Anonymous Agents Rank Buffalo The Worst FA Destination

[BringBackOrton]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You can always tell the posters who couldn’t get laid in WNY. I had no problems and I’m sure most of the pro athletes didn’t either.  Sorry you struggled. ?

Salute to a real one.  Biscuit always delivers his best material when you least expect it!

 

Give us a "stop riding EJ's johnson" one last time.  Play the Greatest Hits!

[RyanC883]

8 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

Plus they put Chili on spaghetti.

 

and Skyline Chili is disgusting. 

[klos63]

14 minutes ago, BIGBOY said:

No doubt The Ross Tucker’s of the world value game day and fan experience. Unfortunately most NFL players are more AB than Ross Tucker

Tell that to frank gore???!? The guy is a dinosaur. I’m sure any player his age would be happy to sign with any NFL team. Your paradigm changes when you’re on the wrong side of 30. 

That was a joke.

[RyanC883]

the weather argument comes up in Syracuse Basketball.  Coach B always tells the recruits, "during the winter you're inside playing basketball, during the Summer it's awesome here or you can go home."   Similar to football: "during football season the weather in Buffalo is awesome.  During the winter you can stay or go to Arizona or wherever." 

 

Really, playing in Buffalo (or any northern team) allows you to be in fantastic weather almost every day of the year.  Great during the season, then go south when the season is over if you want. 

[Victory Formation]

Well, can you blame them? What's in Buffalo? My favorite city in NY is Ithaca and it's a very small town compared to Buffalo. Watkins Glenn is decent as well but Buffalo is crummy. I'm not denying it's a great sports town though and the cost of living ain't too shabby. You can definitely make a career here if you think you're a good fit for our team, we're definitely a blue collar lunch pail kind of town, we don't want the me me me prima donna types like Antonio Brown anyways, that's not who we are as a city.

[BillyWhiteShows]

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

And a losing football team since y2k

 

Yeah I guess, but when you consider that the majority of those losing was derived from the dysfunction caused from an owner who wouldn’t step aside.  

 

In terms of cities, Detroit, Pittsburgh and Cleveland are a little bigger they aren’t much better.  All of those cities took a dive thanks to the decline of industry and outsourcing 

1 hour ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

The cost of snow removal alone in NYS demands a higher taxes. Yes NYS still has its tax issues... However Out here in Western Wa if we get snow my street never gets plowed...... 6 inches of snow here cripples the area where we have to take LWOPs from work because they do not have the infrastructure to deal with it when it does happen. We also pay 10x's as much for vehicle registrations etc..

 

every state finds away to get their money....  

 

Interesting.... I do know that taxes are lower in some cities but the cost of living is higher.  So in the end, it probably evens ojtout

[Logic]

 

[Just Joshin']

How many FA's this year thus far...exactly.  This is a BS article - money talks.

[ricko1112]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/12/best-worst-destinations-free-agents-dallas-atlanta-buffalo-cleveland-detroit-oakland

 

And the Bottom 5:

1. Buffalo, 12 votes
2. Oakland, 11
3. Cincinnati, 8
4. Detroit, 7
5. Cleveland, 6

 

As for Buffalo, the least enticing free-agent destination in the NFL according to our poll, only three agents didn’t have the Bills in their Bottom 5. Weather and a recent history of losing were two big factors, but the city had at least one supporter among the agents polled. “I think they’re turning things around in Buffalo,” he said. “That regime is doing things the right way.”

 

Discuss.........

Bad ownership and trash teams for 20+ years... Detroit plays inside and Oakland has mild weather, so how much did weather really play into this?

[SCBills]

Lots of FA's taking reasonable deals to come to the worst place on earth today

[Apocalypse Nuts]

 F___K those idiots.  Who gives a rat's ass what a GD sports agent says anyway?  The used car salesmen of the sports world. 

Edited March 12, 2019 by Generic Screen Name 2

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, klos63 said:

If the agents are told by their players that it's weather and sex- why would you say it's something else?

 

As to why 'every' free agent didn't sign with Miami or SD- let's just sit here for a moment and think about how ridiculous a question that is.

Yeah, so you have no good response.  Again,  the lack of winning trumps any of this other nonsense. Oh no, we couldn’t get Desean Jackson because we didn’t have good enough clubs!

[LSHMEAB]

Weather is definitely a factor. Let's not kid ourselves. But you can overcome that impediment by building a brand that teams want to be a part of.

