.  Round 1 I'm looking for the freakiest dudes available.

[Ayjent]

1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

I think that's an over simplification of him as a wr.  He played all over the formation.  I'm not a scout but from what I read he is exactly what you want from an X.  He is what people wanted Cordelle Patterson to become. 

 

I dont see them getting Jeudy or Lamb, outside of them every prospect is going to have something.  For me he is too unique not to take a shot with. 

 

Worst case scenario he is Cordelle Patterson. He can replace Robert's on the roster, also add a big play dimension to the offense and replace McKenzie.  2 roster spots just opened up else where.  

 

I think Shenault is going to be very good.  I like his after the catch running ability.  Given the opportunity to learn a position he could really flourish.  This time of year I learn height weight speed.  Barring prerequisite protection.  Round 1 I'm looking for the freakiest dudes available.

I posted videos that I’ve watched of Shenault.  I’m not relying on others scouting reports to assess what i see.  I value all around abilities and think blocking is a big deal for WRs, bc you are likely blocking on more plays than you are catching a pass.  A great WR should be really good at both.  I won’t debate that the ability to make the catch and get open are most important attributes, but being a liability in blocking kind of negates the players effectiveness and makes a coach consider pulling him out on runs and signaling to the other team that you might be running or that you won’t typically run in that players direction. You can see his effort blocking on full display in those clips.  Michael Pittman Jr is an excellent blocker like he enjoys it, Tee Higgins and Justin Jefferson are also very willing blockers, as are a lot of other top tier guys in the draft.  Shenault is one of the worst I’ve seen of all the top prospects.

 

Again I’m basing my opinion off of games I’ve seen, but I also haven’t seen him win on contested catches and make good adjustments to off throws, especially deep ones with any type of consistency.  One thing that drives me crazy is when a WR doesn’t come back to a deep to intermediate ball when it is clear defenders are going to make a play on the ball and is likely to be broken up/intercepted if no adjustment is made.  There are several examples in those games I posted earlier in this thread where he doesn’t adjust to the ball and it is broken up.  

 

He is best underneath coverage in space and on come back routes.  That’s where his production came from.  Sure he had a couple of plays where he was open down the sideline and the coverage wasn’t there for a big play - that’s nothing to dismiss.  What he does with coverage present is what bothers me.  

 

He’s built like a big RB with speed and I get the attraction to a player like that, but he is not an outside guy in the NFL if he can’t be more consistent with deep balls and tight coverage. He’s the type of guy that’ll put his hands waist high to make a catch in stride with tight coverage rather than slow down to out maneuver and out position the DB to make sure he gets the catch. 

Edited January 18, 2020 by Ayjent

[Bills Fan of St Augustine]

I like Tee. Only thing I hope we don't do is trade up again. Too many highPo guys likely available when we pick and then again in later rounds. Two Wrs in top 4 picks wouldn't disappoint me. All I want is speed, hands, size and determination (LOL). 

[Chicken Boo]

2 hours ago, Ayjent said:

I posted videos that I’ve watched of Shenault. 

 

Here we go.  The "he doesn't block, we don't need him" narrative. "He doesn't make contested catches".  Put it up there with Metcalf's 3-cone and Deshaun Watson only throwing 49mph at the combine.  Everyone is an expert.  In the Co-USC video you posted, he won a contested catch in the 2nd or 3rd clip.  A catch in the endzone on a very poor pass.  I don't know where you're getting this from?  Last year it was "Metcalf can't get separation at the NFL level."  A far more damning criticism than one's willingness to block, and it was false.

 

Laviska Shenault is going to shine in the NFL.  He can catch, he can run after the catch, he has speed.  Stop complicating this. He's an obvious talent.  It's as plain as day.

4 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

Imagine thinking this is true ?
 

Both corners had one close to bad game all season long ??‍♂️

Where are these blocking questions coming from ?   I agree with you if true.   I know my man Tee Higgins can do both.  

