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Ruggs. Easily the best combination of speed, COD skills, hands, and route running.

 

There isn’t a thing he can’t do.

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We'll see after the combine.  Looks like a super deep wr class maybe the best since the 2014 class.  Might see some really good players fall into rounds 3 or even later.  Shenault looks like a great fit for  creative coordinator  I imagine he'd be a stud on the Saints for example.   Higgins is awful thin  looks kind of slow to me  I'm curious how he fares at the combine

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The good news, according to the just-released CBS Sports mock, is that Shenault will be there. The bad news is they say the Bills will take an edge rusher:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-patriots-take-tom-bradys-replacement-49ers-add-another-athletic-tight-end/

 

22. Terrell Lewis - Edge, Alabama, 6'5", 252 lb.

 

PROSPECT RNK

40th

POSITION RNK

6th

 

"Jerry Hughes is 31, Shaq Lawson's contract is up and Trent Murphy's contract is set to expire after next season. Yes, the Bills need a deep threat for Josh Allen but this class is so stocked at that position that Buffalo can find big-play targets throughout the draft. Meanwhile, the 'D' was a respectable 13th in pass rush, according to Football Outsiders and Lewis is a long, explosive edge rusher who was impressive in '19."

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6 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said:

I liked him a lot early season, but the more i've watched him this year in big games the more im scared. He disappears and his slender build also has me afraid of injuries at next level. Hes not a speed guy so needs to use his body to be physical and make contested catches, but i just cant see him out muscling a true physical cover corner.

How many of those are there?

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39 minutes ago, Buffalophil1948 said:

Epenesa or Shenault. If they are both there at 22 what do you think Beane would do? I think Epenesa would win that battle 

I think with the WR depth vs pass rush depth you take epenesa there unless there is a big gap between shenault and the next WR on their board 

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3 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I was thinking it was because he hasn’t declared yet, but I could be wrong.


Honestly, I didn’t even think of that - and you’re probably right. Thank you.

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6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think with the WR depth vs pass rush depth you take epenesa there unless there is a big gap between shenault and the next WR on their board 

I agree, but there is just so much speculation as what could happen.  I believe what happens in free agency will help shape this pick

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7 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Double down.  Take Shenault in Round 1.

 

Comeback with another in the later rounds

This ^^^^^ please 🙏

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Boy I’m shocked at all of the Laviska love. I mean, he’s talented, but he’s about 75% the player that Sammy Watkins was coming out of Clemson...and the way people rage hate Watkins ‘round these parts, I’m astonished that Shenault is so highly regarded.

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3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

Boy I’m shocked at all of the Laviska love. I mean, he’s talented, but he’s about 75% the player that Sammy Watkins was coming out of Clemson...and the way people rage hate Watkins ‘round these parts, I’m astonished that Shenault is so highly regarded.

Bandit, what is your opinion on CeeDee Lamb?

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Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Bandit, what is your opinion on CeeDee Lamb?


I like Lamb a lot. From my initial work ups he’s my WR3 behind Ruggs (2) and Jeudy (1). I’d take any of those 3 in round 1 without hesitation.

 

After that I’ve got a group of Higgins/Reagor/Aiyuk as my next tier. There’s a 50% chance that all are on the clock when we pick as far as I’m guessing.

 

We’ll see how things go come March when I go back to school on these guys for real.

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Just now, thebandit27 said:


I like Lamb a lot. From my initial work ups he’s my WR3 behind Ruggs (2) and Jeudy (1). I’d take any of those 3 in round 1 without hesitation.

 

After that I’ve got a group of Higgins/Reagor/Aiyuk as my next tier. There’s a 50% chance that all are on the clock when we pick as far as I’m guessing.

 

We’ll see how things go come March when I go back to school on these guys for real.

I see DeAndre Hopkins when I watch him.

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7 hours ago, Lurker said:

Shenault's the guy I want.    But in true Bills fashion, I can't get my hopes up--since he'll get taken one slot before our selection if I do...

 

Or he'll be passed on by Beane for a DB.