 

That comes with winning.

 

I was disappointed they didn't land AB, but very happy with the acquisitions they've made thus far.

 

There were some that didn't expect the Bills to be a major player in free agency because the "process" was a 5 year plan etc. Make no mistake; this regime wants to win NOW and understands they don't have forever. I'm encouraged.

[klos63]

 

13 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Lots of FA's taking reasonable deals to come to the worst place on earth today

We outbid Dallas for Beasley.

[MJS]

This will change when we win. I mean, if Green Bay had been losing for the past two decades is there any doubt that they would be ranked near the bottom?

[eball]

In a late-breaking updated poll, anonymous agents rank Buffalo as a "not so bad" destination for FAs.

[muppy]

1 hour ago, eball said:

In a late-breaking updated poll, anonymous agents rank Buffalo as a "not so bad" destination for FAs.

what a difference a day makes...24 little hours~~~ haha and take THAT SI and your anonymous sources too.....tck.

[Doc]

In other news, anonymous agents suck. 

[Helpmenow]

4 hours ago, Mark80 said:

I get it, I do.  But really, how is Cincy not the worst?  Terrible team, notoriously cheap owner, a pretty crappy city.

Cincinnati is not a bad city. Cincinnati chilli is good.

[PromoTheRobot]

Sounds like it might be good to build a new station with a roof? Get our rank up?

[mjt328]

Notice the teams at the bottom of the list are those who haven't had WINNING franchises in a long time.

The article also says that Cleveland was by far the worst destination, and has been creeping up since hiring John Dorsey as GM. 

[78thealltimegreat]

5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/12/best-worst-destinations-free-agents-dallas-atlanta-buffalo-cleveland-detroit-oakland

 

And the Bottom 5:

1. Buffalo, 12 votes
2. Oakland, 11
3. Cincinnati, 8
4. Detroit, 7
5. Cleveland, 6

 

As for Buffalo, the least enticing free-agent destination in the NFL according to our poll, only three agents didn’t have the Bills in their Bottom 5. Weather and a recent history of losing were two big factors, but the city had at least one supporter among the agents polled. “I think they’re turning things around in Buffalo,” he said. “That regime is doing things the right way.”

 

Discuss.........

This post didn’t age well 

[Gigs]

5 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

Ha I just read this article. You cannot disagree with their statement - Ralph had us stuck in a history of losing, Donahoe was his last real shot and he packed it in after that. I do agree that we are turning things around. Best thing we did was take out Ralph's trash and are upgrading our facilities - all of that stuff matters. We do run into an issue with this though:

Agents said each city is judged to have a boring nightlife, according to the players. “Weather and [sex] are huge factors,” one agent said.

Yeah man the only people defending Buffalo's women and nightlife are the ones who've never left WNY or are in denial. Nothing will change my mind on that subject. Nightlife is more than a 4am last call at a hole in the wall

[TheFunPolice]

So I guess the 9 free agents the Bills signed didn't get the memo

 

 

 

Edited March 14, 2019 by TheFunPolice

[CheshireCT]

The best quote in the article is that the players don’t have a clue and just look at the stupid reasons to sign a contract somewhere.

 

I believe the ratings are true, but in the end it doesn’t matter much. It’s still pretty random, which team(s) offer a free agent a contract. They will choose their best option, and their agent will steer them toward the most money. Sure there are a few “big-time” free agents every year that have a handful of teams to choose from, but usually those guys come with a sky-high price tag that’s not worth it anyhow.

 

It’s better if a player chooses to play for the Bills because he’s a good fit for the system and coaching staff and likes his offer than because he “likes the city.” Who cares....

[TheFunPolice]

the life of an NFL player during the season probably isn't much different depending on the city. It's pretty busy and fairly regimented. Brady could make avocado smoothies, do yoga, and drink kitten blood anywhere on Earth.

 

 

 

 

 

[loyal2dagame]

On 3/12/2019 at 4:22 PM, Gigs said:

Yeah man the only people defending Buffalo's women and nightlife are the ones who've never left WNY or are in denial. Nothing will change my mind on that subject. Nightlife is more than a 4am last call at a hole in the wall

The hole in the wall 4am last call is part of what makes WNY great. If you are hanging out at a hole in the wall, you're probably having a impromptu high school reunion.  I've been to LA, Miami, New Orleans, Dallas, ect. I don't like $200.00 cover charges and huge crowds of random faces. All personal preference. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

someone post to anonymous  the list of 9 FA's sighed please 

 

[MacGyver]

On 3/12/2019 at 1:19 PM, ricko1112 said:

Bad ownership and trash teams for 20+ years... Detroit plays inside and Oakland has mild weather, so how much did weather really play into this?

