DJB Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Gone are the cheap Ralph days. Gone are the days of signing an aging and deteriorating Mario Williams to am oversized contract when we had nothing else around him and we should have been tearing it down instead of that marketing ploy by Russ Brandon. Gone are the days of trading up for a WR using valuable draft stock when we had no QB to throw to him. Gone are the days of hiring a flashy coach like Rex Ryan who was all talk with little substance and had the team pulling in different directions. I'm just so pleased with this front office and ownership group who appears to have an actual plan to be successful and be a perennial team in the playoff hunt. Obviously going for Allen was their biggest and smartest decision they have made. And now free agents are actually wanting to come to Buffalo because of our QB! McDermott and Beane have built an actual team with character and skill who care for each other, the city of Buffalo and are excited to be a Buffalo Bill! And for once in a very long time im proud to be a Bills fan! The time is now! Go Bills ! 17 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Frank Gore is 36 and Cole Beasley is 30. What in the hell are you talking about? 3 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Looking forward to the draft and seeing how the team plays. I feel your excitement but I’ll wait to see the results on the field before I get really excited. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Until we win, nothing has changed to anyone outside of Buffalo 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: Until we win, nothing has changed to anyone outside of Buffalo Yeah these posts come out every year. I wanna see the consistency in winning games first then I’ll bang the drum. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Virgil said: Until we win, nothing has changed to anyone outside of Buffalo Just curious, why does it matter what anyone outside of Buffalo thinks? 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: Just curious, why does it matter what anyone outside of Buffalo thinks? There isn’t a single fan who isn’t tired of that look you get when you say you’re a Bills fan, who isn’t tired of being favored to lose most games, or the natural media bias against us. Does it matter, maybe not to some. But we want to be the Bills of the 90’s again. The place where no one wants to play in December 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 19 and 0 baby!!!!! ?? . 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 The focus of this team now seems to be winning games instead of selling tickets, this pleases me. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 We've "won the offseason" a few times before only to be disappointed when the season came. Let's hope it's different this time around. I'm pretty optimistic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: There isn’t a single fan who isn’t tired of that look you get when you say you’re a Bills fan, who isn’t tired of being favored to lose most games, or the natural media bias against us. Does it matter, maybe not to some. But we want to be the Bills of the 90’s again. The place where no one wants to play in December That's fair I guess but I tend to wear it like a badge of honor instead of a cross to bear. If you like this team and are a fan of this team it's because of all the time that you have put into them being the "bad" bills more than it is about the 90's bills. And I don't think anyone wants to play in Buffalo in december whether we are good or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Different yes, improved? ... to be determined 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I have the same feeling of hope and cautious optimism that I remember having going into the 87' season. Awesome feeling to have again. Go BILLS! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Wiz said: That's fair I guess but I tend to wear it like a badge of honor instead of a cross to bear. If you like this team and are a fan of this team it's because of all the time that you have put into them being the "bad" bills more than it is about the 90's bills. And I don't think anyone wants to play in Buffalo in december whether we are good or not. Agreed. It will never deter me from wearing my Bills gear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DJB said: Gone are the cheap Ralph days. Those days have been over for a while now. Quote Gone are the days of signing an aging and deteriorating Mario Williams to am oversized contract when we had nothing else around him and we should have been tearing it down instead of that marketing ploy by Russ Brandon. What the hell are you talking about? Mario was 27 when we signed him and he was very good for us. Did you forget when we led the league in sacks and had a great defense? Quote Gone are the days of trading up for a WR using valuable draft stock when we had no QB to throw to him. We had a 1st round QB entering his second year in the league. People wanted us to put weapons around him much like we needed to do for Allen. Quote Gone are the days of hiring a flashy coach like Rex Ryan who was all talk with little substance and had the team pulling in different directions. I'm just so pleased with this front office and ownership group who appears to have an actual plan to be successful and be a perennial team in the playoff hunt. Obviously going for Allen was their biggest and smartest decision they have made. And now free agents are actually wanting to come to Buffalo because of our QB! McDermott and Beane have built an actual team with character and skill who care for each other, the city of Buffalo and are excited to be a Buffalo Bill! And for