Penfield45 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I wouldn't hate this...BUT: Did anyone come away this year thinking JuJu is a true #1 WR? Lets not forget he looked great when AB was drawing double coverage every game, but as a #1 he didn't prove he could hang. I know there were challenges between the injury and QB situation, but at this point he is still unproven as a legit #1 because of that and when he wasn't hurt he didnt really have a lot of success. And if Pitt was willing to trade him after losing AB, wouldn't that further raise question marks about their belief in him as a #1 WR? if were trading a 1st round pick for a WR go get OBJ and let him take the #1 spot for the next 6-8 years here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1. Best available WR or Edge. 2. Best available of who ylou didnt pick with the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: The Athletic has him at a 4.55. ESPN has him at a 4.59. WalterFootball has him at a 4.52. He's not an elite speed guy at all. Nobody views him that way. Feel free to tag me if he actually is in the 4.3's. I think people tend to think WRs are faster than they really are and he's no different. To me it doesn’t matter if he’s 4.55 or 4.59. The two best WR in the league, Hopkins and Thomas, both ran a 4.57. Josh needs a guy with size, hands and hops to go up and get contested catches, and create separation. Speed is great but we also have Smoke. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: I can see us moving up for a WR, I just don't see us moving for an Edge. With Shaq leaving in FA and Murphy not playing well - I think that gets solved in FA or at least we take a strong shot at it. Beane just can't leave that spot open until the draft. To move up for WR, would you give up this years #22, our 3rd and next year's 1? KC gave up #27, #91 and the following year's first for #10 I would that would leave us #10, 1-2nd, 1- 4th, 2-5ths and 3-6ths and I bet we can move back into the 3rd and draft in rounds 1 - 5 I honestly think Jeudy is the only one worth trading up for that high. And he won't last to 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Gambit said: I honestly think Jeudy is the only one worth trading up for that high. And he won't last to 10. The top 5 are all excellent I would take any of them, yes I have preferences and you only need to get in between 10 and 19 to secure 2 or 3 of them. I was just trying to illustrate the cost and you might even find that the Raiders, who also own #10 might be willing to play ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I would rather Buy OL DL LBer Draft QB WRs CBs RBs TEs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Feeling pretty good about some positions going into the offseason For instance MUCH rather see our two young TE's get burn and cult loose kroft and company.......we had a TE in Sweeney that deserved to play this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The draft network's mock simulator is up to date, for anyone interested. https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine Good?? 1 - Tee Higgins WR 2 - JK Dobbins RB 3 - Jabari Zuniga EDGE 4 - Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisc. Only did 4 rounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: if were trading a 1st round pick for a WR go get OBJ and let him take the #1 spot for the next 6-8 years here Would you really give up a #1 for OBJ? Dude's a HUGE head case. 2nd or lower. Again, Giants were lambasted for trading him last year... They Giants knew what they had and jettisoned it... (especially after the whole Pitt/AB fiasco). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 BPA other than QB or RB please. If our board has a QB or RB as BPA when we draft... try to trade the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I really hate honing in on one player....but Shenault is my guy or bust right now....... this guy later works too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: this guy later works too Lets get them both 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 52 minutes ago, hjnick said: Good?? 1 - Tee Higgins WR 2 - JK Dobbins RB Feels like a Whaley draft and I love it. Dobbins and Singletary would be fun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: To me it doesn’t matter if he’s 4.55 or 4.59. The two best WR in the league, Hopkins and Thomas, both ran a 4.57. Josh needs a guy with size, hands and hops to go up and get contested catches, and create separation. Speed is great but we also have Smoke. I totally agree. I’m just saying people expecting him to be possibly the fastest non-Ruggs WR in the class are probably gonna be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Henry Ruggs-WR Alabama Brandon Aiyuk-WR Arizona State Laviska Shenault-WR Colorado Tee Higgins-WR Clemson Joshua Jones-OT Houston Austin Jackson-OT USC Yetur Gross Matos-DE Penn State Curtis Weaver-DE Boise St Kristian Fulton-CB LSU Jeff