Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bills fan since 87 said: Wouldn't stun me to see Pitt lose to Cleveland Thursday night. None of the teams they're playing are that bad. Their Defense is playing lights out at the moment, but as we've seen the last few weeks with our vaunted d... teams adjust. I could see anyone on that schedule other than cincy beat them. Just like anyone on our schedule can beat us. Neither team has enough O to be penciling in W's on their schedule. Colts, Titans, Jags, Raiders are all still in it too. All kind of flawed teams too, much like buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) I doubt we win both of the next two. I think the most likely record for the Bills when they play the Steelers is 7-6. edit: and I could see PIT splitting with cleveland, making them 8-5. Would still be a big game for WC. Edited November 11, 2019 by Chemical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Maybe, maybe not. The Bills could go into a tailspin and lose either of the next two or win one and lose one. There are also two wildcard spots. So both teams can get in. I think the two spots are between the Bills, Steelers and Raiders.... but will change if the Bills drop the next two. Absolutely can't lose to the Dolphins. Don't forget about the Texans or Colts. One will win the division but the other will also be in the WC mix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 we are weeks away from this game. A lot can happen between now and then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I expect Pittsburgh to drop at least one to Cleveland, and I expect us to beat either Dallas or Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, NoName said: All this fuss about the playoffs. We are just going to get bounced in the wild card round anyway. Instead of stressing the playoffs so much, we should be stressing be a threat to win it all. What's the point of getting in the playoffs when you don't have a realistic shot. Right now we don't. Our offense cannot score like a playoff team should For a team that has only made the playoffs once in the past 19 years I would say getting in is pretty important. Building a winning culture like McBean always talk about means you need to win. Nobody who looks at the Bills realistically thinks they are a contender this season but making the playoffs would do wonders for their confidence especially the younger players who are the core part of the team the organization is trying to build around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, NoName said: All this fuss about the playoffs. We are just going to get bounced in the wild card round anyway. Instead of stressing the playoffs so much, we should be stressing be a threat to win it all. What's the point of getting in the playoffs when you don't have a realistic shot. Right now we don't. Our offense cannot score like a playoff team should I mean - Seattle made it at 7-9 and won a WC game: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2010.htm Same with Denver in 2011: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2011.htm. Denver wasn't even good - buffalo blew them out 2 weeks before. Ravens in 2012 actually won it all... nothing about that team screamed special. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/2012.htm I guess the reasoning is - you can't win a playoff game if you don't make the playoffs. Win 1, and who knows what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The Pitt game is huge more than likely....wish it was in Buffalo but that is the game more than any other they need to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I'll be taking plenty of crap down here if the Steelers beat us. Not feeling good about that game right now and thats with their backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theAteam Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I think we gave Cleveland a shot of adrenaline and honestly that game should not have been as close as it was considering the herculean efforts the D made at the goal line. They may take one from PIT. Even so I think our road to playoffs requires a win there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Bangarang said: Beat the Dolphins and go from there Yup. One game at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I expect Pittsburgh to drop at least one to Cleveland, and I expect us to beat either Dallas or Baltimore. Seriously? I'd be really impressed with a win over either of those teams. I don't see it happening at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Steptide said: Call me crazy, but I don't think new England is completely unbeatable. to us they are completely unbeatable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, Nextmanup said: Seriously? I'd be really impressed with a win over either of those teams. I don't see it happening at all. Meh, it's probably not a logical thing I can defend worth anything.. Just the NFL as we know it, our season is missing a crazy "how the heck did that happen" win and I think we'll get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 No one has any idea what will happen in any of the rest of the games. There almost 1/2 season left. Assuming wins and losses looking at the schedule is a waste of time. Jmo. They have a great chance vs some of the really bad teams of course but the nfl is weird and they could beat the Ravens and lose to the Jets. I just don’t play the schedule game, personally. 25 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Pittsburgh is losing to Cleveland this week. Let’s hope so but i doubt it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I expect Pittsburgh to drop at least one to Cleveland, and I expect us to beat either Dallas or Baltimore. no way they beat baltimore. the two home losses have come from contenders, ravens are not only a contender but I see them representing the afc in the sb. the way this offense has lacked the potential to score points with no change in sight, I am leaning toward them missing the postseason and finishing 8-8 or even 7-9? 