once in a very long time im proud to be a Bills fan! The time is now! Go Bills ! I like what they’ve done so far this offseason but it needs to translate on Sundays or BB and McD will be lumped in with all the other failures. Edited March 15, 2019 by Bangarang 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) Boy, the OP didn't know what he was in for. Here he came with his optimism and his statement that he felt that the Bills ownership, management, and coaches had the team headed in the right direction. Can't have THAT kind of upbeat nonsense now, can we? Buzzkill patrol, engage! Edited March 15, 2019 by Logic 6 6 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, msw2112 said: We've "won the offseason" a few times before only to be disappointed when the season came. Let's hope it's different this time around. I'm pretty optimistic. On these boards we win basically every year. We get the big name and times are different. We dont get the big name and see times are different we are smarter. Its a human nature maybe of wanting whatever is being done to be right. My posts get criticized for being negative, but I feel I am just more realistic. I have no problem say Tre is legit at CB or Edmunds has a bright future. But I am not going to just say Cole Beasley is obviously a better pickup than A Brown or OBJ would have been because Beane is so smart and could sniff out the right fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Meh. In a "matchup" league, I'm not seeing a lot of difference makers on the offensive side of the ball. We are still going to be asking a 2nd year QB to put on a super hero cape most Sundays. Maybe Shady finds the fountain of youth, Foster continues to develop into a prime target and Brown can stay healthy and put it all together, but we are still near if not at the bottom of the league when it comes to the skill positions. The possibility of a 10-11 win season is certainly there, with what should be a good defense and a team fully bought in, but there's still going to be plenty of rough patches this coming season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I agree with the thought behind this post, but I think it’s innacurate to say Mario was a bad signing. He was a top 10 pass rusher for much of his time here, and he was a main part of a top 5 defensive line for the Schwartz years. And Rex was hired by the Pegulas. I agree that we’re headed in the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I am optimistic ….good thread...I am excited for the draft and excited for the start of the season. Whether we win and make the playoffs or not....it feels good right now and like we are spiraling upward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Ah, the Hope Season! It is upon us! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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formerlyofCtown Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: Frank Gore is 36 and Cole Beasley is 30. What in the hell are you talking about? Lol.? I think the OP is a little over-dramatic. I guess I get that way sometimes. Edited March 15, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I agree with the thought behind this post, but I think it’s innacurate to say Mario was a bad signing. He was a top 10 pass rusher for much of his time here, and he was a main part of a top 5 defensive line for the Schwartz years. And Rex was hired by the Pegulas. I agree that we’re headed in the right direction. Had an All-Pro season the year before Rex came and played at a ProBowl level both years before that. Rex made that contract bad. A player doesnt go from All-Pro to washed up over one offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I said the very same thing about the Sabres at Thanksgiving... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 So far, beane and McDermott have done a really good job at flipping this roster and re building. However, they have had some misses, such as missing out on mahomes. What they did is essentially build a team the way a team should be built. Like some others have said though, nothing matters unless they start winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Yeah these posts come out every year. I wanna see the consistency in winning games first then I’ll bang the drum. I’ll bang that drum like a fifty dollar *****, thank you very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: And I don't think anyone wants to play in Buffalo in december whether we are good or not. Isn’t that the beauty of it all? Making Miami play here in December? Maybe my favorite game ever - making Oakland come here in late January back in ‘91. . 9 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I said the very same thing about the Sabres at Thanksgiving... Cynic ? (So did I) . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Frank Gore is 36 and Cole Beasley is 30. What in the hell are you talking about? And Zo and Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I don't think we've signed anyone in FA these last 2 years that will have a significant impact on wins and losses. Morse is the best FA signing so far and he's coming off 2 injury riddled seasons. He was the 3rd best C in the C-stacked AFCW. As always, our drafts will eventually determine our fate. On the bright side, we just signed our 2 best WR's and Morse is a pretty big upgrade at C. Nsekhe is also a noticeable upgrade at RT even if he is 'almost average'. Our return game also got a long overdue upgrade too. As far as these other new OL are concerned, we'll just have to wait and see, but I'd caution against too much optimism. I am intruiged by this WR from the CFL, though. As we stand now, I'd love to see us draft Ed Oliver, Irv Smith Jr and Chris Lindstrom in rounds 1 and 2 after packaging our 3rd with a day 3 pick, but I have a feeling they will be gone before we pick. Lindstrom in the 2nd would be sweet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 hours ago, DJB said: an aging and deteriorating Mario Williams He had a combined 38 sacks his first 3 seasons with us. If that's aging & deteriorating sign me up for some more. I think we would kill for that kind of production right now.?? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Frank Gore is 36 and Cole Beasley is 30. What in the hell are you talking about? Tom Brady is 41. George Blanda retired at 48. If Gore and Beasley can play at a high level and help the team win, I sure don’t care how old they are. Age is just a number. . Edited March 16, 2019 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1st point, this idea that Ralph Wilson was cheap is kinda unfair. Perhaps back in the early days he was, but by the late 80's he spent a ton for those hall of fame rosters, where the Bills were among the most expensive teams in the NFL & could be argued were part of the reason behind the creation of the salary cap in the 1st place. Not to mention the whole reason we have the AFC with him dishing out $400,000 to the Raiders back in 1961 (which wouldve been worth $3.3mil back then) & loaning money to Billy Sullivan of the Patriots. This narrative thats stuck with Ralph til his end just never told the whole story imo. Even with his generous gift from his estate we still say it & I just don't think thats fair. And perhaps this is just semantics, but I don't think the state of our team has changed that much. Sure for us fans our hopes are up & we filled a bunch of holes, but until we put it all together on the field & put up some wins, nothing has really changed per se. We could lose the 1st 2 games of the year, heck even just the preseason & this whole board would be creating posts about "the same old Bills" & the sorry state of our franchise. So yeah I'm excited about next season. On paper we've drastically improved our offense & depth, but I've been excited pretty much every offseason as we look for the new year to begin. Until we are what we hope we are & we beat New England & contend for the playoffs, the state of our franchise is the same. In our eyes it may be brighter but those twitter posts we saw during the AB debacle, those could be made tomorrow just the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Senator said: Tom Brady is 41. George Blanda retired at 48. If Gore and Beasley can play at a high level and help the team win, I sure don’t care how old they are. Age is just a number. . Rich Gannon came out of nowhere to put together an MVP season at age 35, so maybe we should re-sign Losman. i hear he looked good slinging the ball at Clemson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Rich Gannon came out of nowhere to put together an MVP season at age 35, so maybe we should re-sign Losman. i hear he looked good slinging the ball at Clemson. Well OK, point made - I would be against re-signing Losman, despite how good he looks with no pass rush, throwing to college kids (BTW, Jim Kelly retired at 36) . Edited March 16, 2019 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I think the idea here is more we actually look like we have a plan. Whether it works or not, whether players pan out or not, Beane has a plan and is actually attempting to build a team properly, filling holes in FA and the draft. On paper this team looks notably stronger then last season. Offseason moves seem to be made with the goal of putting more games in the win column as opposed to the past where flashy moves were more designed to put fans in the stands. I, for one, welcome this change. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: I agree with the thought behind this post, but I think it’s innacurate to say Mario was a bad signing. He was a top 10 pass rusher for much of his time here, and he was a main part of a top 5 defensive line for the Schwartz years. And Rex was hired by the Pegulas. I agree that we’re headed in the right direction. Aye. The Rex Ryan experiment was a brutal disaster that wasted two years of everyone's bills fandom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) They used free agency to temporarily fill some holes. Last year at this time TSW was talking about how Vontae might return to excellence and how Murphy could get back to double digit sacks and Star would be a star and McCarron was an incredible value that Beane pulled from a magic hat. ? Those were just the guys who were going to be great. The rest of the duds Beane signed were just going to compete for starting gigs. The good news is other than the awful Star Lotulelei contract most of the others were deals that it would be easy to walk away from. Which brings us to this 2019 free agent crop.........little bit better players.........higher dollars.......but same profile.........a high potential for flameouts and injury and mostly deals that will be easy to walk away from when the time comes to re-up with the guys that McBean has drafted. For the most part.......they are just doing what free agency is really good for..........filling needs with hopefully, temporarily productive players.........and allowing the team to draft with a clear head and hopefully be able to draft better, long term players. Edited March 16, 2019 by BADOLBILZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Frank Gore is 36 and Cole Beasley is 30. What in the hell are you talking about? Gore is 35, and Beasley is 29. Yes, they will get older, God willing, but you have exposed your bias by misstating the facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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