njbuff Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 So what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 People who complained about the lack of WR after last year’s draft and before the season were proven correct. We will see if they are right again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Beane has a plan first year was about fixing the cap..and putting the f.o in position to draft a franchise qb . 2nd year was about evaluation..now he's spent money fixing the biggest weakness on the team the offensive line. I'm sure he'll address the wr corps next year which is said to be a good wr draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 With all the bodies in the room we still dont have elite talent in the receiving corps. Maybe we are going the NE route and just have solid guys there with no real stars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, bills11 said: Beane has a plan first year was about fixing the cap..and putting the f.o in position to draft a franchise qb . 2nd year was about evaluation..now he's spent money fixing the biggest weakness on the team the offensive line. I'm sure he'll address the wr corps next year which is said to be a good wr draft. i hope so. This is my boy right here. image: http://walterfootball.com/college/Colorado_logo.gif Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado Height: 6-2. Weight: 220. Projected 40 Time: 4.52. Projected Round (2020): 1-3. 2/8/19: Shenault was one of the top wide receivers in 2018, totaling 86 receptions for 1,011 yards with six touchdowns. The 6-foot-2, 220-pounder is the No. 1 receiver for Steven Montez and has made the Buffaloes quarterback look good at times.Read more: http://walterfootball.com/draft2020WR.php#ixzz5mN9M6EPeRead more at http://walterfootball.com/draft2020WR.php#qJWptlSzoKgXIiFt.99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: .....exactly...hell even the Pats did............... Darn the pats. They've taken every player worth taking and pulled the wool over the eyes of every GM in the league again. Doubtless every major news outlets will give them an "A+" in their draft evaluation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 10 hours ago, JerseyBills said: .. L Glad this thread was started, I'm actually happy we didn't add a WR .We have 4 WR (Beasley, Smokey Brown, Foster and Zay) who at least have proven they can make an impact in this league. I know ppl will trash Zay but he was the #1 WR many games , going against the best or 2nd best CB usually . He will now be matched up with much less talented CB. Entering year 3 , feel he has lots of potential and can make a jump. Don't forget about Andre Roberts who is mainly just a return man and possibly the best 1 in the game . That's 5 WR right there! They drafted Ray Ray last year , brought in McKenzie and Duke Williams and probably a couple UDFA to battle for 1 or 2 spots. Also add Kroft,Knox at TE and Yeldon who joins Shady as another great receiving RB. I don't understand why people are upset for not drafting a WR. We have the first 5 WR I mentioned that are locks to make the roster! It wasn't a need imo or at least not a big need at all. Like Beane said when asked about drafting Singletary over a WR , there was none rated higher, so he goes BPA , again , it's also not a need anyway! Plus revamping an atrocious OL is one of the best ways to improve the pass game. R-E-L-A-X He was just EXTREMELY overrated by the armchair GMs on TV and social media. Just because they're locks to make the roster doesn't mean they're any good. See : Peterman, Nathan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Gugny said: I'm actually not mad. I like our current WRs. I'm sure if Beane/McD don't, then they have a plan in place to get someone in. I think the draft picks were excellent. Was I surprised that we didn't get a WR? Yes. Upset about it? Nah. Actually picking someone like DK Metcalf had the feel of what past regimes would do. A high draft pick on an over-hyped skill player. The type of pick that plays to the masses but does not have staying power on the roster. I really like what Beane has done with this roster both between FA and the draft. The WR corps is improved over last year (not saying much). However, what is really important is that the O-line should be remarkably better. The Bills had no ground game last year outside of Allen scrambling and leaping LB’s. With a more balanced attack and the credible threat of a rushing game the Bills should be far more efficient on offense. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 if you look at the way the Panthers were built it follows the pattern. They brought in rejects from other teams like Ted Ginn Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 If the current receivers can actually catch passes they get both hands on, they will be a massive upgrade from last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cripple Creek Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Gugny said: I AM MAD!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, you are & it appears that you are also angry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 So Zay Jones will make the team? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I doubt with last year's o-line even the best receiving corps would have been much more successful getting open for JA, who imo too often had to scramble before throwing, and do so on the run which obviously affects completion %. If he can stay put and more often set his feet the passing game should be a lot better with this receiver corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, x-BillzeBubba said: I doubt with last year's o-line even the best receiving corps would have been much more successful getting open for JA, who imo too often had to scramble before throwing, and do so on the run which obviously affects completion %. If he can stay put and more often set his feet the passing game should be a lot better with this receiver corps Lotta faith being put in people without a lot of production. Also, a lot of cult-like belief in OL being the cure-all for all problems, too. We'll see how it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 What’s interesting is to look at the Bills projected Offensive starting roster for 2019. How many of the starting eleven did we even draft? Allen, Dawkins and maybe Zay? Will we add Ford to that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Lotta faith being put in people without a lot of production. Also, a lot of cult-like belief in OL being the cure-all for all problems, too. We'll see how it works out. fair enough...but all I want is to see is a passing game where the passpro is good enough that our second yr QB isnt overly under duress and can deliver more often to receivers that have the extra half second to finish their routes and present a target even a young QB like Aĺlen will find more frequently...and presumably means more catches, more first downs and more pts. and that hopefully keeps the D off the field a little more too. So yeah imo the Oline revamp being successful is the most critical piece of this team's future Edited April 28, 2019 by x-BillzeBubba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Waaaaaaaaah! Ok got that out of the way. Still need an elite receiver but will have to make due this year. Next year it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) It could be worse, Jets have a similar WR Unit for Darnold, didn’t take a WR in the Draft, AND only modestly attempted to improve their OL. At least we focused on the OL to an almost obsessive level. Edited April 28, 2019 by SCBills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Lotta faith being put in people without a lot of production. Also, a lot of cult-like belief in OL being the cure-all for all problems, too. We'll see how it works out. Are you really trying to criticize people for caring about the Lines? The game is won and lost in the trenches. If your line cant block, then your passer cant pass, your runners cant run, and your receivers cant get open downfield. The entire game starts in the trenches. Show me a team with a good OL that didnt make the playoffs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 There was a reason why they got aggressive with FA WR signings without doing something stupid like trading for a prima donna, and over spending. I also feel that this years Offense will be considerably better without a drafted WR in the mix, so all is good and the rebuild is doing well IMO Next year is a better draft for WR's. This years draft had strength in other positions. They took BPA and managed to fill some pretty big needs with players that fell to them. The Bills are being built well... It will really come down to Josh Allen maturation at QB and not a drafted WR this year 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Chemical said: People who complained about the lack of WR after last year’s draft and before the season were proven correct. We will see if they are right again. Completely different circumstances, though. Last year was the cap fix. We were deficient at just about every position. This year we paid a number of WR's in FA to come in and bolster the position, but the focus has been on fixing the oline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Are you really trying to criticize people for caring about the Lines? The game is won and lost in the trenches. If your line cant block, then your passer cant pass, your runners cant run, and your receivers cant get open downfield. The entire game starts in the trenches. Show me a team with a good OL that didnt make the playoffs. and a decent Oline makes JA even more dangerous when he sees an opportunity to keep it and rush for a first or td? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Bills need a #1 WR, I don't think there was one of those in this draft so I'm fine with no WR. Any WR that came in here was battling for the 5th spot. The top 4 is set. What's the point of drafting a 5th WR early? Pretty much how I see it too And OF COURSE I want the Bills to win NOW. But Beane and McD have a longer vision. There is a lot of cap room for 2020. If the current offense works great in 2019, and Allen emerges as a true star and Mr Cannon Arm Deep Passer, great wideouts will want to come here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Thought the thread was telling the Bills "do not" draft a receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: Completely different circumstances, though. Last year was the cap fix. We were deficient at just about every position. This year we paid a number of WR's in FA to come in and bolster the position, but the focus has been on fixing the oline. There were still people saying Benjamin was a borderline 1/2 WR and Zay could improve. A lot of ifs just like now. They signed two 30 year old WR and have one 1000 season between them. Other teams with much better wr corps drafted multiple receivers to go with their young qb. Cards drafted one last year and butler and Isabella this year. I say we will be making the WR excuse for Allen again after this season. You disagree I’m guessing. Your camp was wrong last year. We will see about this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I’ll admit, I’m a little upset we didn’t get Josh Allen more weapons at the WR position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, McBean said: I’ll admit, I’m a little upset we didn’t get Josh Allen more weapons at the WR position As others have noted, there really werent any high-powered weapons available in this draft. We're talking about guys that would compete for the 4th/5th WR spot, not the #1 spot. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Chemical said: There were still people saying Benjamin was a borderline 1/2 WR and Zay could improve. A lot of ifs just like now. They signed two 30 year old WR and have one 1000 season between them. Other teams with much better wr corps drafted multiple receivers to go with their young qb. Cards drafted one last year and butler and Isabella this year. I say we will be making the WR excuse for Allen again after this season. You disagree I’m guessing. Your camp was wrong last year. We will see about this year. We allocated more resources to fixing the OL. The cards allocated them to WR. I’d prefer to make sure our OL is fixed as opposed to WR. Next years WR class is stacked, this year, there weren’t any WRs worth a top 20 pick. The broken neck guy that had a cult following was drafted at the end of rd 2 and bypassed by basically the entire league. We have solid, yet unspectacular WRs, meanwhile our OL is completely revamped with a chance that we don’t have one returning starter at any position (if Dawkins ends up at guard or just gets beat out). I get why folks here wanted to add a top available option at WR this offseason. We tried to land Brown. Didn’t work out (luckily imo). We missed on obj. I’m ok with that too. Who else are we so upset about missing out on? Tyrell Williams? Donte moncrief? Golden Tate? Just more #2 and 3 WRs. We weren’t taking any of these QBs in rd 1 over Oliver. We took the BPA in rd 2 that just so happens to be versatile enough to play tackle or guard, should we have taken a broken neck wr instead? Our Rbs are ancient, Singletary is the most elusive RB in the draft and proven TD machine. Was it a bigger need than WR some argue? Maybe for this season, but Singletary could be our starting rb for the next several years. He’s dam good. We could have the worst TEs in the league and trade up for a guy that many view as having significant upside. Problem? Vosean Joseph could end up being the best pick of the draft. He fills a huge need and has remarkable upside. Jaquan Johnson is where I could have seen us taking a WR. I don’t love this pick, but I do love the player. Emotional leader and hits hard. Probably a PS player imo. I would’ve liked us to draft Kelvin Harmon. 7th rd picks, meh. Which 7th rd wr was going to turn our WR unit around? David Sills? Nick Easley? We got them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 It wasnt flashy but Buffalo had a solid draft in my mind. They seemed to solidify both lines with Oliver and Ford. After that who do they pick? The undrafted guy from WV Sills is about the same as any of the guys drafted in rd 3 and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I can't wait to bump this thread around week 4. We have a 2nd year QB with a C+ receiving corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, NewEra said: We allocated more resources to fixing the OL. The cards allocated them to WR. I’d prefer to make sure our OL is fixed as opposed to WR. Next years WR class is stacked, this year, there weren’t any WRs worth a top 20 pick. The broken neck guy that had a cult following was drafted at the end of rd 2 and bypassed by basically the entire league. We have solid, yet unspectacular WRs, meanwhile our OL is completely revamped with a chance that we don’t have one returning starter at any position (if Dawkins ends up at guard or just gets beat out). I get why folks here wanted to add a top available option at WR this offseason. We tried to land Brown. Didn’t work out (luckily imo). We missed on obj. I’m ok with that too. Who else are we so upset about missing out on? Tyrell Williams? Donte moncrief? Golden Tate? Just more #2 and 3 WRs. We weren’t taking any of these QBs in rd 1 over Oliver. We took the BPA in rd 2 that just so happens to be versatile enough to play tackle or guard, should we have taken a broken neck wr instead? Our Rbs are ancient, Singletary is the most elusive RB in the draft and proven TD machine. Was it a bigger need than WR some argue? Maybe for this season, but Singletary could be our starting rb for the next several years. He’s dam good. We could have the worst TEs in the league and trade up for a guy that many view as having significant upside. Problem? Vosean Joseph could end up being the best pick of the draft. He fills a huge need and has remarkable upside. Jaquan Johnson is where I could have seen us taking a WR. I don’t love this pick, but I do love the player. Emotional leader and hits hard. Probably a PS player imo. I would’ve liked us to draft Kelvin Harmon. 