Irv Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I really can't think of one. Maybe it's a sign of the prior years purges and the team sucked last year, but I think we have a GM that knows what he is doing. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Excellent and positive observation. Every year it is usually named= the positions were we need to fill holes. We have a LOT of competition in a lot of areas, RB, WR, O Line, and TE. I hate to say this but outside linebackers are a concern for me. Lorax isn't getting any younger and Milano coming off an injury scares me and we dont have much behind them. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 TE is worse with Clay gone. You could argue D Line with Williams retiring. Other than that, we have improved. Beane sacrificed last year for results this year and in the future. Of course he knows what’s he’s doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Probably pass catching TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 TE OLB DAnderson retiring hurts a little too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) It does not appear that way. I suppose the tight end and DE spots are yet to be determined. May take team time to operate as a cohesive unit due to high turnover. Edited May 23, 2019 by Rocket94 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 this off season was definitely a step forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) If we don't improve the punting, I am done with this team .. Edited May 23, 2019 by HOUSE 4 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Can't we have at least one cheerleader ? 4 3 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 The DBs were excellent last year and they're not really old but they're not youngsters either. If anything someone back there might lose a step. Maybe this won't happen and this is just looking for problems where there aren't really any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I'm not sure we got any better at the RB position. If you had to choose, this would be my pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Chill said: TE is worse with Clay gone. You could argue D Line with Williams retiring. Other than that, we have improved. Beane sacrificed last year for results this year and in the future. Of course he knows what’s he’s doing. If Knox turns out to be the player Beane thinks he will be it is a one step back before two steps forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Chill said: TE is worse with Clay gone. You could argue D Line with Williams retiring. Other than that, we have improved. Beane sacrificed last year for results this year and in the future. Of course he knows what’s he’s doing. Remember that we are talking about 2018. Not what a player has been throughout his entire career. Charles Clay was terrible last year. Absolutely no separation, hands of stone and nothing after the catch. I don't think we missed anything when he was out of the lineup and Jason Croom was playing. So honestly, it could be argued that Lee Smith is an upgrade over last year's Clay. He is a better blocker, and his pass catching couldn't be worse than what Clay offered in 2018. In the same way, Kyle Williams also took a step back in 2018. At least in the pass rushing department, you just didn't see the consistent burst off the line. He wasn't a liability. But he wasn't his normal Pro-Bowl self either. I don't think it's unrealistic for Ed Oliver to give us similar results as a rookie. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I would say we got worse at inside D-Line. Oliver is a stud but hes still a rookie, no chance he can 1:1 replace Kyle. TE is likely a wash. LB will depend on how Milano comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I like having to struggle to come up with a good answer to this one. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Leadership wise we got worse with Kyle leaving. But the DLine got better with Oliver added from an ability standpoint. The ability and speed this guy has is top notch. Upgrade over Kyle in that regard. We will see how it pans out. As for LB's, We upgraded from where we were last season at the end of the year. Milano healthy and another year for our Very young MLB will help this along. TE is upgraded, even with Kroft injured (who knows how he would have been) but Dixon I think will be a stud. I think we have too many people sleeping on just how good this kid will be. And Adding Smith as a blocking TE brings it up as well. RB's is better because we got better at the OLine significantly. With Morris being the key to it all. We could put an Avg RB as a starter and with a good Oline, he will be having good numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, Chill said: TE is worse with Clay gone. You could argue D Line with Williams retiring. Other than that, we have improved. Beane sacrificed last year for results this year and in the future. Of course he knows what’s he’s doing. Worse huh? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) Can we watch a real game first before commenting? All they are now are names on paper and projections from past performance. No idea how they shake out this year. Edited May 23, 2019 by BubbaT 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 TE & DL, but we'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I think we'll struggle at the DE position; we have Hughes and Shaq Lawson - which until proven otherwise is still largely potential. And after that, not much.. The DTs are going to have to be better than last year to get a good edge rush. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Remember that we are talking about 2018. Not what a player has been throughout his entire career. Charles Clay was terrible last year. Absolutely no separation, hands of stone and nothing after the catch. I don't think we missed anything when he was out of the lineup and Jason Croom was playing. So honestly, it could be argued that Lee Smith is an upgrade over last year's Clay. He is a better blocker, and his pass catching couldn't be worse than what Clay offered in 2018. In the same way, Kyle Williams also took a step back in 2018. At least in the pass rushing department, you just didn't see the consistent burst off the line. He wasn't a liability. But he wasn't his normal Pro-Bowl self either. I don't think it's unrealistic for Ed Oliver to give us similar results as a rookie. ...a very fair, all around assessment.............still PLENTY of time for additional roster changes, but nothing currently to panic about quite yet.....barely know the names of 90 in the barn let alone abilities with TE being the concern here..