BillsfaninSB Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Hearing that the Cowboys and Cooper are far apart on extension. We punted Brown. Would you take a run at a trade with Dallas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I thought it had something to do with him growing dreadlocks in the offseason...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsfaninSB said: Hearing that the Cowboys and Cooper are far apart on extension. We punted Brown. Would you take a run at a trade with Dallas? They just traded a 1st rounder for him. Why would they trade him already? They can always tag him if needed. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Gambit said: They just traded a 1st rounder for him. Why would they trade him already? They can always tag him if needed. Prescott and Elliot are due as well. Not enough to go around? Cooper threatens to sit out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, BillsfaninSB said: Prescott and Elliot are due as well. Not enough to go around? Cooper threatens to sit out I suppose that could happen. Just doesn't make sense to blow a 1st rounder and get rid of him. Now if they can get a 1st rounder back, then I could see him being dealt already. I highly doubt he gets moved this year tho. Maybe tag and trade next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 No Ill pass. Sounds like next years draft is loaded with WRs. Think we are good this year... 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Where did we punt Brown to? Inside the 10? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gambit said: They just traded a 1st rounder for him. Why would they trade him already? They can always tag him if needed. If you look at Dak Prescott's splits, his Y/G post-Cooper-trade took a significant jump. Not only would it be nuts to trade a guy they just packed off a 1st rounder to get, it would be nuts to trade a guy who is obviously a key piece their young QB needed. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you look at Dak Prescott's splits, his Y/G post-Cooper-trade took a significant jump. Not only would it be nuts to trade a guy they just packed off a 1st rounder to get, it would be nuts to trade a guy who is obviously a key piece their young QB needed. I agree with you but Prescott wants +$30M. Elliot wants a huge contract like Bell. Cooper wants Brown type money. How do they afford all of that? Not saying the Bills go do it but he is 24, in his prime. Can be a huge help to Josh. Edited May 7, 2019 by BillsfaninSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Hopefully once the Bills get Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Kyle Rudolph, Deez Bryant, Mike Evans, and Cooper, there will be no more excuses for Allen. That would arguably be a solid receiving core. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Hopefully once the Bills get Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Kyle Rudolph, Deez Bryant, Mike Evans, and Cooper, there will be no more excuses for Allen. That would arguably be a solid receiving core. A lot of red flags in that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 54 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: Hearing that the Cowboys and Cooper are far apart on extension. We punted Brown. Would you take a run at a trade with Dallas? I don't like running into brick walls so...no. I heard Poyer and his wife are having marital difficulties though and I would take a run at her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I'm thinking they get a deal done, they gave up a lot to get him and unfortunately for them, Amari has the leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 They'll get all 3 of Dak/Cooper/Zeke done. By the time they sign their rookies and roll over cap space, they'll be about $70M under the cap for 2020. That includes Zeke's option year number of $9.1M, and they can easily gain another $15M by letting go of Tyrone Crawford and Cam Fleming. The real question is what they do with the rest of their 2020 free agents: La'el Collins, Robert Quinn, Sean Lee, Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, Jaylon Smith, Maliek Collins, Anthony Brown, and Kavon Frazier. They'll probably be looking at a heft sum of comp picks in 2021. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knicks&Bills Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 He is a beast, but under the circumstances I’ll pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalophil1948 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said: I agree with you but Prescott wants +$30M. Elliot wants a huge contract like Bell. Cooper wants Brown type money. How do they afford all of that? Not saying the Bills go do it but he is 24, in his prime. Can be a huge help to Josh. Plus didn't they just give Lawrence $20 mil a year? If they sign Dac, Elliott, and amari close to half there cap is tied up in 4 players. Not a great scenario for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Knicks&Bills said: He is a beast, but under the circumstances I’ll pass ...when the Raiders floated the trade idea, don't recall McBeane's name or interest coming up, so why now if the Pokes can't reach a deal?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: Hearing that the Cowboys and Cooper are far apart on extension. We punted Brown. Would you take a run at a trade with Dallas? NE has done it for a long time without spending high dollar on WRs. I dont see him adding enough value to justify spending that much. If Jerry isnt willing to pay what hes asking then that should tell you something. 1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said: I agree with you but Prescott wants +$30M. Elliot wants a huge contract like Bell. Cooper wants Brown type money. How do they afford all of that? Not saying the Bills go do it but he is 24, in his prime. Can be a huge help to Josh. Prescott isnt worth 30M. Edited May 7, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: Hearing that the Cowboys and Cooper are far apart on extension. We punted Brown. Would you take a run at a trade with Dallas? Isn't the next draft supposed to be the best ever??? Let's get an up and comer... cheap! Cooper isn't worth Brown money... pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 If Cooper is having an extension problem, shouldn't this thread go in to the Off The Wall section? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: NE has done it for a long time without spending high dollar on WRs. I dont see him adding enough value to justify spending that much. If Jerry isnt willing to pay what hes asking then that should tell you something. Prescott isnt worth 30M. Correct, I wouldn’t give Dak more than $25 million....and even that is debatable imo....he’s basically a glorified game manager. Edited May 7, 2019 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I read on this board you don't need number 1 recievers though... This board read our GM saying so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I thought it had something to do with him growing dreadlocks in the offseason...? Definitely hgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Next years draft should be loaded with WRs and CBs. I agree we should wait till then. Edited May 7, 2019 by billieve420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I read on this board you don't need number 1 recievers though... Fair point!! Look at Antonio’s, I mean AJ’s, I mean Julio’s, I mean Fitzgerald’s, I mean Evans’, I mean Sammy’s, Brandon Marshall? Juju? Diggs? Theilen? Hill? I mean OBJ’s, I mean ugh.. ffs is Alston Jeffery the best active WR with a ring? Or is it Edelman? Emanuel Sanders? Roger that - WR1 ... nice to have. A necessity of myth. Edited May 7, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Correct, I wouldn’t give Dak more than $25 million....and even that is debatable imo....he’s basically a glorified game manager. Not even worthy of the glorification. