I feel dirty after that Browns loss

[Bakin]

 

1) Haus - he's catching the most ***** for this loss. Obviously it’s not all on him but, as per usual with kickers, you can win and lose based on their foot. I like Haus but he seems to lose confidence when he blows it early. Seems like McD also has limited confidence in his kicker, too. Not sure about the rest of you but I was certain he was missing that final kick. Ah well - shake it off Hausmoney.....

 

2) Allen - what a mixed bag game for him. I didn’t see the fire in his eyes today. He made some excellent throws, and a few head scratchers. Long ball still not there. Clock management at the end of the game was really bad. Feliciano was gesturing like ‘let’s gooooooo’. I know that’s also on his coaches. Maybe they were telling him to slow it down. Josh did run the ball well....scoring 2 on the ground...but Christ that fumbling is just out of control. I give him a C- for today’s effort. 

3) Run D - still suspect. Gave up a lot of big chunks. Eventually an opposing coach will get smart and just keep doing it. Chubb probably could have run for 250 if they just kept feeding him. But then again our goal line D was just incredible today. Sweet Safety. Hard to blame the D for the loss but they certainly were culpable. 
 

(the rest of this post is LAMP)
 

Immediately after the game, I stripped off all the Bills gear and showered and shaved and vented. 

That was a dirty game and I felt dirty. 
Was nice to do that for a change as I haven’t been at my house for the last 3 games...

What the ***** is wrong with me?  
A 40ish year old grown man screaming at the TV and jumping up and down.

 

Anyway - we are 6-3. 
6-3. 
Say it with me - WE ARE 6 and 3!

This is a good team.
Certainly not a great team.

But as always - I remain hopeful and positive. 

I’m not going to B word and moan about how the season is over, fire everyone, we need a new Qb/OC...so just bail on this thread if that’s what you are looking for. 

 

Then again - I’m such a goddamn Homer that I never seem to lose faith in this team. 

The best is still yet to come. 

[billsfan_34]

1 minute ago, Bakin said:

 

1) Haus - he's catching the most ***** for this loss. Obviously it’s not all on him but, as per usual with kickers, you can win and lose based on their foot. I like Haus but he seems to lose confidence when he blows it early. Seems like McD also has limited confidence in his kicker, too. Not sure about the rest of you but I was certain he was missing that final kick. Ah well - shake it off Hausmoney.....

 

2) Allen - what a mixed bag game for him. I didn’t see the fire in his eyes today. He made some excellent throws, and a few head scratchers. Long ball still not there. Clock management at the end of the game was really bad. Feliciano was gesturing like ‘let’s gooooooo’. I know that’s also on his coaches. Maybe they were telling him to slow it down. Josh did run the ball well....scoring 2 on the ground...but Christ that fumbling is just out of control. I give him a C- for today’s effort. 

3) Run D - still suspect. Gave up a lot of big chunks. Eventually an opposing coach will get smart and just keep doing it. Chubb probably could have run for 250 if they just kept feeding him. But then again our goal line D was just incredible today. Sweet Safety. Hard to blame the D for the loss but they certainly were culpable. 
 

(the rest of this post is LAMP)
 

Immediately after the game, I stripped off all the Bills gear and showered and shaved and vented. 

That was a dirty game and I felt dirty. 
Was nice to do that for a change as I haven’t been at my house for the last 3 games...

What the ***** is wrong with me?  
A 40ish year old grown man screaming at the TV and jumping up and down.

 

Anyway - we are 6-3. 
6-3. 
Say it with me - WE ARE 6 and 3!

This is a good team.
Certainly not a great team.

But as always - I remain hopeful and positive. 

I’m not going to B word and moan about how the season is over, fire everyone, we need a new Qb/OC...so just bail on this thread if that’s what you are looking for. 

 

Then again - I’m such a goddamn Homer that I never seem to lose faith in this team. 

The best is still yet to come. 

I always feel dirty

[/dev/null]

How I felt after the miss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[That's No Moon]

2 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

How I felt after the miss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really? You couldn't see that coming? I didn't even have to watch it. I said to my wife, "he's going to miss this left." Then went to the bathroom.

 

Expect the Billsiest things possible. It's easier and more often than not you'll be right.  8-1 betting the money line in Bills games this year. It's like stealing. 

 

 

[Buddy Hix]

5 minutes ago, Bakin said:

 

1) Haus - he's catching the most ***** for this loss. Obviously it’s not all on him but, as per usual with kickers, you can win and lose based on their foot. I like Haus but he seems to lose confidence when he blows it early. Seems like McD also has limited confidence in his kicker, too. Not sure about the rest of you but I was certain he was missing that final kick. Ah well - shake it off Hausmoney.....