 

It is true.  Tre is very good.  I don't throw the term shut down around to just anyone.  Revis and Sherman are the last shutdown corners this league has seen.  They did it for an extended period of time and QBs avoided their side of the field.  Tre ain't that.  Not yet.

 

And take the blocking questions with a grain of salt.  Every year it's a new ridiculous claim to NOT draft offensive talent on this board.  It's weird.

[Ayjent]

1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Here we go.  The "he doesn't block, we don't need him" narrative. "He doesn't make contested catches".  Put it up there with Metcalf's 3-cone and Deshaun Watson only throwing 49mph at the combine.  Everyone is an expert.  In the Co-USC video you posted, he won a contested catch in the 2nd or 3rd clip.  A catch in the endzone on a very poor pass.  I don't know where you're getting this from?  Last year it was "Metcalf can't get separation at the NFL level."  A far more damning criticism than one's willingness to block, and it was false.

 

Laviska Shenault is going to shine in the NFL.  He can catch, he can run after the catch, he has speed.  Stop complicating this. He's an obvious talent.  It's as plain as day.

 

It is true.  Tre is very good.  I don't throw the term shut down around to just anyone.  Revis and Sherman are the last shutdown corners this league has seen.  They did it for an extended period of time and QBs avoided their side of the field.  Tre ain't that.  Not yet.

 

And take the blocking questions with a grain of salt.  Every year it's a new ridiculous claim to NOT draft offensive talent on this board.  It's weird.

The contested catch you reference was ruled incomplete. To be honest, though, it was his most impressive effort and nearly a great catch.  No dispute from me on that one, but that effort and ability wasn’t demonstrated anywhere else despite the opportunities in the other games I posted.  He has talent, I’m not disputing that, and I’ve made that clear.  Just dont see him as a successful outside WR for the Bills and I don’t like what he has on tape blocking.  Blocking is not weird btw, it's a big part of the game and can be the difference between a big stop one way and a big play the other.

 

 I fail to see what other people’s evaluations of other players in other years has to do with what I’ve stated other than being a cop out.  I wish you’d try to respect the effort to asses than to dig in on an opinion with little support beyond one play.  Maybe you do have more to support it, and Im open to information and how it could change my view.  I keep watching more games of more players, including Shenault.  Bring on the evidence of how he does what I say he doesn’t do well.  I’ve put it out there and you can take your view and form your own opinion but please watch the games against CSU, Oregon, and Nebraska if you haven’t already and tell me you have no qualms with his skills that I’ve pointed out.

 

We are all Bills fans no need to try to make it a battle and be dismissive.  I simply am pointing people to seeing what us fans might want to get excited about when the Bills pick and what to hope for.  In the end it’s all fun and a waste of time. 

Edited January 18, 2020 by Ayjent

[Solomon Grundy]

I think I might want Steve Smith Jr in the room when I’m evaluating my prospects at receiver 

[Lurker]

10 hours ago, Ayjent said:

 

But you see the same things in tight coverage he doesn’t win the ball, and his failure to position and adjust to the ball on a couple of throws where coverage was near allowed the pass breakup.  In the NFL that coverage is going to be a lot more consistent and physical, especially outside where the best DBs will be lined up against him. That’s why I’m saying he would thrive in a slot position in the nfl, but not an X.

 

Thanks for deflating my bubble somewhat, bub!   

 

Seriously, I agree with your points on these videos (which is why looking only at highlight compilations is fools gold).   He didn't seem to have natural WR route seperation skills--more like a RB playing wideout.    Very good athlete, but very raw as as a WR--surprisingly slow first step and not much disguise in his route running.  As you mentioned, pretty meh as a blocker.   On the other hand, Colorado's offense was getting manhandled in a lot of those games.  

 

The player he reminded me of, actually, was Stevie Johnson...

[TigerJ]

I like what I'm reading about Laviska, but it doesn't make sense to get locked into a single player.  If the draft doesn't fall the way you expect, he might not be available at 22 or Buffalo might be compelled because of value to go in a different direction.  They might be picking a WR later in the draft.  So, If Laviska is gone, who else is there?