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Edleman? The guy who has the GOAT throwing him the ball? Ok sorry. I'll rephrase. A number one WR, especially for a young, RAW QB who struggles to throw guys open will take immense pressure off of him and be reliable as he grows and adapts to the NFL game when your other guys are struggling to get separation... You don't really need a number 1 WR when you have Tom ***** Brady as your QB. Immense pressure ? Struggling to get seperation ? Josh Allen is no longer a rookie They revamped the O line and then some. The WR room is greatly changed as is the TE team. last year O line and WRs were suspect in my opinion. Allen was tossed into the salad while it was in the spinner. This year should be fine. get a cherry for the Sundae next year maybe. or the year after that. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 3 hours ago, thebandit27 said: They'll get all 3 of Dak/Cooper/Zeke done. By the time they sign their rookies and roll over cap space, they'll be about $70M under the cap for 2020. That includes Zeke's option year number of $9.1M, and they can easily gain another $15M by letting go of Tyrone Crawford and Cam Fleming. The real question is what they do with the rest of their 2020 free agents: La'el Collins, Robert Quinn, Sean Lee, Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, Jaylon Smith, Maliek Collins, Anthony Brown, and Kavon Frazier. They'll probably be looking at a heft sum of comp picks in 2021. Good post. The cap is not nearly the impediment it's viewed as by some. Team's find a way to sign their top players and then decide which of their second tier guys are expendable. The top teams will always be up against the cap. Just have to move money around, restructure deals, and let a few guys walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 5 hours ago, ScottLaw said: I read on this board you don't need number 1 recievers though... It depends....NE has never had a #1 WR since Randy Moss that dominated the game...On the flip side the Giants did nothing with Odell Beckham... Even the teams that have the best WRs in the league (Bengals, Falcons)....they haven't been good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 12 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: I agree with you but Prescott wants +$30M. Elliot wants a huge contract like Bell. Cooper wants Brown type money. How do they afford all of that? Not saying the Bills go do it but he is 24, in his prime. Can be a huge help to Josh. And the Cowboys have paid three of their offensive line in Smith, Fredericks and Martin and they just paid DeMarcus Lawrence too. I will give them this - to this point they have done a really nice job of balancing the cap and planning the contracts in such a way as they don't hamstring them. But realistically to be able to fit Dak, Zeke and Cooper under the cap for the next 4 or 5 seasons they will probably have to sacrifice one of those linemen after 2019. The crunch point is 2021 when they presently have $75m in cap space... which sounds a lot.... until you realise they have only 14 players under contract and no quarterback. They will need to decide after 2020 whether to extend Jaylon Smith as well (likely they won't). The moral of the story is really that the window for Dallas is now. They have a really talented roster this year. They have an excellent offensive line, an elite running back, Cooper and Randall Cobb (and young Gallup who I still like as a developmental guy), they have a capable Quarterback, pass rushers on defense, two brilliant young linebackers and a stud in Byron Jones in the secondary. They should be a Superbowl contender this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 12 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: I agree with you but Prescott wants +$30M. Elliot wants a huge contract like Bell. Cooper wants Brown type money. How do they afford all of that? Not saying the Bills go do it but he is 24, in his prime. Can be a huge help to Josh. because the cap keeps increasing every year and will go up again soon with new TV contracts...if they want to sign them, they will...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 13 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: Hearing that the Cowboys and Cooper are far apart on extension. We punted Brown. Would you take a run at a trade with Dallas? Nope, just wait for him to hit the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 7 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Did you miss Hapless's post on Dak once Dallas traded for Amari? The WR and TE group is changed.... it's still a bottom of the league unit. If you could take the time to list all the units that are unarguably better. Id appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 15 hours ago, Gambit said: They just traded a 1st rounder for him. Why would they trade him already? They can always tag him if needed. Exactly. Not every player who is not under contract is a candidate for the Bills. I’ve seen people post threads on Aaron Rodgers, and others and is simply ridiculous. Now the story on Ansah makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Cooper needs to prove he can be consistent. He was awful two years ago other than the two games I didn’t start him in fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 For a 3rd...sure MAYBE a 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 14 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: NE has done it for a long time without spending high dollar on WRs. I dont see him adding enough value to justify spending that much. If Jerry isnt willing to pay what hes asking then that should tell you something. Prescott isnt worth 30M. 30M? For Prescott? I’d let him walk.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, Maynard said: 30M? For Prescott? I’d let him walk.... They really should have already started looking for their just in case QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 This is why Raiders dealt him for a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 18 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: I agree with you but Prescott wants +$30M. Elliot wants a huge contract like Bell. Cooper wants Brown type money. How do they afford all of that? Not saying the Bills go do it but he is 24, in his prime. Can be a huge help to Josh. Blows my mind that all those guys want that sort of money. It's not like we are talking about the Steelers offense. IMO, the only person that actually deserves that sort of money is Elliot, who is probably the best RB in the league alongside Gurley and Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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