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8 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

 

The Jets will not go 0-7...they're better than 0-7.

 

What I know is that more than 90% of teams who win the turnover battle by 3 or more win the game.  The Jets weren't good enough to win a game yesterday that was gift-wrapped with a big shiny bow on top.  If you believe the Jets are "good enough" to beat the Browns, Pats***, Cowboys, and Eagles then you must think the Bills are really good.

 

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2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

What I know is that more than 90% of teams who win the turnover battle by 3 or more win the game.  The Jets weren't good enough to win a game yesterday that was gift-wrapped with a big shiny bow on top.  If you believe the Jets are "good enough" to beat the Browns, Pats***, Cowboys, and Eagles then you must think the Bills are really good.

 

 

I think our defense might be really good. Which means if our offense is good enough this team could win 10 or 11 games. 

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59 minutes ago, eball said:

When you can't take advantage of four gift-wrapped turnovers at home and blow a 16-pt 2nd half lead you know you're in trouble.  Next week the Jets get Cleveland on Monday night...if they don't win that one they are facing a gauntlet of @Pats***, @Eagles, Cowboys, Pats***, and @Jags, before finally catching a break by going to Miami.

 

Love it.

 

Doubt it, they are not a bad team. If teams can’t control Bell they will win some games. Probably a 7 win team this year.

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9 minutes ago, billspro said:

 

They are very top heavy with talent. A few injuries could make them brutal. Similar to our Whaley era. 

 

Idk. On D they have a couple of very bad corners and nothing coming off the edge. Their starting OLB is out for the year. On O their make shift line is very suspect (Kalil was dreadful yesterday), their receivers are second tier, and I don't trust google eyes to bring Darnold along. They've got Bell and Crowder. Ununwa is talented but made of glass. They are already at risk of falling apart IMO. Not Dolphin bad, but bad nevertheless. 

Kudos to Mosely. What a player. If he's out they are done like dinner. 

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1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

yes.  

 

If the following is correct 

Foles has hardly been a bastion of health himself.

2012: Broken hand, placed on IR

2013: Concussion, missed a game

2014: Broken collarbone, missed 8 games

2017: Elbow injury, missed entire preseason

2018: Bruised ribs

2019: Broken collarbone, out indefinitely

 

In 2017 and 2018 he was backup to an actual made of glass starter.  In that guy's place, he twice led them to the playoffs and won a SB.  He was ready to play when they needed him both years, so why mention "preseason"?

 

 

21 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

He must be Italian.

 

Fra--geee-lay

17 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

 

Idk. On D they have a couple of very bad corners and nothing coming off the edge. Their starting OLB is out for the year. On O their make shift line is very suspect (Kalil was dreadful yesterday), their receivers are second tier, and I don't trust google eyes to bring Darnold along. They've got Bell and Crowder. Ununwa is talented but made of glass. They are already at risk of falling apart IMO. Not Dolphin bad, but bad nevertheless. 

Kudos to Mosely. What a player. If he's out they are done like dinner. 

 

True.  Mosley was destroying the O-line yesterday.  Luckily JA can move a bit, but that guy was in the backfield until the groin.

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31 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Interesting how a non-playoff team with a 5-11 record gets not 1 but 2 MNF games?

They have Darnold, ESPN's darling from the 2018 draft class, and made a couple of big $$$ signings in FA. They hyped them up as a playoff team and possible AFC East contender so they want to broadcast the product of their hype-machine.

 

 

27 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

At this point, I'm kinda rooting for the Cleveland tire fire because it will be much more fun than the usual Jets mess.

Not me. I don't care is Clevalnd wins or loses, but I do want them to beat the Jets because of the response to RM above. I think they give Gase at least 2 years regardless so I want to see them crash and burn all the way throughout. 

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2 hours ago, eball said:

 

What I know is that more than 90% of teams who win the turnover battle by 3 or more win the game.  The Jets weren't good enough to win a game yesterday that was gift-wrapped with a big shiny bow on top.  If you believe the Jets are "good enough" to beat the Browns, Pats***, Cowboys, and Eagles then you must think the Bills are really good.

 

 

My belief before the season began was that if the Bills were able to beat the Jets twice, beat the Browns, and avoid major injuries, that they'd be a team right at the top fighting for a wildcard berth, or that they would make the playoffs outright while other teams in the AFC were battling for that last spot.

 

I think both the Jets and the Browns are teams on the rise, so the Bills beating the Jets once in the fashion that they did on the road, is a good indicator that Bills are also to be mentioned as a team on the rise IMO. 

 

I'm not buying that the Browns are as bad as that thrashing suggests they are, nor am I buying that Jets are 0-7 bad. 

 

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1 hour ago, KD in CA said:

 

At this point, I'm kinda rooting for the Cleveland tire fire because it will be much more fun than the usual Jets mess.

 

Cleveland doesn't have it easy early on either. After the Jets they have Rams, Ravens, 49ers, Seahawks and Patriots. Those teams are 5-0 after week one.

 

I'm hoping both these teams go down in flames. I feel for Browns fans (how could you not) but I really don't like the makeup of the team. I love to see teams that "win the offseason" crash and burn.

