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4 minutes ago, Bills fan since 87 said:

Wouldn't stun me to see Pitt lose to Cleveland Thursday night.

 

None of the teams they're playing are that bad.  Their Defense is playing lights out at the moment, but as we've seen the last few weeks with our vaunted d... teams adjust.  I could see anyone on that schedule other than cincy beat them.  Just like anyone on our schedule can beat us.  Neither team has enough O to be penciling in W's on their schedule.  

 

Colts, Titans, Jags, Raiders are all still in it too.  All kind of flawed teams too, much like buffalo

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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Maybe, maybe not. 

 

The Bills could go into a tailspin and lose either of the next two or win one and lose one. 

 

There are also two wildcard spots. So both teams can get in. 

 

I think the two spots are between the Bills, Steelers and Raiders.... but will change if the Bills drop the next two. Absolutely can't lose to the Dolphins.

 

Don't forget about the Texans or Colts. One will win the division but the other will also be in the WC mix.

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1 minute ago, NoName said:

All this fuss about the playoffs.  We are just going to get bounced in the wild card round anyway.  Instead of stressing the playoffs so much, we should be stressing be a threat to win it all.  What's the point of getting in the playoffs when you don't have a realistic shot. Right now we don't.  Our offense cannot score like a playoff team should

 

For a team that has only made the playoffs once in the past 19 years I would say getting in is pretty important. Building a winning culture like McBean always talk about means you need to win. Nobody who looks at the Bills realistically thinks they are a contender this season but making the playoffs would do wonders for their confidence especially the younger players who are the core part of the team the organization is trying to build around.

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Just now, NoName said:

All this fuss about the playoffs.  We are just going to get bounced in the wild card round anyway.  Instead of stressing the playoffs so much, we should be stressing be a threat to win it all.  What's the point of getting in the playoffs when you don't have a realistic shot. Right now we don't.  Our offense cannot score like a playoff team should

 

I mean - Seattle made it at 7-9 and won a WC game: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2010.htm

 

Same with Denver in 2011: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2011.htm.  Denver wasn't even good - buffalo blew them out 2 weeks before.  


Ravens in 2012 actually won it all... nothing about that team screamed special.  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/2012.htm

 

I guess the reasoning is - you can't win a playoff game if you don't make the playoffs.  Win 1, and who knows what happens. 

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I think we gave Cleveland a shot of adrenaline and honestly that game should not have been as close as it was considering the herculean efforts the D made at the goal line.

 

They may take one from PIT. Even so I think our road to playoffs requires a win there.

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10 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I expect Pittsburgh to drop at least one to Cleveland, and I expect us to beat either Dallas or Baltimore. 

Seriously?  I'd be really impressed with a win over either of those teams.  I don't see it happening at all.

 

 

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Just now, Nextmanup said:

Seriously?  I'd be really impressed with a win over either of those teams.  I don't see it happening at all.

 

 

 

Meh, it's probably not a logical thing I can defend worth anything.. Just the NFL as we know it, our season is missing a crazy "how the heck did that happen" win and I think we'll get it. 

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No one has any idea what will happen in any of the rest of the games. There almost 1/2 season left. Assuming wins and losses looking at the schedule is a waste of time. Jmo. They have a great chance vs some of the really bad teams of course but the nfl is weird and they could beat the Ravens and lose to the Jets. I just don’t play the schedule game, personally.

25 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Pittsburgh is losing to Cleveland this week.   

Let’s hope so but i doubt it. 

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10 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I expect Pittsburgh to drop at least one to Cleveland, and I expect us to beat either Dallas or Baltimore

no way they beat baltimore. the two home losses have come from contenders, ravens are not only a contender but I see them representing the afc in the sb.

 

the way this offense has lacked the potential to score points with no change in sight, I am leaning toward them missing the postseason and finishing 8-8 or even 7-9?

 

9 games in has shown me enough to believe they are just not there and my fear is yet another regime has failed to field a contender.

 

 

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1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

On paper Pittsburgh looks like the best bet, but ... the Bills haven't won in Pittsburgh since 1975, when the Juice ran for 227 yards.

The Bills will beat Miami, Denver, and the Jets. One slip up by either Pitt, Baltimore, or Dallas (turnovers, special teams flukes, etc.) and the Bills get to 10. They will not win at NE.