9 games in has shown me enough to believe they are just not there and my fear is yet another regime has failed to field a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: On paper Pittsburgh looks like the best bet, but ... the Bills haven't won in Pittsburgh since 1975, when the Juice ran for 227 yards. The Bills will beat Miami, Denver, and the Jets. One slip up by either Pitt, Baltimore, or Dallas (turnovers, special teams flukes, etc.) and the Bills get to 10. They will not win at NE. Small point of order, but the Bills did win in the playoffs in Pittsburgh right after the Houston comeback game in Jan of 93...but as far as reg season you’re probably right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: No one has any idea what will happen in any of the rest of the games. There almost 1/2 season left. Assuming wins and losses looking at the schedule is a waste of time. Jmo. They have a great chance vs some of the really bad teams of course but the nfl is weird and they could beat the Ravens and lose to the Jets. I just don’t play the schedule game, personally. Let’s hope so but i doubt it. I think Cleveland wins the game in Cleveland, and Pittsburgh gets them back in a few weeks at home. Pittsburgh defense did look mighty scary yesterday though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Steptide said: Call me crazy, but I don't think new England is completely unbeatable. They aren’t, we just can’t beat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Steptide said: Call me crazy, but I don't think new England is completely unbeatable. Ok, you're crazy. No way the Bills go to Foxboro in late December and beat them in a game they'll likely need. I see them beating Denver and the Jets to finish 8-8. Don't think they're beating Miami next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) where does the 7th win come from is a good question at this point! 13 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: Think we will match up fine with Pittsburgh They will play good d, conservative dont make a mistake offense behind a qb they dont trust Sound familiar? they also run the ball, something Daboll forgets is permitted in the NFL. That will be a difficult game for us. Their D also forces fumbles. JA does not even need help fumbling 1/2 the time. Edited November 11, 2019 by RyanC883 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Skidding into 9-7, guaranteed. I could see them lose 5 more and make a nice 6-2 into an 8-8 finish. They absolutely get crushed by the Ravens. Lose embarrassingly on national TV on Thanksgiving to the Cowboys. Lose to the Steelers. Lose to the Pats. That's 7 losses. Can they win all three of Dolphins, Jets, and Broncos? Seriously doubt it. The most Billsy thing is to go to MIami this weekend and get beat. Season over right there. The Allen experiment then is teetering on the brink of collapse if he gets beat in a the most critical, stop-the-bleeding-and-prove-it game in a long time by Fitzpatrick. I would argue the Allen experiment is on life support right now. The only saving grace for the kid is that there is legit argument that he's got a bunch of #2 receivers who scare no one and an OL that can't sustain a running game. However, there is still that questionable decision-making, indecisiveness, and accuracy problem that you just don't "fix." I wanted this kid to be it even though I was a "never draft Allen" person. But I was willing to give him the chance. I see moments but I don't see him taking over games, dominating, and winning games easily like the great ones do. You can't make a career running an offense that averages less than 20 points a game in the NFL. This isn't 1960. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I think Cleveland wins the game in Cleveland, and Pittsburgh gets them back in a few weeks at home. Pittsburgh defense did look mighty scary yesterday though. The Browns have better talent, and Rudolph is really limited. but Steelers are better coached and not as stupid. The Browns were very lucky to win yesterday with Bills missing 2 FGs (kind of like us vs Tennessee). They are typically unfocused and unprepared which will be exacerbated by the short week. I just foresee 3 days of chest-puffing and nobody-believed-in-us-ing and then a thorough pounding by the Steelers. I hope I’m wrong. Edited November 11, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Small point of order, but the Bills did win in the playoffs in Pittsburgh right after the Houston comeback game in Jan of 93...but as far as reg season you’re probably right? yes, regular season. Should have noted that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egd Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 We will beat New England in Week 16, since they will have everything wrapped up and will rest their starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The Browns have better talent, and Rudolph is really limited. but Steelers are better coached and not as stupid. The Browns were very lucky to win yesterday with Bills missing 2 FGs (kind of like us vs Tennessee). They are typically unfocused and unprepared which will be exacerbated by the short week. I just foresee 3 days of chest-puffing and nobody-believed-in-us-ing and then a thorough pounding by the Steelers. I hope I’m wrong. This is a logical supposition, but I won't be surprised if the Browns win that game. I think they match up decently against Pitt, whose run game isn't that good right now. They have also generated 273 yards in total offense two weeks in a row AT HOME. They are like the Bills in that they are not that good because their offense is mediocre. They could easily have lost yesterday and should have lost to Indy the week before. Basically, when you play in a lot of close games, you are going to lose some of them. Pitt is one of those teams right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, egd said: We will beat New England in Week 16, since they will have everything wrapped up and will rest their starters. even then... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: This is a logical supposition, but I won't be surprised if the Browns win that game. I think they match up decently against Pitt, whose run game isn't that good right now. They have also generated 273 yards in total offense two weeks in a row AT HOME. They are like the Bills in that they are not that good because their offense is mediocre. They could easily have lost yesterday and should have lost to Indy the week before. Basically, when you play in a lot of close games, you are going to lose some of them. Pitt is one of those teams right now. They SHOULD win the game, just as they should have won 4or 5 of the 6 they have lost. So I wouldn’t be surprised either but having watched this team I certainly wouldn’t bet on it. Fraudie Kitchens on a short week is an invitation to disaster. Yes, Steelers have no offense and are going on the road and I’m not a huge Tomlin fan normally but at least he knows what he’s doing. Edited November 11, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: They SHOULD win the game, just as they should have won 4or 5 of the 6 they have lost. So I wouldn’t be surprised either but having watched this team I certainly wouldn’t bet on it. Fraudie Kitchens on a short week is an invitation to disaster. Yes, Steelers have no offense and are going on the road and I’m not a huge Tomlin fan normally but at least he knows what he’s doing. I hear you. I'm actually a big Tomlin fan (not necessarily as a tactician, but as a leader-of-men head coach who is remarkably consistent), and the coaching matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 18 hours ago, Playoffs? said: If we can’t win 4 of the next 7 games, I’d rather we lost all 7 and got a stud WR in the draft. To do what with? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I'm actually a big Tomlin fan (not necessarily as a tactician, but as a leader-of-men head coach who is remarkably consistent), and the coaching matters. McD seems a lot like Tomlin, both in the leadership (plus) and tactician (minus) aspects. It's also probably why guys like Cowher like him so much... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: McD seems a lot like Tomlin, both in the leadership (plus) and tactician (minus) aspects. It's also probably why guys like Cowher like him so much... Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I hear you. I'm actually a big Tomlin fan (not necessarily as a tactician, but as a leader-of-men head coach who is remarkably consistent), and the coaching matters. My thing with Tomlin is he inevitably plays down to his competition especially on the road. Oh and he can’t figure out the Pats for the life of him when it matters. But give him a big game at home and he’s usually got that team dialed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: My thing with Tomlin is he inevitably plays down to his competition especially on the road. Oh and he can’t figure out the Pats for the life of him when it matters. But give him a big game at home and he’s usually got that team dialed up. No one can figure out Belichick. I just refuse to use that as a standard by which to measure other coaches. He is 13-13 vs. John Harbaugh, another great coach. That's a better measuring stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The 10th win comes next August or September 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I don't think they will get to 10 wins i'm starting to believe the narrative that all their wins came by beating crap teams ! If Dabol doesn't utilize his talent better they may not even make it past 7 wins https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/11/11/20959111/snap-count-notes-buffalo-bills-at-cleveland-browns He may be a pass heavy coordinator but this is ridiculous !! Just look at the total of carries each running back got in yesterdays game & if that isn't a red flag i don't know what is !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Hopefully it comes from the game after our 9th win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 19 hours ago, letsgoteam said: Such a frustrating game, with the Bills blowing this one, where does the 10th win come? Assuming we beat the Dolphins, Broncos, Jets. Do they even get 10? Unfortunately, I am starting to feel that 9 wins is not going to capture a playoff spot with Pitt and Oakland doing their thing. I don't see them winning 10 games, they may even go 8-8. Its the Billsy thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Where does the 7th win come from? 3 hours ago, zonabb said: Skidding into 9-7, guaranteed. I could see them lose 5 more and make a nice 6-2 into an 8-8 finish. They absolutely get crushed by the Ravens. Lose embarrassingly on national TV on Thanksgiving to the Cowboys. Lose to the Steelers. Lose to the Pats. That's 7 losses. Can they win all three of Dolphins, Jets, and Broncos? Seriously doubt it. The most Billsy thing is to go to MIami this weekend and get beat. Season over right there. The Allen experiment then is teetering on the brink of collapse if he gets beat in a the most critical, stop-the-bleeding-and-prove-it game in a long time by Fitzpatrick. I would argue the Allen experiment is on life support right now. The only saving grace for the kid is that there is legit argument that he's got a bunch of #2 receivers who scare no one and an OL that can't sustain a running game. However, there is still that questionable decision-making, indecisiveness, and accuracy problem that you just don't "fix." I wanted this kid to be it even though I was a "never draft Allen" person. But I was willing to give him the chance. I see moments but I don't see him taking over games, dominating, and winning games easily like the great ones do. You can't make a career running an offense that averages less than 20 points a game in the NFL. This isn't 1960. Allen gets 2021 without McDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 19 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Ravens at home. They're bound to cool off. As the former Gov. of CA would say " Das a gud one..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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