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Irv said: I really can't think of one. Maybe it's a sign of the prior years purges and the team sucked last year, but I think we have a GM that knows what he is doing. TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Seniors Perry! https://youtu.be/FhlWZ4dl00c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Chill said: TE is worse with Clay gone. You could argue D Line with Williams retiring. Other than that, we have improved. Beane sacrificed last year for results this year and in the future. Of course he knows what’s he’s doing. Debatable. Croom was the leading receiver at the TE position. Clay didn't even crack 200 yards, and Logan Thomas was the #3. If Kroft is healthy, then I would argue it will be a better group. Kroft, Smith, Croom, and Knox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA OC Bills Fan Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 According to Vic Carucci (link below), the Bills got better at QB, RB, Rec/TE, OL, DL, ST and stayed the same at LB and Secondary, didn't get worse in any position grouping. I tend to agree, but of course as others have said, we won't know till the games start. Impossible to predict when players slow down to the point of being ineffective or how soon a rookie or other young player starts living up to their potential (or if they ever will live up to expectations). This was also written before this week's injury report, but I don't think that would have changed the receiver/TE combination assessment. https://buffalonews.com/2019/05/20/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-sean-mcdermott-brandon-beane-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 ...VERY concerned nobody has earned the "TBD Bust" moniker this late in.......are we witnessing "membership lethargy"?.....something ain't passin' the "smell test" here.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Worse huh? All part of The Plan to get Oliver where we did. He was in on it! ? you know......maybe..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Lol at everyone saying TE. Clay was horrible last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Can't we have at least one cheerleader ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Lol at everyone saying TE. Clay was horrible last year. Yep, Clay was bad. After him there was no one. I think TE and WR are the positions we'll see the largest improvement in this year. Last year was bad in both positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, CA OC Bills Fan said: According to Vic Carucci (link below), the Bills got better at QB, RB, Rec/TE, OL, DL, ST and stayed the same at LB and Secondary, didn't get worse in any position grouping. I tend to agree, but of course as others have said, we won't know till the games start. Impossible to predict when players slow down to the point of being ineffective or how soon a rookie or other young player starts living up to their potential (or if they ever will live up to expectations). This was also written before this week's injury report, but I don't think that would have changed the receiver/TE combination assessment. https://buffalonews.com/2019/05/20/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-sean-mcdermott-brandon-beane-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ I disagree with his secondary assessment, but agree on the rest. After Davis walked out halfway through the Charger game, CB2 was a revolving door. . Wallace settled it down in the second half of the season. Gaines, Wallace, and K Johnson make it better, and taron Johnson will be better in year 2 as well. They also have more depth at S. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Not like that, like this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Chill said: TE is worse with Clay gone. You could argue D Line with Williams retiring. Other than that, we have improved. Beane sacrificed last year for results this year and in the future. Of course he knows what’s he’s doing. I don't know how anyone can think we're worse off with our current group then with Clay... Oliver is likely an upgrade talent wise, but losing experience and leadership is definitely a downgrade there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I'm not sure we got any better at the RB position. If you had to choose, this would be my pick. Incomplete currently. I'm telling you, Gore is gonna go OJ Anderson for us............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roch Jim Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Good question. I think every position is either a solid upgrade (every position group on offensive, DL, CB) or a wash (outside LB, safety,kicking ) However, this answer will always be driven by injuries . Last year, we were fairly fortunate with health. But an injury to Tremaine makes us worse at MLB. An injury to Tre'Davious makes us worse at CB. Added depth at O'Line and WR makes it almost a lock we have to be better there regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, r00tabaga said: TE OLB DAnderson retiring hurts a little too. Maybe.... watching him play hurt a lot though. As for where they got worse...I’m going DT. Kyle was s stud, and was one of the best on the field at the position. There was certainly an effort to address it, but it’s all unproven at this stage Edited May 23, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 We did not address our lack of depth at long snapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Chill said: TE is worse with Clay gone. You could argue D Line with Williams retiring. Other than that, we have improved. Beane sacrificed last year for results this year and in the future. Of course he knows what’s he’s doing. I understand your thoughts. But, disagree on Clay. I think the uncertainty of his health, lack of practice time and the ability for others to get consistent reps will have us better st the position. IF Clay was making a solid impact on game days which I don’t think he did I would lean towards your direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Lol at everyone saying TE. Clay was horrible last year. Right!? It is as clear as day! He was absolutely useless last year. It is not even debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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