Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Even if the video doesn't show the sidelines, there still may have been intent to cheat. They may have been apprehended before they diverted from the "main objective" to film the sideline. Patriots might get lucky here as they will be cleared and everyone will assume it was just a misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 https://www.patriots.com/video/do-your-job-equipment-staff here’s the video series they are claiming it’s part of. to save this moment to cheat against the bengals would be odd but as said last post - the tape will tell the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Scumbag organization from top to bottom, period!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Strip them of their 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: according to all the articles written during SpyGate. Where it crossed the line is when it was being done during the active game and audio piped into the offensive Box. there is nothing in the rules saying while in the two weeks before a game you cannot video the sidelines from the pressbox. I think this is much to do about nothing. much ado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sunshower said: Strip them of their 1st round pick. Suspend their Cheating Coach and Owner for a Year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, arcane said: This sounds like a bunch of nothing and a bunch of bills fans ignoring the fact that it really sounds like a bunch of nothing You should change your posting alias to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Suspend their Cheating Coach and Owner for a Year I’m sitting here reading the Irishman. My dream is someone steps forward one day with all the dirt on the Pats. Suddenly we see why they defied the odds.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) They were wearing Pats gear, filming in broad daylight, everyone knew they were there, they were running into Bengals employees. If I see the video and it shows illegal sideline filming, then I'll buy that they were breaking rules It literally looks like the booth this happened in was BEHIND the Bengals sideline, how oon earth would they be collecting signals from that side Edited December 10, 2019 by arcane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Nobody post spoilers about when the scout turns in his reimbursements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Slightly misleading headline seeming to exonerate, but summarizes both sides: https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/the-patriots-actually-might-not-be-cheating-this-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Episode 4. Ron eats at an outback steakhouse and watches a xavier vs dayton basketball game. Earlier that day, his rental car gets a crack in the windshield and he needs to figure out how to proceed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: On the Sidelines. again NOTHING in the rule book about from the Pressbox where the advance Scouts are allowed to sit two weeks before the game. that is how the rule reads. You cannot video from certain areas. Nothing in the rules about the advance scouts from the press box. that was the SpyGate problem they were videoing from the sideline with a high powered mic and piping it into the offensive booth I do not know what the old rules are, bu the current Rule 17(2)(1) states: "The Commissioner has the sole authority to investigate and take appropriate disciplinary and/or corrective measures if any club action, non-participant interference, or calamity occurs in an NFL game which the Commissioner deems so extraordinarily unfair or outside the accepted tactics encountered in professional football that such action has a major effect on the result of the game." There is no ambiguity. Nobody is under the impression this is permissible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 This is the end of the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Same excuses used for spygate. If your afraid of the Bengals, that's all you need to know about the 2019 NE Patriots. I am sure Robert Kraft sends a film crew to videography all his scouts. I mean if the the opposing team sideline is filmed its cut out and not used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Slightly misleading headline seeming to exonerate, but summarizes both sides: https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/the-patriots-actually-might-not-be-cheating-this-time/ that they might not be cheating this time is misleading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 hours ago, MAJBobby said: How. Teams film scout every team. They take the scoreboard showing down and distance and then the play. It is a Bengals issue if their are not using the in helmet commo system To be fair, the Cheatriots are tuned into that frequency too. Funny related story. Apparently Hoyer (during his first stint with the Pats) accidentally got his helmet switched with Brady’s and noticed that the communication didn’t shut off at the 15 second mark of the play clock. Cheatriots gotta Cheatriot I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: To be fair, the Cheatriots are tuned into that frequency too. Funny related story. Apparently Hoyer (during his first stint with the Pats) accidentally got his helmet switched with Brady’s and noticed that the communication didn’t shut off at the 15 second mark of the play clock. Cheatriots gotta Cheatriot I guess. That was Flutie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Its probably not so much about this upcoming game or cheating to beat the Bengals IMO it's more about building a database on Zach Taylor. Tendencies. Interactions with players and coaches. Maybe signals. Probably useless but you never know. The information will be banked and could be useful 2-3 years from now. Think about it: Taylor could be OC for a real team in a year or two. Either way it's info on a guy from the McVay coaching tree. Belichick thinks in 4D while most NFL coaches want to tell loud and have guys run through brick walls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Sunshower said: Strip them of their 1st round pick. 