 

2) Allen - what a mixed bag game for him. I didn’t see the fire in his eyes today. He made some excellent throws, and a few head scratchers. Long ball still not there. Clock management at the end of the game was really bad. Feliciano was gesturing like ‘let’s gooooooo’. I know that’s also on his coaches. Maybe they were telling him to slow it down. Josh did run the ball well....scoring 2 on the ground...but Christ that fumbling is just out of control. I give him a C- for today’s effort. 

3) Run D - still suspect. Gave up a lot of big chunks. Eventually an opposing coach will get smart and just keep doing it. Chubb probably could have run for 250 if they just kept feeding him. But then again our goal line D was just incredible today. Sweet Safety. Hard to blame the D for the loss but they certainly were culpable. 
 

(the rest of this post is LAMP)
 

Immediately after the game, I stripped off all the Bills gear and showered and shaved and vented. 

That was a dirty game and I felt dirty. 
Was nice to do that for a change as I haven’t been at my house for the last 3 games...

What the ***** is wrong with me?  
A 40ish year old grown man screaming at the TV and jumping up and down.

 

Anyway - we are 6-3. 
6-3. 
Say it with me - WE ARE 6 and 3!

This is a good team.
Certainly not a great team.

But as always - I remain hopeful and positive. 

I’m not going to B word and moan about how the season is over, fire everyone, we need a new Qb/OC...so just bail on this thread if that’s what you are looking for. 

 

Then again - I’m such a goddamn Homer that I never seem to lose faith in this team. 

The best is still yet to come. 

This is not a good team, not even close. 6-3 is a product of an easy schedule.

 

The offensive and special teams units are awful, will most likely both be ranked in bottom 5 DVOA in the league after this game.

[Seven-N-Nine]

I disagree with the assertion that since their record is 6-3 it means that they are a good team. There are so many indicators to the contrary, it just so happens that the AFC this season is quite bad overall.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

I disagree with the assertion that since their record is 6-3 it means that they are a good team. There are so many indicators to the contrary, it just so happens that the AFC this season is quite bad overall.

That is because you are a glass if half empty person.......we all have learned to live with it

[delirious]

I find myself getting frustrated at the small things. Whether it's holding penalties, dropped passes, Josh holding the ball too long or not sliding when he should, jumping Offside, etc. 

[row_33]

you will get used to this kind of feeling, Bakin

 

[MDH]

Yeah, I’m with you in a that I’m a 46 year old man who turns into a petulant teenager when I watch the Bills. 
 

Football season between 1-4pm aren’t my brightest moments.

[Seven-N-Nine]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

That is because you are a glass if half empty person.......we all have learned to live with it

I don't know how a fan of NFL football can watch how this team has played, has been coached, and come away thinking they are a good team... That just seems like wishful thinking more than anything.

[goldenboy81]

6-3 is better than last year's 2-7 and this is a young team still..

I think it's important that they have stayed healthy, and still got a ways to go in the season.

Hopefully they start clicking and playing lights out soon

[row_33]

Just now, MDH said:

Yeah, I’m with you in a that I’m a 46 year old man who turns into a petulant teenager when I watch the Bills. 
 

Football season between 1-4pm aren’t my brightest moments.

 

you were around for the Jim Kelly Era

 

[Your Brown Eye]

[BuffaninSarasota]

12 minutes ago, goldenboy81 said:

6-3 is better than last year's 2-7 and this is a young team still..

I think it's important that they have stayed healthy, and still got a ways to go in the season.

Hopefully they start clicking and playing lights out soon

 

Sorry, but hope is not a strategy. What gives us any indication they are on the cusp of "clicking"? If anything they are misfiring and regressing to the mean. I almost lost it when Daboll called for a bomb on 3rd & 3 after the Browns FG. A screen to Singletary would have done it, while Allen hasn't come close to hitting on a deep ball all freaking season.

[Wo-Bah]

No disrespect, Sir, but this is not a good football team. 

[Mark Vader]

Not capitalizing after the Safety was huge.

 

Everything was going good on that last drive until the end. They should have called timeout when Singletary was unable to get out of bounds.

 

There was enough time to get closer for the field goal or to score a touchdown. Choosing to let the clock run was dumb.

[Virgil]

Hausch missing two is on him.  He makes either one and it’s in overtime at the minimum.  
 

No excuse for an NFL kicker and many have been cut for less.  Not saying that should happen 

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

I disagree with the assertion that since their record is 6-3 it means that they are a good team. There are so many indicators to the contrary, it just so happens that the AFC this season is quite bad overall.