8 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

 

I'm not buying that the Browns are as bad as that thrashing suggests they are, nor am I buying that Jets are 0-7 bad. 

 

 

My guess is whichever one comes out of next week's game 0-2 will be in for a long season.

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4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I'll actually be rooting for the Jets on MNF. I see the Browns as a more serious wildcard contender and the Jets could realistically lose their next 5 games after that.

 

Good point.

2 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Interesting how a non-playoff team with a 5-11 record gets not 1 but 2 MNF games?

 

Couldn’t possibly care less. Night football games are one of the most overrated things going.

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On 9/9/2019 at 2:58 PM, Mr. WEO said:

In 2017 and 2018 he was backup to an actual made of glass starter.  In that guy's place, he twice led them to the playoffs and won a SB.  He was ready to play when they needed him both years, so why mention "preseason"?

 

Injuries are injuries.  

 

Hell, people were panicking Morse had 4 concussions in as many years.  

 

 

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Damn autocorrect Morse
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6 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Interesting how a non-playoff team with a 5-11 record gets not 1 but 2 MNF games?

May be a sacrificial lamb type of schelduling, at least that's the way it looks now. Not sure who the second game is against, but with Cleveland being one, that game was supposed to be hype vs hype. Wonder what they think of that choice now?

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8 hours ago, eball said:

When you can't take advantage of four gift-wrapped turnovers at home and blow a 16-pt 2nd half lead you know you're in trouble.  Next week the Jets get Cleveland on Monday night...if they don't win that one they are facing a gauntlet of @Pats***, @Eagles, Cowboys, Pats***, and @Jags, before finally catching a break by going to Miami.

 

Love it.

They played the Bills, one of the best teams in the NFL right now. They should win a few games.

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If they have Q and Mosley available for Cleveland, the Jets could win that game. 

 

The Browns defense isn’t that good, so the Jets should be able to score some points.   

 

Beckham, Landry and Njoku should be a nightmare for the Jets Secondary, but the Browns OL is pretty bad. 

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10 hours ago, H2o said:

I said this in another thread a couple of weeks ago. The first 7 weeks of their schedule is tough. I said if they lost to us then 0-7 was a real possibility. Gase is going to waste the next two years of Darnold for Jets fans. :thumbsup:

 

 

I honestly expected the Bills to lay a complete beat down on the Jets.

 

Gase reminds me a lot of Todd Haley and the Bills went into KC in 2011 on opening day and stunned everyone by obliterating Haley's burgeoning sh*t show.

 

Meanwhile I am listening to NFL observers all week saying that the Jets are going to be a "really good team"?    With that OL and those CB's?   Forget the Gase factor......it's hard to win with a glaring weakness on both sides of the ball.

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3 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

Injuries are injuries.  

 

Hell, people were panicking Mose had 4 concussions in as many years.  

 

 

 

I don't know, man.

I thought the last concussion Mose took looked pretty serious

 

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My AFC EAST prediction 

New England 14-2 

Buffalo 9-7 

NY Jets 4-12

Miami 2-14 

5 minutes ago, Cygnus99 said:

My AFC EAST prediction 

New England 14-2 ( Pats sweeps us and everyone else in the division ) 

Buffalo 9-7 ( We beat the NY Jets / sweep them and make it to the wild card playoffs ) 

NY Jets 4-12 ( They beat Miami once and get 3 other wins perhaps the Browns and 2 upsets wins ) 

Miami 2-14 ( Split with the NY Jets and one upset win against an NFC opponent  ) 

 

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On 9/9/2019 at 11:50 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I honestly expected the Bills to lay a complete beat down on the Jets.

 

Gase reminds me a lot of Todd Haley and the Bills went into KC in 2011 on opening day and stunned everyone by obliterating Haley's burgeoning sh*t show.

 

Meanwhile I am listening to NFL observers all week saying that the Jets are going to be a "really good team"?    With that OL and those CB's?   Forget the Gase factor......it's hard to win with a glaring weakness on both sides of the ball.

 

This is what had me scratching my head when I heard all of these pundits lauding the Jest. How in holy hell are you going to be "good" with a bad o-line AND secondary??

 

BTW, I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread yet but WFAN just said that Darnold is out with mono and Bell, apparently, has a shoulder injury. You just can't make this stuff up with this dysfunctional organization. ?:beer:

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On 9/9/2019 at 2:09 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

I hope they are bad but not horrible bad...because I want Gase back next year.

Funny, I was just thinking, if they go 0-7 to start the season, Gase may not last the year as head coach.  That team will take on the personality of it's coach, which is erratic and inconsistent at best, which means they will self destruct under pressure.  Hopefully, if he does get fired, he leaves them in shambles like he did with the Fins.

16 minutes ago, eball said:

Darnold has mono and may be out "several weeks" for the Jets.

 

Just

End

The

Season

LOL. and so it begins...

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5 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Funny, I was just thinking, if they go 0-7 to start the season, Gase may not last the year as head coach.  That team will take on the personality of it's coach, which is erratic and inconsistent at best, which means they will self destruct under pressure.  Hopefully, if he does get fired, he leaves them in shambles like he did with the Fins.

LOL. and so it begins...

 

Jets fire Gase, Dolphins fire Flores.  Jets repeat strategies and hire Flores.

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