[Victory Formation]

On 1/14/2020 at 1:31 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

With every top prospect over 6' we really cant go wrong.

 

I dont think we'll have a shot at Jeudy or Lamb since we're picking at 22.

 

I wouldnt mind Shenault at 22, and another WR in the 4th or so. Desperately need to find hungry playmakers to put around Josh.

Laviska is better than Lamb. I think there is a real chance CeeDee is there at 22. Think it comes down to Lamb vs Ruggs vs Jefferson when we pick. 

[Coach Tuesday]

4 hours ago, the skycap said:

I think I might want Steve Smith Jr in the room when I’m evaluating my prospects at receiver 

Odd choice.  He once clubbed a teammate nearly to death with a folding chair during a film room session.  Not the guy I’d pick to be put in a room with!

[DuckyBoys]

27 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Odd choice.  He once clubbed a teammate nearly to death with a folding chair during a film room session.  Not the guy I’d pick to be put in a room with!

pound for pound a true nfl bad ass

[Gambit]

1 hour ago, Sunshower said:

Laviska is better than Lamb. I think there is a real chance CeeDee is there at 22. Think it comes down to Lamb vs Ruggs vs Jefferson when we pick. 

You're outta your mind if you think Lamb lasts to 22. Jeudy is the only WR that should maybe be taken before Lamb.

[Floydboy12]

Agree on the Cephus kid from Wisky. 

Also, Lynn Bowden Jr is gonna make somebody a helluva get in the 3rd round or so. I'd love for somebody like Chaisson or Epenesa to fall into our lap in the first. Too many good receivers in this draft to take one in the first imo. Unless Ruggs fell to us. 

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Floydboy12 said:

Agree on the Cephus kid from Wisky. 

Also, Lynn Bowden Jr is gonna make somebody a helluva get in the 3rd round or so. I'd love for somebody like Chaisson or Epenesa to fall into our lap in the first. Too many good receivers in this draft to take one in the first imo. Unless Ruggs fell to us. 

Bowden won’t pass the mc Beane DNA test. He’s a mess.

[Victory Formation]

10 hours ago, Gambit said:

You're outta your mind if you think Lamb lasts to 22. Jeudy is the only WR that should maybe be taken before Lamb.

Shenault is better than Lamb.

[Kangaxx]

If K'Lavon Chaisson falls to us and Higgins is gone I think we'll forgo a WR in the first round and see who falls to the second round. Not really sold on Laviska Shenault for our first round pick. Think he has a lot of potential, but he's quite raw and has injury problems that may get worse when he gets to the NFL due to playing style. 

[Dkollidas]

I’m happy with drafting any of Higgins Shenault or Jefferson at 22.

 

I like Chaisson & Gross-Matos, but I think the edge guys will go very early. Could see a bunch of teams go edge between 5-20.

Detroit they move down to 5 or so.

7. Carolina 

11. NY Jets

13. Indianapolis

14. Tampa Bay

16. Atlanta

18. Miami

[Buffalo716]

Im going to give out my bold proclamation and say Shenault doesn't go in the top 20

 

He runs a 4.5 at the combine and falls down the board 

 

He has great YAC skills and is super tough but there are more polished and faster guys . I think he is on the board when the bills pick

[Warren Zevon]

Shenault & Gandy-Golden 

[Special K]

Not sure if he has been mentioned in this long thread, but I like Gabriel Davis from UCF...... big, strong, hands-catcher, great route runner....not the fastest, but fast enough and he’s around 6-4.

 

I believe he’s expected to go late first round...the kind of weapon this offense needs!!

[Floydboy12]

18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Bowden won’t pass the mc Beane DNA test. He’s a mess.

 

Wouldn't hurt him to try to control his emotions better. But he's never been in any kind of disciplinary or legal trouble to my knowledge. I'd rather have a fierce competitor than a diva.