Gladney-CB TCU the only prospects I’m entertaining at 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I totally agree. I’m just saying people expecting him to be possibly the fastest non-Ruggs WR in the class are probably gonna be disappointed. I would say Hamler is next speed wise 4 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Henry Ruggs-WR Alabama Brandon Aiyuk-WR Arizona State Laviska Shenault-WR Colorado Tee Higgins-WR Clemson Joshua Jones-OT Houston Austin Jackson-OT USC Yetur Gross Matos-DE Penn State Curtis Weaver-DE Boise St Kristian Fulton-CB LSU Jeff Gladney-CB TCU the only prospects I’m entertaining at 22 I don’t watch much PAC 12 but is Austin Jackson any good? Epenesa put him in a body bag in the Holiday Bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Pick 22 fun fact: Most likely slot for Cleveland to overdraft a ***** QB prospect. Yes, that was so bizarre that Brady Quinn, Weeden and Manuel were all the 22nd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, hjnick said: Would you really give up a #1 for OBJ? Dude's a HUGE head case. 2nd or lower. Again, Giants were lambasted for trading him last year... They Giants knew what they had and jettisoned it... (especially after the whole Pitt/AB fiasco). He’s a head case, but not a bad teammate. He’s also a hard worker. I wouldn’t be shocked if we inquired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: To me it doesn’t matter if he’s 4.55 or 4.59. The two best WR in the league, Hopkins and Thomas, both ran a 4.57. Josh needs a guy with size, hands and hops to go up and get contested catches, and create separation. Speed is great but we also have Smoke. Imagine if Higgins was going up for that ball on the heave from Allen in OT? That’s exactly what we need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Hebert19 said: 1. Best available WR or Edge. 2. Best available of who ylou didnt pick with the first. I think you gotta consider OT in the first as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Imagine if Higgins was going up for that ball on the heave from Allen in OT? That’s exactly what we need. I honestly haven’t seen a lot of Higgins. I remember thinking he was great in the playoff either last year or year before. He wasn’t that impressive vs osu but he was out the whole 1st half. I look forward to seeing him vs LSU secondary which has NFL talent as well. I believe his nfl comp has been AJ Green - kind of tall and skinny . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I honestly haven’t seen a lot of Higgins. I remember thinking he was great in the playoff either last year or year before. He wasn’t that impressive vs osu but he was out the whole 1st half. I look forward to seeing him vs LSU secondary which has NFL talent as well. I believe his nfl comp has been AJ Green - kind of tall and skinny . Yes, that's a perfect way to describe Tee. He's very tall and thin with an extremely long stride. He doesn't have break away speed like Tyreek Hill, but his size is impressive. I'd only consider him @ 22 if Shenault is gone. Or wait for Jefferson in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yes, that's a perfect way to describe Tee. He's very tall and thin with an extremely long stride. He doesn't have break away speed like Tyreek Hill, but his size is impressive. I'd only consider him @ 22 if Shenault is gone. Or wait for Jefferson in the 2nd. I dont see Jefferson lasting to our 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 As of now............... The number one choice at 22 is Laviska Shenault, but if he is gone.................. Tyler Johnson will skyrocket up the charts in the coming weeks at would be a great get at 22 if LS is gone. But EVERYTHING will probably change up to draft day and the Bills will select a player at 22 who we never even thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Miss out on the first batch of wr’s and beef up the defense again ? 22. Buffalo Bills (10-6) K’Lavon Chaisson, EDGE/OLB, LSU Chaisson (6-4, 250 pounds) has a great name for an elite, active defender who chases after quarterbacks and running backs alike. He has 6.5 sacks during LSU’s run to the CFP national championship game, and like several teammates, his draft stock has shot up throughout the season. He is a bit of a hybrid player who can work well in the Bills' 4-3 to replace retiring Lorenzo Alexander on the weak side. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/nfl-mock-draft-2020-tua-tagovailoa-dolphins-eagles-saints-patriots/bn5x1suc7s971o7qk15lcnl4q Like Tre’Davious White before him, Chaisson was awarded jersey number 18 at LSU, hence he is definitely a high character guy as well. I could see this, as much as we need offensive help. Edited January 7, 2020 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, BBills88 said: I dont see Jefferson lasting to our 2nd round pick. Really? I would be surprised if he’s not there. Not a dynamic athlete. Don’t think he will test well. Not saying I don’t think he will be good in the NFL just thinking about where he will he drafted Edited January 7, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 10 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I think you gotta consider OT in the first as well... Agree if there is a stud there for sure. I wouldn't be surprised however if we patch that hole in FA again this year. Ty is very good backup and ford can play it if needed. Take a mid rounder to groom or pick one up in free agency is my preference. DE and WR bigger needs in draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Really? I would be surprised if he’s not there. Not a dynamic athlete. Don’t think he will test well. Not saying I don’t think he will be good in the NFL just thinking about where he will he drafted Tankathon made some changes recently and has us taking Jefferson in the first already... with Higgins and Shenault already gone. I don't watch CFL so I have no idea, just wanted to share this for some perspective. Apparently they think he might go in first even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 17 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Miss out on the first batch of wr’s and beef up the defense again ? 22. Buffalo Bills (10-6) K’Lavon Chaisson, EDGE/OLB, LSU Chaisson (6-4, 250 pounds) has a great name for an elite, active defender who chases after quarterbacks and running backs alike. He has 6.5 sacks during LSU’s run to the CFP national championship game, and like several teammates, his draft stock has shot up throughout the season. He is a bit of a hybrid player who can work well in the Bills' 4-3 to replace retiring Lorenzo Alexander on the weak side. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/nfl-mock-draft-2020-tua-tagovailoa-dolphins-eagles-saints-patriots/bn5x1suc7s971o7qk15lcnl4q This is my pick too, wears #18 at LSU, last time we did that it turned out well. Jefferson or Aiyuk in the 2nd and a DB or DL in the 3rd depending on FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 14 hours ago, SCBills said: He’s a head case, but not a bad teammate. He’s also a hard worker. I wouldn’t be shocked if we inquired. I'm not saying that I don't want him on the team. I just want him for the right price because of the potential headaches he brings. Cleveland had a lot of problems last season and while he wasn't the source of all of it, he was a good chunk of the dysfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL-Bills Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The pick is Gross-Matos if he's there at 22. He's got the run game ability of Shaq with far more pass rush ability. He fits this D concept like a glove with his size and power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Same who would? thats crazy talk. first year he doesnt have full attention on other receiver and its not impressive season? sure he had garbage throwing to him but roll the dice on a kid on a rookie contract is essentially the same but get a few more cheap years. first for a blue chip proven commodity only if that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffarukus said: who would? thats crazy talk. first year he doesnt have full attention on other receiver and its not impressive season? sure he had garbage throwing to him but roll the dice on a kid on a rookie contract is essentially the same but get a few more cheap years. first for a blue chip proven commodity only if that. Yeah, I’m surprised it was even suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 22 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I wouldn't hate this...BUT: Did anyone come away this year thinking JuJu is a true #1 WR? Lets not forget he looked great when AB was drawing double coverage every game, but as a #1 he didn't prove he could hang. I know there were challenges between the injury and QB situation, but at this point he is still unproven as a legit #1 because of that and when he wasn't hurt he didnt really have a lot of success. And if Pitt was willing to trade him after losing AB, wouldn't that further raise question marks about their belief in him as a #1 WR? Good post. When Brown sat out the final game of the 2018 season, it was clear to me that he wasn't elite. He's a good player who I'd like to have on the team, but he ain't great and he ain't worth a first round pick in the best receiver draft in some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Ripster Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Is there anyway we could somehow finesse two second rounders to boot? pick #22 round 1 - best WR available round 2 - RB, WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 8:51 PM, YoloinOhio said: I would say Hamler is next speed wise I don’t watch much PAC 12 but is Austin Jackson any good? Epenesa put him in a body bag in the Holiday Bowl. Epenesa is special special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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