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9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I thought he was cleared, no?

He was. But I'm sure that it even reached that stage will mean questions are asked. 

 

I'd love the Bills to draft him, it's looks like a raw version of Mike Evans to me

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11 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

 

Looks like we have an early entry into "UDFA Fan Favorite" for this year!

 

Da'Rick, Move on over!

He'll be drafted. Probably round 4 or 5 is my guess. But I can't see him going undrafted. 

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11 hours ago, thebandit27 said:


I like Lamb a lot. From my initial work ups he’s my WR3 behind Ruggs (2) and Jeudy (1). I’d take any of those 3 in round 1 without hesitation.

 

After that I’ve got a group of Higgins/Reagor/Aiyuk as my next tier. There’s a 50% chance that all are on the clock when we pick as far as I’m guessing.

 

We’ll see how things go come March when I go back to school on these guys for real.

I'm always a little weary of this Big12 WRs like Lamb - they are allergic to playing pass defense in that conference.  Doesn't mean he's not good, but he's not playing against anything like he'll see in the NFL in terms of talent or scheme. 

 

I've watched a lot on Higgins and at first I didn't like what I saw just from build and route running, then I saw a big lanky guy that wasn't afraid of contact or blocking and actually could fight off defenders after the catch, but that was just watching highlights.  Then I went and watched about 5 games with every offensive snap, and soured on him being a No. 1.  He's a good player but he is not going to be a legit No. 1 option on an NFL team - he isn't really even that on his college team.  That type of player will be available later in the draft IMO with such a deep and talented class of WRs.  I know Pittman Jr projects to be a bit slower and is less explosive in space, but he is a physical specimen that has great adjustment to the ball, is a strong runner after the catch, makes a lot of contested catches positioning himself in the best spot to win the ball, is a great blocker, and plays hard on every snap.  He isn't the best at getting separation and I think that and his speed are why he is projected as a day 2 guy, but if I had to choose between Higgins and Pittman Jr it would be Pittman Jr all day.

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16 minutes ago, Ayjent said:

I'm always a little weary of this Big12 WRs like Lamb - they are allergic to playing pass defense in that conference.  Doesn't mean he's not good, but he's not playing against anything like he'll see in the NFL in terms of talent or scheme. 

 

I've watched a lot on Higgins and at first I didn't like what I saw just from build and route running, then I saw a big lanky guy that wasn't afraid of contact or blocking and actually could fight off defenders after the catch, but that was just watching highlights.  Then I went and watched about 5 games with every offensive snap, and soured on him being a No. 1.  He's a good player but he is not going to be a legit No. 1 option on an NFL team - he isn't really even that on his college team.  That type of player will be available later in the draft IMO with such a deep and talented class of WRs.  I know Pittman Jr projects to be a bit slower and is less explosive in space, but he is a physical specimen that has great adjustment to the ball, is a strong runner after the catch, makes a lot of contested catches positioning himself in the best spot to win the ball, is a great blocker, and plays hard on every snap.  He isn't the best at getting separation and I think that and his speed are why he is projected as a day 2 guy, but if I had to choose between Higgins and Pittman Jr it would be Pittman Jr all day.


Yeah, I have Pittman on my list for my next round since I didn’t get to him for more than a cursory look.

 

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11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Pittman

I think for a team like the Bills that wants to be tougher than its opponents and with a need for a guy that adjusts very well to targets that might not be right on the money, and blocks with aggression and great effectiveness in screen and run game he is a really good fit.

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Just now, Ayjent said:

I think for a team like the Bills that wants to be tougher than its opponents and with a need for a guy that adjusts very well to targets that might not be right on the money, and blocks with aggression and great effectiveness in screen and run game he is a really good fit.

Agree. It may just be the USC connection but I’d love to have the next Robert Woods on the Bills. Pittman catches everything and has an excellent family NFL blood line...which more times than not seems to be a recipe for discipline and success, something McBeane are looking for.