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Suspend their Cheating Coach and Owner for a Year These guys have cheated multiple times for 20 years. Including 6 super bowl wins. How many AFC championship games? Like 17?? How did their cheating affect the Rams dynasty? Jake Delhommes earning potential post football? Donovan McNabb?!?! The Falcons...that loss may keep Matt Ryan out of the HOF. On and on and on and THEY CHEATED THE WHOLE TIME!!!! HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY GOT AEAY WITH IT?!?!! These days you can buy lazers that you point at someone and you can hear everything they say. Does anyone really think the Pats ARENT doing that?!?! And haven't been for years?!?! THEY HAVE!!!! They talk to Brady in his helmet!!!! And you guys think one draft pick or one year suspension is enough? WHAT?!?!?!? They need to be given the SMU treatment. The death penalty. The type of punishment that last for 40 years. They need to forfeit EVERY draft pick for multiple years. They need to have their salary cap reduced by 20-30% at least. They need coaches banned. Forced sale of the team should not be off the table either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, peterpan said: Ala was auto corrected to also. I'm sorry for the confusion, Mr. Kraft Ala? Allah? You should let auto correct manage all of your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) So, the Cheats* just admitted that they filmed the sideline of the Bengals, blamed it on independent contractors, but claim they weren't going to use the footage for anything else but the documentary. OK.....sound legit. Scum of the earth. They just got caught red-handed and this time it didn't have a chance to be covered up before it got out. It's now or never NFL..... Edited December 10, 2019 by sven233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, peterpan said: These guys have cheated multiple times for 20 years. Including 6 super bowl wins. How many AFC championship games? Like 17?? How did their cheating affect the Rams dynasty? Jake Delhommes earning potential post football? Donovan McNabb?!?! The Falcons...that loss may keep Matt Ryan out of the HOF. On and on and on and THEY CHEATED THE WHOLE TIME!!!! HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY GOT AEAY WITH IT?!?!! These days you can buy lazers that you point at someone and you can hear everything they say. Does anyone really think the Pats ARENT doing that?!?! And haven't been for years?!?! THEY HAVE!!!! They talk to Brady in his helmet!!!! And you guys think one draft pick or one year suspension is enough? WHAT?!?!?!? They need to be given the SMU treatment. The death penalty. The type of punishment that last for 40 years. They need to forfeit EVERY draft pick for multiple years. They need to have their salary cap reduced by 20-30% at least. They need coaches banned. Forced sale of the team should not be off the table either. The Bills need to get good fast so we can move on from embarrassing stuff like this and focus on our team being good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFlamesGo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Unbelievable statement from the team. Reads almost like it was written from a prank account. They were obviously caught RED handed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, syhuang said: So we're just supposed to take their word for it? That's what this boils down to? Kind of tough to do given their Spygate instructions to blame it on a feature just like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, syhuang said: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I actually thought this was nothing until i saw that statement. Sounds guilty as he11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mykidsdad Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I actually thought this was nothing until i saw that statement. Sounds guilty as he11 I agree. It is the same exact cover story they laid down before. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 So....they admit they broke the rules......AGIAN! Yeah, like they don’t know every little detail down to the most minute level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I’m anxious to see the actual video. If they are blatantly filming the sideline then I won’t buy this excuse. But if it truly looks incidental then this will be more believable. Regardless, it’s a pretty terrible look for a franchise already busted for something similar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 F these cheaters. Throw the book at them once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloaf Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, stevewin said: I seriously think about this every time I watch a Cheater home game - if a team would hire someone to sweep for bugs. They haven't lost at home in 100 years and are known for making miraculous adjustments after halftime ? The Bills should just never go in the locker room except to get dressed. Spend halftime on the field huddled up. Peyton Manning said he would leave the locker room during halftime to talk to coaches when they played at Foxboro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I wonder what Brian Daboll knows about all of the cheating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, Buffaloaf said: The Bills should just never go in the locker room except to get dressed. Spend halftime on the field huddled up. Peyton Manning said he would leave the locker room during halftime to talk to coaches when they played at Foxboro I have zero doubt that Peyton had good cause. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I actually thought this was nothing until i saw that statement. Sounds guilty as he11 I mean, they did admit to wrong doing sooooo... i think the tape will tell the story. If it’s zoomed in on a play caller long term it’ll be different than an occasional action shot towards the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Criminals always return to the scene of their crimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 It’s nice that it was a season-long practice. It’s almost like they blame us for taking so long to catch them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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