Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Talent: Ravens Schemes: Ravens, presumably Passion: Bills, hopefully Environment: Bills Luck: ? Bills have a chance if the ball bounces their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsRdue said: It's all about red zone defense. If we hold them to a few FG's and they miss one or two, we can pull this out. If the Bills win, I see a 27-23 game. If the Ravens win I see a 38-27 kind of game. Lamar will get his yards. We just have to contain him in the red zone and make them drive long fields. The problem is their kicker is Justin Tucker. My prediction is OUR kicking game will kill us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 extra days + our Offense is on the ascent = 60% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDTT Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Talent: Ravens Schemes: Ravens, presumably Passion: Bills, hopefully Environment: Bills Luck: ? Bills have a chance if the ball bounces their way. I think the Bills schemes are superior to the Raven's, but that the Raven's talent will compensate for that. Agree with the Passion & Environment pieces, and keeping my fingers crossed for luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Philo said: Did you listen to a standalone Locked On Ravens or the crossover pod? Crossover with Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I would absolutely take the Bills with 6 points. I think we win straight up. We're at home, with 10 days to prepare, and are peaking coming off our best three performances of the season. Ravens are due for a letdown and this game is it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Coin flip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Talent: Ravens Schemes: Ravens, presumably Passion: Bills, hopefully Environment: Bills Luck: ? Bills have a chance if the ball bounces their way. 4 minutes ago, TDTT said: I think the Bills schemes are superior to the Raven's, but that the Raven's talent will compensate for that. Agree with the Passion & Environment pieces, and keeping my fingers crossed for luck! Why are you so quick to say the Ravens have more talent? The Bills defense is 3rd in yards Ravens are 9th Pass Defense Bills are 3rd Ravens are 13th Run Defense Ravens are 6th Bills are 14th Bills are 3rd in ppg and Ravens are 5th Bills have a higher ranked passing offense in ypg Ravens lead in points per game and rushing yards per game for offense and rushing yards per game for the defense. So of the 8 major statistics (total ypg, pass ypg, run ypg, ppg for both offense and defense) the Ravens are better in 4 and the Bills are better in 4. Ravens are the media darling right now and deservedly so. Buffalo is going to smack them in the mouth and take that mantle. 100% Did I say that yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: Crossover with Joe Okay, I listened to that as well and had a similar impression. Was just wondering if there was some other podcast where he went over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, r00tabaga said: Well according to Locked On ravens we have no shot. They also said that there is no code to break that they are unstoppable and that they’re not worried about any team. The cockiest guy/nerd I’ve ever heard. Why aren't they undefeated then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, MJS said: Why aren't they undefeated then? According to that guy they made a bunch of personnel changes on defense after the Cleveland game, which shored things up. Haven't lost since then - hence his stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Philo said: According to that guy they made a bunch of personnel changes on defense after the Cleveland game, which shored things up. Haven't lost since then - hence his stance. But their offense should have still been "unstoppable" early in the year. Apparently it wasn't. Pittsburgh was a close games. Cincy was a close game. They've been on a nice run, but they are beatable just like any other team. 6 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Germans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, MJS said: But their offense should have still been "unstoppable" early in the year. Apparently it wasn't. Pittsburgh was a close games. Cincy was a close game. They've been on a nice run, but they are beatable just like any other team. Germans? Maybe their offense has evolved like our own? I dunno, haven't watched the Ravens much myself. And of course they are beatable. That's what the other poster and I were getting after...the Ravens podcast host couldn't say anything outside of gushing over the team. It was a bit of an eye roll. FYI, he's quoting a famous movie... "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Philo said: Maybe their offense has evolved like our own? I dunno, haven't watched the Ravens much myself. And of course they are beatable. That's what the other poster and I were getting after...the Ravens podcast host couldn't say anything outside of gushing over the team. It was a bit of an eye roll. FYI, he's quoting a famous movie... "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." I agree with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 40.16387% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: Coin flip! Heads We Win Tails they Lose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I said 50% but I was thinking more like 55%. Slighty better than 50/50 because of the home field advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: 50/50 49.5/49.5? A tie would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: The majority picking under 50%. The same group of people who would have argued the same about the Cowboys, and were seriously worried about the Broncos. Bills fans gonna Bills fan. The question is slightly deceptive. If it’s what percentage that we have a chance- 100%. If it’s percentage/confidence level that we will win, I’m at 50%. I'd argue having a 35-49% chance in a game against an absurdly hot team is not particularly negative, and I tend to get called out as an overly positive fan and it sounds about right to me. Plus, as different as this season has been, it's still hard to shake the feeling, as illogical and irrelevant as it is, that this is the kind of game where we expect a painful loss -- even coming, as it does, on the heels of an overwhelming and convincing win in the ultimate kind of game the Bills usually lose. That said, there are quite a few reasons to believe the Bills have a better chance than we think in this game: - Bills are playing on 10 days rest - Game is in New Era Field - Bills are arguably the second hottest team in the NFL right now and perhaps their mojo is even more powerful than the Ravens' - In the past 3 games, the Bills are just the sort of team that could stop a rolling team like the Ravens: an offense coming together and a disruptive, dynamic, hard-hitting, disciplined defense. - Overall, they are clearly one of the three high-level defenses (with SF & NE) and outside of a few anomalies they are a young defense, especially in their three potential (well, one is pretty much there) superstars, and there's some reason to believe their ceiling is much higher than it has been so far, and if there is ever a game where a defense could make a statement, this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, thurst44 