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I actually don’t live in NY state anymore, and I did not mean to make this a state vs state issue as you might have taken it (was just pointing out Florida as an entity is a total embarrassment). And I’m not proud really of how a substantive proportion of the people in any of our states have behaved through the pandemic. This has truly been an American failure that crosses every state line. The illness and death in Florida was almost entirely avoidable though... they weren’t blindsided like Wuhan or Bergamo.

“I appreciate and respect science,” I’m sorry but you don’t, because it is scientists who make the argument we all need to mask in certain situations, which you have disregarded. Scientists plead with us to do this because they are using information from a number of situations, not the least of which countries with uniform masking like Japan, which a subsequent poster pointed out. ”Luckily I live in a red state,” It is actually people like you who have politicized the virus, making it more about civil liberties and the president or governor you like than the actual human disease toll. You just readily but unknowingly acknowledged and admitted it. You talk about not burying your head in the sand when in fact it is textbook what you are actually doing. Going about your daily life serving ice cream to happy people like it’s 2018 while your state experiences more illness and death than an ENTIRE massive country like Japan can’t be any more burying your head in the sand. Welcome to America in 2020 I guess.

I say this as respectfully as possible: from the perspective of a physician and scientist, it is this type of common thought that has led to legitimately tens of thousands of needless deaths in America. Some degree of disease and death was inescapable with this virus. Your business specifically may or may not have indirectly contributed to the death toll (you actually have no idea), but there is no question that people who have thought just like you are unfortunately responsible for a massive amount of morbidity and mortality.

McD not announcing if his starters will play in week 17 vs jets. The same guy who waited until Saturday to tell you who is playing QB? Have we been watching this guy for 3 years now? And you all think he would show his best defensive game plan in a meaningless game vs the Patriots? Please....

I don’t think he ‘threw’ the game as much as tried to win with a very simple defensive plan. Yes, McD is the type to not show all his cards in a game that wouldn’t have any standings relevance. Brady and the Patriots have been an atrocity for 2 years now vs the blitz, rushing 4 all game just isn’t the way to play them any more. IF they play again this year, you will see a very different defensive formula. And a different defensive outcome. Book it.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/12/new-england-patriots-cheating-video-bengals-sideline-spygate/amp Hadn’t thought of the connection between McVay and Taylor. I thought what happened at the start of the last Super Bowl was suspicious to say the least.

Unbelievable statement from the team. Reads almost like it was written from a prank account. They were obviously caught RED handed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/09/13/antonio-browns-stepdad-says-nfl-receiver-is-very-abusive-toward-women/amp/ Here’s the cliffnotes version. Looks like there’s a lot of people who probably need to be talked to.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2298810001 Yikes.

If you appreciate honest, honorable and noble completion, you can't help but find the Patriots to be as lousy as it gets. It would be tough to cheer for them honestly. The cheating scandal in the 2000s can't be overstated. No team had ever been penalized for something so severely, WITHOUT the public ever getting to see what actually happened. It's unfathomable, and makes me question things that have even happened since (for those wondering, Seattle never ran that particular rub pass play in the red zone once all year, yet the Patriots' own 'do your job' video shows them Super Bowl week practicing against it vs scout team IN THE RED ZONE). I personally know someone who I fully trust who was on their inside that confirmed they knew the Rams red zone plans in 2001. There's so much smoke surrounding the Patriots and Belichick that it's virtually impossible to conceive they'll every fight you square. The AB rape thing is actually in my mind less of an indictment on them than the scheme they used to get him in the first place. Almost identical to what they did for Blount (but much higher profile), it's an under-handed, scumbag tactic that's almost impossible to prove tampering against and yet rewards them. For Patriots and their fans, at this point, their only defense is that everyone else cheats or tries to cheat too. They're just the best at it. Or that you are spouting conspiracy theories. But the FACTS of their run again include so much smoke, it's nearly impossible to conclude there isn't/wasn't a serious fire. Draw whatever conclusions you would like, I guess. Nothing and nobodies minds are changing.

The Chung thing is bizarre, wonder if it has something to do with CBA negotiations coming up. The issue here is that AB is so much more high profile, and has behaved so poorly on his prior team that suspension was warranted even from that. He already is walking on as thin ice as you can imagine. If his text messages are real, even if the rape didn't happen, he did admit to ejaculating on the woman's back (without consent obviously). She wasn't his girlfriend or wife (even then it's on the border of assault). That act/admission alone probably is on par or worse arguable than things like guys like Matt Lauer or Azeez Ansari did, both of whom suffered severe professional consequences. This is the "me too" era/movement for a reason, this type of behavior is simply NOT OK and cannot be tolerated under any circumstances, money grab or not. The question is whether his texts can quickly be verified, and whether the league thinks that this misconduct warrants being exempt. Remember, Adrian Peterson lost a season immediately without any trial or judge/jury.

Fair point, but they would have to be scouting both teams sidelines, and Belichick would have to have a number of these scouts reliable enough that he would trust their eyes, memories and hand written notes. Where are these guys even conducting this not-easy-to conceal work from? Again it’s possible, but ask yourself why you are giving BB the benefit of the doubt. It would be interesting to see what the take on this clip would be from the perspective of another NFL HC.

Anything is possible sure, but I personally find it unlikely a team is going to send scouts to every game another team that isn’t on their schedule plays over the course of the year to learn ‘tells.’ Let’s also not pretend to forget, Belichick has been PROVEN to have broken this rule. That is not conspiracy.

Just to confirm, taping opponents’ sidelines is illegal. How else would you figure out opposing head coach ‘tells’ over the course of the season? https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/17/sports/football/17nfl.html