Lurker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Big C said: Totally. Beane just knows how to GM speak here. I think Jay's wrong here. Beane likely knew a week ago that no one was trading for Shady. I can totally see them being above board about wanting to help him pick his next team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 McCoy will go thru wavers. Then he has a good chance of being picked up at a lower salary if he's willing to accept that. Probably once someone gets hurt. How about Dallas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, first_and_ten said: McCoy will go thru wavers. Then he has a good chance of being picked up at a lower salary if he's willing to accept that. Probably once someone gets hurt. How about Dallas? McCoy is not subject to waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, first_and_ten said: McCoy will go thru wavers. Then he has a good chance of being picked up at a lower salary if he's willing to accept that. Probably once someone gets hurt. How about Dallas? Houston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Houston Yes, could be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Some team will pick him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 At least we don't have to read the "What could we get for McCoy" threads. There's your answer. Nothing. There's no market for 31-yr old RBs with that salary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, QCity said: At least we don't have to read the "What could we get for McCoy" threads. There's your answer. Nothing. There's no market for 31-yr old RBs with that salary. That's sort of Lesson 1 to be learned here. Lesson #2 is look at Singletary! He has come from nowhere to be "The Man." Lesson #3: Never pay a lot of $$$ for a running back in this league! They grow on trees and you can always get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Big C said: McCoy is not subject to waivers. So he is free to sign with anyone without going thru the waiver process? So his salary is gone immediately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Good decision at the correct time: had to be done IMO. What are the salary cap and dead money implications? LIked Shady a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 They couldn’t get anything for him? Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: So he is free to sign with anyone without going thru the waiver process? So his salary is gone immediately? Yes, vested veterans do not go through waivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, first_and_ten said: So he is free to sign with anyone without going thru the waiver process? So his salary is gone immediately? Yes. His contract is terminated with us and he can sign a brand new contract anywhere immediately. However, as a vested vet, any contract he signs now must be fully guaranteed. If he signs after week one, it does not have to be guaranteed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, iinii said: They couldn’t get anything for him? Hmmmm Not at a $6.1M salary they couldn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes, vested veterans do not go through waivers Thanks for clearing me up on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 39 minutes ago, Virgil said: What’s your new screen name going to be? I hear VirgilFan is available Or MragsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The only surprising part to me is that he was cut. I have not thought he'd be on the roster week 1 since after the first preseason game. I thought we'd get a pick but oh well. Thanks for the memories, Shady. As for Singletary now that Shady has been cut all I can say is... The king is dead, long live the king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 At least Cole Beasley wont be subjected to Shady's bullyung about his height anymore 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I remember thinking that the preseason seemed very much like a tryout/evalutation between Gore and Shady. I know that is what preseason is for, but the way they structured it for those two especially. Gore got all the first team reps week1, Shady didn't play. Shady got all of the 1st team reps game 2, Gore doesn't play. And week 3 they alternate series with the 1st team. Gore performed better, choice was an easy one for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Cap space for Clowney??? Maybe Houston settled for 2 LBs and a third for Clowney so that they could sign McCoy. 3 hours ago, auburnbillsbacker said: I dont know why we cut him. Is it s problem having too many good RBs? They have cap space. It's $6.1 million the Bills don't have to pay in actual salary, which is what is apparently important to the current regime. Last year, the Bills were among the lowest teams in actual salaries paid, and I'm guessing they're trying to repeat again. The plan for the offense seems to be to surround Allen with JAGs and rookies and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Wow this move is really head scratching to me. Thank you McCOy for you great services here. I hope you land somewhere and tear it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, stevewin said: At least Cole Beasley wont be subjected to Shady's bullyung about his height anymore And we won't have to look at photographs of McCoy's extensive collection of Louis Vuitton luggage, bags, clothing, and accessories. Just now, Real McCoy said: Wow this move is really head scratching to me. Thank you McCOy for you great services here. I hope you land somewhere and tear it up. You may need a new username. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I dont know why this is a surprise to anyone really. Maybe in how long they took to release him but other than that, he was awful last year and he's a 31 year old injury prone RB making too much money. The writing was on the wall when they drafted DS so early, Shady was done here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, PaulieYayo said: I dont know why this is a surprise to anyone really. Maybe in how long they took to release him but other than that, he was awful last year and he's a 31 year old injury prone RB making too much money. The writing was on the wall when they drafted DS so early, Shady was done here Any RB in the league behind the joke of an Oline we had last year would have sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Only surprise is ...he was cut. Not traded. I find it hard to believe they couldn't get anyrtfor him? Only thing that makes sense.. is they figured the benefit of cutting him and allowing him to choose his next team was worth more in player goodwill than a late around pick. I hope the move works out. For our Bills and McCoy. He was a a lot of fun to watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, PaulieYayo said: I dont know why this is a surprise to anyone really. Maybe in how long they took to release him but other than that, he was awful last year and he's a 31 year old injury prone RB making too much money. The writing was on the wall when they drafted DS so early, Shady was done here I am not against the move, but I think the surprising part is that we are not hurting for cap space and that would seem to be the best reason to make the move. Unless someone thinks Yeldon is better than McCoy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Real McCoy said: Any RB in the league behind the joke of an Oline we had last year would have sucked. While that's partly true he gave up on plays a lot, he just isn't the same guy after that concussion he got 2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I am not against the move, but I think the surprising part is that we are not hurting for cap space and that would seem to be the best reason to make the move. Unless someone thinks Yeldon is better than McCoy? That's true, there must be a reason we dont know about at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dan said: Only surprise is ...he was cut. Not traded. I find it hard to believe they couldn't get anyrtfor him? Only thing that makes sense.. is they figured the benefit of cutting him and allowing him to choose his next team was worth more in player goodwill than a late around pick. I hope the move works out. For our Bills and McCoy. He was a a lot of fun to watch! Stop writing this stuff! BB made it very clear they shopped him around and could not find a trade partner. That makes a lot of sense. He's on the wrong side of 30 and makes too much money at a team when good RBs are all over the place and not valued highly. The only people who think McCoy was some type of elite name are Bills fans, who tend to grossly overestimate Bills talent anyway. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, SoTier said: Maybe Houston settled for 2 LBs and a third for Clowney so that they could sign McCoy. It's $6.1 million the Bills don't have to pay in actual salary, which is what is apparently important to the current regime. Last year, the Bills were among the lowest teams in actual salaries paid, and I'm guessing they're trying to repeat again. The plan for the offense seems to be to surround Allen with JAGs and rookies and hope for the best. Yeah. Gore is JAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I believe that Beane's comment was to spare Shady the embarrassment of not being pursued for a trade. IF Beane got an offer (even a 7th) I would think he would at least give Shady the option. A Shady trade would have kept him the 6+ million of salary for this year. He will be making a lot less now as a FA. It's a tough business and I thank Shady for his time in Buffalo and wish him the best. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Stop writing this stuff! BB made it very clear they shopped him around and could not find a trade partner. That makes a lot of sense. He's on the wrong side of 30 and makes too much money at a team when good RBs are all over the place and not valued highly. The only people who think McCoy was some type of elite name are Bills fans, who tend to grossly overestimate Bills talent anyway. Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) Some fans have been predicting Shady would be cut or traded since the end of last season. Congrats - you were right and I was wrong. I felt McCoy still had juice in the tank and was clearly one of our best backs - if not still the very best back on the roster. Given we didn't need to free up cap space this year, I didn't think his salary would be an issue. So, personally, I'm stunned. With cap not an issue, TJ Yeldon beat out LeSean McCoy for a roster spot? Beane is saying: “We do see this being a running back by committee, whatever group that we kept. We’re excited with where (Singletary is) heading, but he’ll have a lot to prove as a rookie this year.” https://www.buffalobills.com/news/brandon-beane-lesean-mccoy-decision-difficult-opportunity-is-now-for-devin-singl Edited August 31, 2019 