Small point of order, but the Bills did win in the playoffs in Pittsburgh right after the Houston comeback game in Jan of 93...but as far as reg season you’re probably right?

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2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

No one has any idea what will happen in any of the rest of the games. There almost 1/2 season left. Assuming wins and losses looking at the schedule is a waste of time. Jmo. They have a great chance vs some of the really bad teams of course but the nfl is weird and they could beat the Ravens and lose to the Jets. I just don’t play the schedule game, personally.

Let’s hope so but i doubt it. 

I think Cleveland wins the game in Cleveland, and Pittsburgh gets them back in a few weeks at home.   Pittsburgh defense did look mighty scary yesterday though.

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15 hours ago, Steptide said:

Call me crazy, but I don't think new England is completely unbeatable. 

 

 

Ok, you're crazy. No way the Bills go to Foxboro in late December and beat them in a game they'll likely need.

 

I see them beating Denver and the Jets to finish 8-8. Don't think they're beating Miami next week.

 

 

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where does the 7th win come from is a good question at this point! 

13 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:

Think we will match up fine with Pittsburgh  They will play good d, conservative dont make a mistake offense behind a qb they dont trust   Sound familiar?

 

they also run the ball, something Daboll forgets is permitted in the NFL.  That will be a difficult game for us.   Their D also forces fumbles.  JA does not even need help fumbling 1/2 the time.  

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Skidding into 9-7, guaranteed. I could see them lose 5 more and make a nice 6-2 into an 8-8 finish. They absolutely get crushed by the Ravens. Lose embarrassingly on national TV on Thanksgiving to the Cowboys. Lose to the Steelers. Lose to the Pats. That's 7 losses. Can they win all three of Dolphins, Jets, and Broncos?  Seriously doubt it.

 

The most Billsy thing is to go to MIami this weekend and get beat. Season over right there. The Allen experiment then is teetering on the brink of collapse if he gets beat in a the most critical, stop-the-bleeding-and-prove-it game in a long time by Fitzpatrick.

 

I would argue the Allen experiment is on life support right now. The only saving grace for the kid is that there is legit argument that he's got a bunch of #2 receivers who scare no one and an OL that can't sustain a running game. However, there is still that questionable decision-making, indecisiveness, and accuracy problem that you just don't "fix." I wanted this kid to be it even though I was a "never draft Allen" person. But I was willing to give him the chance.  I see moments but I don't see him taking over games, dominating, and winning games easily like the great ones do. You can't make a career running an offense that averages less than 20 points a game in the NFL. This isn't 1960. 

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26 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I think Cleveland wins the game in Cleveland, and Pittsburgh gets them back in a few weeks at home.   Pittsburgh defense did look mighty scary yesterday though.

The Browns have better talent, and Rudolph is really limited. but Steelers are better coached and not as stupid. The Browns were very lucky to win yesterday with Bills missing 2 FGs (kind of like us vs Tennessee). They are typically unfocused and unprepared which will be exacerbated by the short week. I just foresee  3 days of chest-puffing and nobody-believed-in-us-ing and then a thorough pounding by the Steelers. I hope I’m wrong.

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Browns have better talent, and Rudolph is really limited. but Steelers are better coached and not as stupid. The Browns were very lucky to win yesterday with Bills missing 2 FGs (kind of like us vs Tennessee). They are typically unfocused and unprepared which will be exacerbated by the short week. I just foresee  3 days of chest-puffing and nobody-believed-in-us-ing and then a thorough pounding by the Steelers. I hope I’m wrong.

This is a logical supposition, but I won't be surprised if the Browns win that game. I think they match up decently against Pitt, whose run game isn't that good right now. They have also generated 273 yards in total offense two weeks in a row AT HOME. They are like the Bills in that they are not that good because their offense is mediocre. They could easily have lost yesterday and should have lost to Indy the week before. Basically, when you play in a lot of close games, you are going to lose some of them. Pitt is one of those teams right now. 

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22 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

This is a logical supposition, but I won't be surprised if the Browns win that game. I think they match up decently against Pitt, whose run game isn't that good right now. They have also generated 273 yards in total offense two weeks in a row AT HOME. They are like the Bills in that they are not that good because their offense is mediocre. They could easily have lost yesterday and should have lost to Indy the week before. Basically, when you play in a lot of close games, you are going to lose some of them. Pitt is one of those teams right now. 