said: I'd argue having a 35-49% chance in a game against an absurdly hot team is not particularly negative, and I tend to get called out as an overly positive fan and it sounds about right to me. Plus, as different as this season has been, it's still hard to shake the feeling, as illogical and irrelevant as it is, that this is the kind of game where we expect a painful loss -- even coming, as it does, on the heels of an overwhelming and convincing win in the ultimate kind of game the Bills usually lose. That said, there are quite a few reasons to believe the Bills have a better chance than we think in this game: - Bills are playing on 10 days rest - Game is in New Era Field - Bills are arguably the second hottest team in the NFL right now and perhaps their mojo is even more powerful than the Ravens' - In the past 3 games, the Bills are just the sort of team that could stop a rolling team like the Ravens: an offense coming together and a disruptive, dynamic, hard-hitting, disciplined defense. - Overall, they are clearly one of the three high-level defenses (with SF & NE) and outside of a few anomalies they are a young defense, especially in their three potential (well, one is pretty much there) superstars, and there's some reason to believe their ceiling is much higher than it has been so far, and if there is ever a game where a defense could make a statement, this is it. A team that has 1 more win than us. Besides, I would argue that how hot they have been is a potential downfall for them. I’m not saying we will win, but this board leans negative (probably rightfully so due to history) and there’s really no reason this isn’t a completely competitive matchup from the outset. The 7-4 Texans just beat the 10-1 patriots. It’s all relative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, MJS said: Germans? I guess you’re not on my team when we play Trivial Pursuit Pop Culture edition... Yikes. Edited December 4, 2019 by Jay_Fixit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Paulus said: 49.5/49.5? A tie would be interesting. Not if we want the #1 seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, BillsRdue said: It's all about red zone defense. If we hold them to a few FG's and they miss one or two, we can pull this out. If the Bills win, I see a 27-23 game. If the Ravens win I see a 38-27 kind of game. Lamar will get his yards. We just have to contain him in the red zone and make them drive long fields. Tucker NEVER misses. That will be all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, hemma said: 3 extra days + our Offense is on the ascent = 60% My estimate is 33%. However, if we do win it will be because of these two things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksm27 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 To be a nerd, it's a poorly constructed poll. 4 of the 6 options suggest a tie or loss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 100% I'm more concerned about the Steelers game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, ksm27 said: To be a nerd, it's a poorly constructed poll. 4 of the 6 options suggest a tie or loss. Yeah give me 100% all by itself. I'd still pick it. I'm not putting 5k down but I will be betting Bills money line more money than I want my wife to know about (although even a dollar is more than she likes lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I went 50%. The Bills are a tough matchup for Baltimore IMO. You are correct..in fact, its always theoretically 50/50. No amount of analytics can change that in this particular game imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Being that they are underestimating us, I’m thinking 60% Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: The majority picking under 50%. The same group of people who would have argued the same about the Cowboys, and were seriously worried about the Broncos. Bills fans gonna Bills fan. Not really. I wasn't nearly as worried about the Cowboys and picked the Bills to win that game. This is the first time this year that I've picked the Bills' opponent to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 hours ago, teef said: i'm mentally in the 35-40% range...whatever that means. Ya Know 60% of the time it works every time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 We are at home, with a defensive minded coach, and fast linebackers. Let's remember Lamar is still young. Granted they are better than the cowboys who supposedly had the best offense in the league. But we manhandled them in Dallas! If those same bills come to play. This is at least a 50/50 split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I would give the Bills a 40% chance of winning. At home with a quality defense you have a 40% chance no matter who you play. Baltimore is playing as good as anyone in the league and this is a big test for the Bills. Lamar Jackson is a tough matchup as DC's are still trying to find a way to slow him and this offense down. Hopefully McD comes up with something that slows him down and Josh get the offense going with consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 50-% at home and on a good roll … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: My thoughts exactly before I even opened this thread. This game can truly go either way. I'm not worried about LJ through the air, but on the ground is a different story. If we can stop him on the ground, then we have a great chance to beat them. I just hope it doesn't boil down to the kickers cuz they truly have the best one in the game right now. I keep thinking about Bill Parcells game plan for the Giants to beat the Bills in the Superbowl. He basically said "we're going to stop the pass, if he runs on us he runs on us. We can give up >100 yds to him and win." 135 yds, to be exact. I don't know what the answer is, but I keep thinking about that. I think part of the answer is to make up our mind firmly what we're going to try to take away, and Go for the Gusto there. 2 hours ago, MJS said: Why aren't they undefeated then? According to 1 fan here and my general feeling from poking about, they think their defense is much better now. I'm not entirely clear on how lacking a better defense held their offense to 28 and 25 points when they actually had a 5+ minute advantage in TOP vs KC and threw 2 picks/fumbled 2x vs the Browns, but that seems to be the feeling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 hours ago, KellyToTasker said: Everything works until it doesn’t ??♂️ I hope he eats crow. Kinda like Brady - a shell of himself now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 45%.....Ravens with a small edge. At the end of the day the team with less mistakes will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I said 50%. Baltimore and/or Jackson has to have a bad game sooner or later, right? They've won 8 in a row and Buffalo is their toughest remaining game. I feel pretty good about the Bills chances. A freak lake effect storm would help even more, but that ain't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 This game and the Pats games are the only two games I've gone into expecting a loss. But if Josh plays like he did last Sunday... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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