You're right.  Record is actually not a particularly good indicator of quality, particularly because luck factors so much into individual wins and losses, among other things.

 

Most folks who participate at this forum don't understand this though, and will continue to love our record while there is a winning record to love.

 

 

[CodeMonkey]

Everyone in the Bills locker room should feel dirty, and very embarrassed.

[ProcessTruster]

36 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said:

No disrespect, Sir, but this is not a good football team. 

here we go again.... let me guess, the Bills didn't win

 

sigh...

[row_33]

2 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

here we go again.... let me guess, the Bills didn't win

 

sigh...

that would be the safe bet for 20 years now

 

[Phil The Thrill]

This game was such a bummer.  No Other way that you can spin it.  I feel really down on this team

[ProcessTruster]

Just now, Phil The Thrill said:

This game was such a bummer.  No Other way that you can spin it.  I feel really down on this team

so if they're 8-3 in two weeks , let me guess, you'll be doing playoff planning

 

what a bunch of fair weather fans. 

 

I saw some great things today.  So much fight in that defense.  Those goal line stands were amazing.   Offense has a ways to go, but no one expected that group to light it up this year anyway.  

 

Trust the Process.   This wasn't the year anyway.   Go get another drink.   Couple of winnables coming up. 

[Success]

Bad day for Hausch, obviously - but I did NOT get pretending to go for it on 4th, just for the 2% chance you could pull them Offside.

 

It was the equivalent of calling a TO to ice the kicker.  Hausch was ready to go in - you could see the coaches pushing him back on the sideline. For a guy whose confidence was already hurting, that did not help.

 

[jkeerie]

15 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

You're right.  Record is actually not a particularly good indicator of quality, particularly because luck factors so much into individual wins and losses, among other things.

 

Most folks who participate at this forum don't understand this though, and will continue to love our record while there is a winning record to love.

 

 

You know, I told myself when the season started not to have any expectations.   The record isn't important.   I just want to see growth and improvement over last year,  and for the Bills to be competitive.   The record took me away from that, and suddenly I had "great expectations. " 

So if I go back to my original plan for the season, there has been growth and for the most part the Bills have been competitive.  Where they've fallen short has been coaching and the kicking game. This makes games frustrating to watch, even if I have no expectations. 

[row_33]

2 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

so if they're 8-3 in two weeks , let me guess, you'll be doing playoff planning

 

what a bunch of fair weather fans. 

 

I saw some great things today.  So much fight in that defense.  Those goal line stands were amazing.   Offense has a ways to go, but no one expected that group to light it up this year anyway.  

 

Trust the Process.   This wasn't the year anyway.   Go get another drink.   Couple of winnables coming up. 

Buffalo fans  know bad football when they see it

 

 

[ProcessTruster]

9 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

You know, I told myself when the season started not to have any expectations.   The record isn't important.   I just want to see growth and improvement over last year,  and for the Bills to be competitive.   The record took me away from that, and suddenly I had "great expectations. " 

So if I go back to my original plan for the season, there has been growth and for the most part the Bills have been competitive.  Where they've fallen short has been coaching and the kicking game. This makes games frustrating to watch, even if I have no expectations. 

"...The record took me away from that, and suddenly I had "great expectations. " .."    yeah, don't do that.  you screwed up.  

 

back it up, people.  they are 6-3, with a better than even chance of being 8-3, 7-4 worst case,  in two weeks.  You would have taken that at the season's start, right?   McBeanes need at least 12 more months to get this roster right.  They have the cap space and drafting acumen to do it too.  Trust the Process. 

11 minutes ago, row_33 said:

Buffalo fans  know bad football when they see it

 

 

when they lose, you call it "bad football", when they win, its "they got it done".   fair weather fans, that what I call it.   watch the replay, that game was well competed.  really a pretty good game.   a great fight.   If Allen tosses 3 picks and they turn it over 5 times, that's bad football.  that game was not bad football. 

 

[wppete]

[Phil The Thrill]

26 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

so if they're 8-3 in two weeks , let me guess, you'll be doing playoff planning

 

what a bunch of fair weather fans. 

 

I saw some great things today.  So much fight in that defense.  Those goal line stands were amazing.   Offense has a ways to go, but no one expected that group to light it up this year anyway.  

 

Trust the Process.   This wasn't the year anyway.   Go get another drink.   Couple of winnables coming up. 

hate to tell you this... but TODAY was a winnable game.  The way the Bills are playing on offense they’ll be lucky to be 7-5.  They have a bad QB who fails to score more than 20 pts and a defense who can’t stop the run

 

They showed a lot of fight  at the end of the game, eh?