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I want Laviska Shenault at #22, then would target Michael Pittman or Chase Claypool in the later rounds. Might be willing to trade up into the late 3rd to land Claypool (to pair with Shenault, John Brown, and Beasley) along with an edge rusher/RB/CB with our other two Day 1-2 picks. 

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1 minute ago, thebandit27 said:


Yeah, I have Pittman on my list for my next round since I didn’t get to him for more than a cursory look.

 

He's not a 1st rounder unless he blows the doors off the combine.  Probably a late 2nd to early 3rd with all of the talent at the position in this draft. 

 

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Agree. It may just be the USC connection but I’d love to have the next Robert Woods on the Bills. Pittman catches everything and has an excellent family NFL blood line...which more times than not seems to be a recipe for discipline and success, something McBeane are looking for.

His father loved contact too and was a big part of the Bucs superbowl run -  he plays like his father did but at WR.

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12 hours ago, thebandit27 said:


I like Lamb a lot. From my initial work ups he’s my WR3 behind Ruggs (2) and Jeudy (1). I’d take any of those 3 in round 1 without hesitation.

 

After that I’ve got a group of Higgins/Reagor/Aiyuk as my next tier. There’s a 50% chance that all are on the clock when we pick as far as I’m guessing.

 

We’ll see how things go come March when I go back to school on these guys for real.

Thoughts on Shenault? 

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I'm sure I'll be able to talk myself into it if Shenault is ultimately the guy, but he doesn't look like a Round 1 prospect to me. I would tend to agree with Reid's scouting report of him at TDN, but I apparently just don't value what he sees the way he does.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/laviska-shenault-jr/NLQE1jFVo5

  • He could be an AJ Brown type threat after the catch. I was similarly low on Brown last year and looks like I was probably wrong about him, so maybe I'm wrong about Shenault as well.
  • Love the fact that he has experience lining up all over the place
  • Seems to have good hands
  • I think he has a very long ways to go if he's going to be our X receiver; right now, his only move to beat press coverage is to try to just sprint past them on the outside and I don't think he has the speed to get away with that in the NFL.
  • His route running is pretty poor; his out routes drift up the field, he doesn't really sell his cuts, just isn't very good at beating his man when he doesn't have the speed advantage. It's possible that this is a result of never having one specific role in the offense, but it's a concern nonetheless (and a similar concern that I had with AJ Brown, which ultimately didn't hold him back as a rookie).
  • He doesn't want to block anybody/doesn't really show much effort when the play is designed to go to someone else.

 

Of the guys I've watched a decent amount of, I currently like (in this order):

  1. Henry Ruggs
  2. CeeDee Lamb
  3. Jerry Jeudy
  4. Jalen Reagor
  5. Michael Pittman

I'm just lukewarm on Higgins and Jefferson at the moment and pretty skeptical of Shenault. And after those top-tier prospects, I like the little I've seen of Denzel Mims, Bryan Edwards, Jauan Jennings, and Van Jefferson.

 

Edit: And re: the Shenault-Sammy Watkins comparison, the similarities basically end for me at the various ways they were involved in their offense. I don't think Shenault has Sammy's speed, ability to beat press coverage, or route running when he was coming out of Clemson.

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3 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said:

I want Laviska Shenault at #22, then would target Michael Pittman or Chase Claypool in the later rounds. Might be willing to trade up into the late 3rd to land Claypool (to pair with Shenault, John Brown, and Beasley) along with an edge rusher/RB/CB with our other two Day 1-2 picks. 

Shenault looks like a Split End/Slot guy to me, a very big one, but that seems to be where he would be most effective because he wasn't a very good receiver on deep routes or on contested catches, and he doesn't adjust well to the deep ball to position himself.  He's best working underneath and in space.  If you are looking to take snaps away from Beasley and upgrade the slot - I think he's the guy.  If they try playing him outside - he will be a disappointment, especially if Josh doesn't improve his accuracy on deep throws.  I look at it from how does he fit on the Bills and with their QB and I just don't see a good fit unless they want to move on from Beasley.

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