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: Stop writing this stuff! BB made it very clear they shopped him around and could not find a trade partner. That makes a lot of sense. He's on the wrong side of 30 and makes too much money at a team when good RBs are all over the place and not valued highly. The only people who think McCoy was some type of elite name are Bills fans, who tend to grossly overestimate Bills talent anyway. Agree to a great extent. The very CASUAL NFL fan would still believe McCoy had some trade value. He had none. 30 plus y/o RB's on a steady decline making 6 mil per have no trade value. ZERO. The level to which people don't understand the way the NFL works, and no offense to the poster quoted, is really tough to ignore. NFL Twitter is acting like the Bills just cut Todd Gurley. They don't watch many Bills games, so their reference point is a Lesean McCoy that no longer exists. This is a much bigger national story than it is a Bills story. If you're SHOCKED, you haven't been paying attention. The fact that he was playing in the 3rd QTR of the 2nd preseason game was a telltale sign. Glad we'll have a chance to find out if Singletary is legit. Edited August 31, 2019 by LSHMEAB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said: I felt McCoy still had juice in the tank and was clearly one of our best backs - if not still the very best back on the roster. Given we didn't need to free up cap space this year, I didn't think his salary would be an issue. So, personally, I'm stunned. With cap not an issue, TJ Yeldon beat out LeSean McCoy for a roster spot? Yep, I’m the same way. Although, I think the trio of Gore/Singletary/Yeldon will give us some punch still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The thing I don't like about this move is that I'm not entirely convinced that Singletary is ready as of right now and I think it would have been beneficial to have him be here with Shady and Gore for a year before taking over. Shady was a team player in my opinion. He cared about the team and wanted help this team as much as he could. It makes no sense having Gore here without him especially since McCoy had a part in having Gore brought here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said: Some fans have been predicting Shady would be cut or traded since the end of last season. Congrats - you were right and I was wrong. I felt McCoy still had juice in the tank and was clearly one of our best backs - if not still the very best back on the roster. Given we didn't need to free up cap space this year, I didn't think his salary would be an issue. So, personally, I'm stunned. With cap not an issue, TJ Yeldon beat out LeSean McCoy for a roster spot? I agree with the first bolded part, but it's a little harder to quantify the second. I mean, none of us were there everyday, in the rooms, on the practice field, etc. Shady is still a talented guy, but for how long? I'm a little sad to see him go, but not sad that a much younger back in Singletary is going to get a shot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, hondo in seattle said: Some fans have been predicting Shady would be cut or traded since the end of last season. Congrats - you were right and I was wrong. I felt McCoy still had juice in the tank and was clearly one of our best backs - if not still the very best back on the roster. Given we didn't need to free up cap space this year, I didn't think his salary would be an issue. So, personally, I'm stunned. With cap not an issue, TJ Yeldon beat out LeSean McCoy for a roster spot? I think it's possible that it's style over substance. McCoy needs a good amount of carries. He'll have a couple bad ones and a couple good ones - especially at this point in his career. He doesn't fill the role of back up and is skill set isn't conducive to getting some carries. We all agree that the offensive line was a mess last year but I think some of the issues with McCoy were losing some of that elusiveness and in small part a lack of effort. He didn't want to get pounded and that was the type of back needed last year. FF to this year and he's possibly not a fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I am not against the move, but I think the surprising part is that we are not hurting for cap space and that would seem to be the best reason to make the move. Unless someone thinks Yeldon is better than McCoy? Maybe for what they want in a role...Yeldon is better than McCoy. Meaning..if they decided that Singletary is going to get the bulk of the carries...and Gore is going to be the veteran/pass blocking back/locker room guy.....then the only 'position' left for RB3 is a guy who is a 3rd down back/ride the bench guy. Maybe they feel Yeldon will be better at...or at least fit the role better than McCoy...and a MUCH lower salary. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Maybe for what they want in a role...Yeldon is better than McCoy. Meaning..if they decided that Singletary is going to get the bulk of the carries...and Gore is going to be the veteran/pass blocking back/locker room guy.....then the only 'position' left for RB3 is a guy who is a 3rd down back/ride the bench guy. Maybe they feel Yeldon will be better at...or at least fit the role better than McCoy...and a MUCH lower salary. Not buying it, makes TOO much sense! I don't even need a tinfoil hat on to understand this theory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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