Edited November 11, 2019 by Phil The Thrill

[Bangarang]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

That is because you are a glass if half empty person.......we all have learned to live with it

Honestly, this is a mediocre team benefiting from having a weak schedule. We might squeak into the playoffs but my goodness do we have some glaring weakness on both sides of the ball.

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

1 hour ago, MDH said:

Yeah, I’m with you in a that I’m a 46 year old man who turns into a petulant teenager when I watch the Bills. 
 

Football season between 1-4pm aren’t my brightest moments.

I try and not use bad language around my kids when we watch (6,5,3) but the word “stupid” and the “GD worst flipping play call ever in this teams stupid history” came out today. 
 

i know i know, very tame, however, i wasn’t wrong. That deep fade on 3rd and 3 was the absolute worst. Like throwing when up late against the Cowboys. 

[BeastMaster]

We lost to the Browns who.have been awful all season.

 

Yes...I feel terrible, and this coaching staff should be ashamed of themselves for this loss.

[row_33]

22 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Honestly, this is a mediocre team benefiting from having a weak schedule. We might squeak into the playoffs but my goodness do we have some glaring weakness on both sides of the ball.

It’s more about the next 4 years than a fake playoff spot this year

 

[John from Riverside]

40 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Honestly, this is a mediocre team benefiting from having a weak schedule. We might squeak into the playoffs but my goodness do we have some glaring weakness on both sides of the ball.

I have maintained two things all season

 

Its probably a 10 and 6 team

Its not a finished product

And I am ok with that

 

Today was the first game of the season.....10 weekends in....where we lost a game we should have won....in previous years this team's schedule would be riddled with losses like that.

 

I think we have found our TE's.....SIngletary is a playmaker.....Josh is improving year to year and had an extremely high ceiling....the D is top 10 even with its run stop weaknesses

 

We have a full draft and 80 million in cap space going into this next offseason to find

 

A legit number one wide out (Brown is a 2 but a very good 2....Bease is a 3)

A pass rusher

Another linebacker

 

On a side note completely unrelated.....I think that this whole Ford/Ngsecki thing is preventing us from bring up someone who I think could be a RT starter for us.....Ryan Bates.

 

Its coming along....we will make the playoffs and feel good about it....and our schedule probably gets tougher....but our team should also improve in the offseason to match that

 

 

[Bangarang]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I have maintained two things all season

 

Its probably a 10 and 6 team

Its not a finished product

And I am ok with that

 

Today was the first game of the season.....10 weekends in....where we lost a game we should have won....in previous years this team's schedule would be riddled with losses like that.

 

I think we have found our TE's.....SIngletary is a playmaker.....Josh is improving year to year and had an extremely high ceiling....the D is top 10 even with its run stop weaknesses

 

We have a full draft and 80 million in cap space going into this next offseason to find

 

A legit number one wide out (Brown is a 2 but a very good 2....Bease is a 3)

A pass rusher

Another linebacker

 

On a side note completely unrelated.....I think that this whole Ford/Ngsecki thing is preventing us from bring up someone who I think could be a RT starter for us.....Ryan Bates.

 

Its coming along....we will make the playoffs and feel good about it....and our schedule probably gets tougher....but our team should also improve in the offseason to match that

 

 

I can’t be as blindly optimistic about next year as you. We expected Josh to make big strides, he

hasn’t, at least not to me. He’s improved in some areas but regressed in others and he’s part of why our offense sucks. He misses guys and misses opportunities to score points.

 

I think Daboll needs to go but then if that happens I’m sure we’ll hear excuses about needing a while for our team to gel in a new offense. I question McD’s ability to put together a solid offense and his in game management and adjustments leave a lot to be desired. 

[Sundancer]

Repeating this.

 

Browns have lost to

 

Niners

Rams

Titans

Seahawks

Pats

 

They destroyed the Ravens.

 

They are a long ways from a bad team. 

 

That's not apologizing for 266 yards passing, 2 missed FGs, throwing 3 yard passes in the last two minutes, 8 rushing attempts for Singletary, giving up 150 on the ground almost every game seemingly...but they lost to a team playing at home that is far from as bad as their record indicates.

Edited November 11, 2019 by Sundancer

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

If you lose to that Browns HC you should be punished. McD should be cleaning toilets at New Era for at least 2 days.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Me too I feel like a skid mark, the color of the victors today 

[Stank_Nasty]

32 minutes ago, row_33 said:

It’s more about the next 4 years than a fake playoff spot this year

 

I thought that’s what 2017 was. So now this one wouldnt count either?... if you could let me know when they actually count or matter that would be great. Thanks.