7th rd picks, meh. Which 7th rd wr was going to turn our WR unit around? David Sills? Nick Easley? We got them. Good Post - It’s no secret I wanted and expected a WR in first three picks. However, I more wanted and expected the Bills to stay true to their board and I love our draft. You cant fix or upgrade every position in one draft. Beane got studs for both trenches, and RB not easy to tackle, and a very exciting TE prospect in this first 3 rounds. No complaints for me, especially since my main goal was getting Josh help, and all 3 of those guys will help Josh. Ford on the line, Singletary as young legs in an old backfield, and Knox as a potential weapon. Plus, the WR I really wanted in that 4th to 7th round range was David Sills V and we got him as an UDFA which is even better. The kid is as good of a prospect as anyone taken between rounds 3 and 7 and we got him for nothing! Beane is the man and a witch! Love it!!!! Edited April 28, 2019 by Alphadawg7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTLBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 This season will be a “show me” year for a number of receivers on our team: Zay, Foster, Brown, Duke. If they can’t take the next step, we’ll be conveniently walking into a deep WR class in 2020. I think Beane played it perfectly by recognizing this draft wasn’t laced with all around guys who can separate and mitigated that by getting some guys in FA and giving one year for other guys to prove something. If it doesn’t work out, great - we’ll be using a first rounder on a Jeudy, ceedee Lamb, tee Higgins, laviska shenault next year. I trust the process. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdamit Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 grabbed a few after the draft , i am fine with it. by day three i bet there were 50 that were all graded equally, why waste a pick . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicken Boo Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 18 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Who did the Browns, Jets, Cards/Dolphins, Ravens draft to go with the rest of the QBs from last year? The Browns had already acquired Jarvis Landry, the Cards had Fitz but drafted 3 WRs this weekend, the Phins had Stills and Parker, the Ravens had John Brown and acquired Crabtree in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, NewEra said: We allocated more resources to fixing the OL. The cards allocated them to WR. I’d prefer to make sure our OL is fixed as opposed to WR. Next years WR class is stacked, this year, there weren’t any WRs worth a top 20 pick. The broken neck guy that had a cult following was drafted at the end of rd 2 and bypassed by basically the entire league. We have solid, yet unspectacular WRs, meanwhile our OL is completely revamped with a chance that we don’t have one returning starter at any position (if Dawkins ends up at guard or just gets beat out). I get why folks here wanted to add a top available option at WR this offseason. We tried to land Brown. Didn’t work out (luckily imo). We missed on obj. I’m ok with that too. Who else are we so upset about missing out on? Tyrell Williams? Donte moncrief? Golden Tate? Just more #2 and 3 WRs. We weren’t taking any of these QBs in rd 1 over Oliver. We took the BPA in rd 2 that just so happens to be versatile enough to play tackle or guard, should we have taken a broken neck wr instead? Our Rbs are ancient, Singletary is the most elusive RB in the draft and proven TD machine. Was it a bigger need than WR some argue? Maybe for this season, but Singletary could be our starting rb for the next several years. He’s dam good. We could have the worst TEs in the league and trade up for a guy that many view as having significant upside. Problem? Vosean Joseph could end up being the best pick of the draft. He fills a huge need and has remarkable upside. Jaquan Johnson is where I could have seen us taking a WR. I don’t love this pick, but I do love the player. Emotional leader and hits hard. Probably a PS player imo. I would’ve liked us to draft Kelvin Harmon. 7th rd picks, meh. Which 7th rd wr was going to turn our WR unit around? David Sills? Nick Easley? We got them. Lets see how many of the wide receivers are good in the NFL. Easy to dismiss them all right now for Bills fans, but before the draft it was considered one of the deepest WR classes ever. My problem with RB in the third is first of all he’s second/third string this upcoming season with McCoy and Gore. You can say they’re looking to the future, ok fine but what about taking a RB next year when those guys are gone? Dip your toe in the deepest wr class in years and if you hit on a #1 WR it’s much more valuable than if you hit on a RB. The WR can be bust but so can the RB. Y’all act like there’s no chance of that happening. Edited April 28, 2019 by Chemical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I can't wait to bump this thread around week 4. We have a 2nd year QB with a C+ receiving corps. Thats a pretty narrow look at the situation. We have a borderline elite Defense, and on Offense - a strong stable of RBs, a legit OL and 2 solid Tight Ends. So, sure, maybe our WRs are C+ heading into the season but there’s also potential there given the youth of Foster and Jones. Maybe we run more 2-TE sets with Kroft and Knox, and run the ball down people’s throats with our new OL and Shady/Gore/Singletary/Yeldon. If teams have to stop the run, I trust Allen to find tight ends up the seam and Foster/Brown over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: The Browns had already acquired Jarvis Landry, the Cards had Fitz but drafted 3 WRs this weekend, the Phins had Stills and Parker, the Ravens had John Brown and acquired Crabtree in free agency. Okay, we now have John Brown and acquired Beasley in free agency. I wanted DK, but it's not an automatic fail situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, McBean said: I’ll admit, I’m a little upset we didn’t get Josh Allen more weapons at the WR position Who would they have drafted in round 2-7 that would of beaten out Brown or Foster? I don’t think any of them would have. I’m glad they didn’t take one just for the sake of taking one. They invested in Brown and Beasley and probably are very excited for what Foster showed them in the second half of last season. Allen seemed to have a good rapport with Foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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