They SHOULD win the game, just as they should have won 4or 5 of the 6 they have lost. So I wouldn’t be surprised  either but having watched this team I certainly wouldn’t bet on it. Fraudie Kitchens on a short week is an invitation to disaster. Yes, Steelers have no offense and are going on the road and I’m not a huge Tomlin fan normally but at least he knows what he’s doing.

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

They SHOULD win the game, just as they should have won 4or 5 of the 6 they have lost. So I wouldn’t be surprised  either but having watched this team I certainly wouldn’t bet on it. Fraudie Kitchens on a short week is an invitation to disaster. Yes, Steelers have no offense and are going on the road and I’m not a huge Tomlin fan normally but at least he knows what he’s doing.

I hear you. I'm actually a big Tomlin fan (not necessarily as a tactician, but as a leader-of-men head coach who is remarkably consistent), and the coaching matters. 

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2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I'm actually a big Tomlin fan (not necessarily as a tactician, but as a leader-of-men head coach who is remarkably consistent), and the coaching matters. 

 

McD seems a lot like Tomlin, both in the leadership (plus) and tactician (minus) aspects.  It's also probably why guys like Cowher like him so much...

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5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I hear you. I'm actually a big Tomlin fan (not necessarily as a tactician, but as a leader-of-men head coach who is remarkably consistent), and the coaching matters. 

My thing with Tomlin is he inevitably plays down to his competition especially on the road. Oh and he can’t figure out the Pats for the life of him when it matters. But give him a big game at home and he’s usually got that team dialed up. 

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

My thing with Tomlin is he inevitably plays down to his competition especially on the road. Oh and he can’t figure out the Pats for the life of him when it matters. But give him a big game at home and he’s usually got that team dialed up. 

No one can figure out Belichick. I just refuse to use that as a standard by which to measure other coaches.  He is 13-13 vs. John Harbaugh, another great coach. That's a better measuring stick. 

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I don't think they will get to 10 wins i'm starting to believe the narrative that all their wins came by beating crap teams ! 

 

If Dabol doesn't utilize his talent better they may not even make it past 7 wins 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/11/11/20959111/snap-count-notes-buffalo-bills-at-cleveland-browns

 

He may be a pass heavy coordinator but this is ridiculous !! Just look at the total of carries each running back got in yesterdays game & if that isn't a red flag i don't know what is !! 

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19 hours ago, letsgoteam said:

Such a frustrating game, with the Bills blowing this one, where does  the 10th win come? Assuming we beat the Dolphins, Broncos, Jets. Do they even get 10? 

 

Unfortunately, I am starting to feel that 9 wins is not going to capture a playoff spot with Pitt and Oakland doing their thing.

I don't see them winning 10 games, they may even go 8-8. Its the Billsy thing to do 

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Where does the 7th win come from?

3 hours ago, zonabb said:

Skidding into 9-7, guaranteed. I could see them lose 5 more and make a nice 6-2 into an 8-8 finish. They absolutely get crushed by the Ravens. Lose embarrassingly on national TV on Thanksgiving to the Cowboys. Lose to the Steelers. Lose to the Pats. That's 7 losses. Can they win all three of Dolphins, Jets, and Broncos?  Seriously doubt it.

 

The most Billsy thing is to go to MIami this weekend and get beat. Season over right there. The Allen experiment then is teetering on the brink of collapse if he gets beat in a the most critical, stop-the-bleeding-and-prove-it game in a long time by Fitzpatrick.

 

I would argue the Allen experiment is on life support right now. The only saving grace for the kid is that there is legit argument that he's got a bunch of #2 receivers who scare no one and an OL that can't sustain a running game. However, there is still that questionable decision-making, indecisiveness, and accuracy problem that you just don't "fix." I wanted this kid to be it even though I was a "never draft Allen" person. But I was willing to give him the chance.  I see moments but I don't see him taking over games, dominating, and winning games easily like the great ones do. You can't make a career running an offense that averages less than 20 points a game in the NFL. This isn't 1960. 

Allen gets 2021 without McDermott

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