 

I don't think it's just about the weather at game time.  It's living day to day in the cold that some free agents are like, "no thanks".

[Punching Bag]

On 3/12/2019 at 10:26 AM, Coach Tuesday said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/12/best-worst-destinations-free-agents-dallas-atlanta-buffalo-cleveland-detroit-oakland

Discuss.........

 

If the agents do not like Buffalo it is a good thing.

Agents like teams which give pushover contracts, are easily manipulated like Bills were with Peters and do not penalize clients for violations of contract.

 

And weather is NOT a major factor otherwise Minnesota and Green Bay which have much worst weather would be ranked worse.

 

Now taxes are but the NJ teams should ranked high but agents like their clients in top media market because easier to get endorsement deals (remember Marino started getting endorsement deals during season when he was injured and he spent a lot of time doing commercials rather than rehab).

[teef]

9 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

 

I don't think it's just about the weather at game time.  It's living day to day in the cold that some free agents are like, "no thanks".

but that's kind of it.  i would assume the majority of the players leave after the season.  the weather in wny really doesn't get too bad until that january through march time, and during that time, it is absolutely awful.  the fall is great, and december is meh.  if the bills were regularly into the playoffs, i could see the weather being more of the issue...but ya know.

[Punching Bag]

Now the author's selection is slanted - "15 NFL agents whom I know and respect" meaning agents able to bring solid leaks to him and no one is getting leaks from Bills these days. 

 

I do like the quote:

 

“Especially with Matt ‘I think I’m Belichick but I haven’t done s---’ Patricia,” 

2 minutes ago, teef said:

but that's kind of it.  i would assume the majority of the players leave after the season.  the weather in wny really doesn't get too bad until that january through march time, and during that time, it is absolutely awful.  the fall is great, and december is meh.  if the bills were regularly into the playoffs, i could see the weather being more of the issue...but ya know.

 

Playoffs are definitely a factor since players get paid extra per playoff game.

[CheshireCT]

2 minutes ago, teef said:

but that's kind of it.  i would assume the majority of the players leave after the season.  the weather in wny really doesn't get too bad until that january through march time, and during that time, it is absolutely awful.  the fall is great, and december is meh.  if the bills were regularly into the playoffs, i could see the weather being more of the issue...but ya know.

 

It’s exactly as what one of the agents said - the players give this feedback based on ***** that doesn’t matter.... weather & nightlife are not the right reasons to play for a team. Nearly ever player in the league goes somewhere else during the offseason, and during the season their life should be football not partying.

[Punching Bag]

 

One of the biggest factors for free agents missed by author is the field both game and practice and while the Pegulas have worked on getting the practice fields in better shape the stadium field needs a major revamp with lots of thinking involved and not lowest bidder.  For older players this is very important.

[CheshireCT]

13 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

If the agents do not like Buffalo it is a good thing.

Agents like teams which give pushover contracts, are easily manipulated like Bills were with Peters and do not penalize clients for violations of contract.

 

And weather is NOT a major factor otherwise Minnesota and Green Bay which have much worst weather would be ranked worse.

 

Now taxes are but the NJ teams should ranked high but agents like their clients in top media market because easier to get endorsement deals (remember Marino started getting endorsement deals during season when he was injured and he spent a lot of time doing commercials rather than rehab).

 

They asked the agents for player feedback.

[MacGyver]

15 minutes ago, teef said:

but that's kind of it.  i would assume the majority of the players leave after the season.  the weather in wny really doesn't get too bad until that january through march time, and during that time, it is absolutely awful.  the fall is great, and december is meh.  if the bills were regularly into the playoffs, i could see the weather being more of the issue...but ya know.

 

A lot of it is likely perception. Some NFL players might think we're under 12 feet of snow 9 months of the year. And, the only way to sway them to see the truth is to have a winning organization to compensate for the crap weather.

 

Cold weather perception + perennial losing = higher dismissal rate by FA's.

 

Edited March 14, 2019 by MacGyver

[Punching Bag]

2 minutes ago, CheshireCT said:

 

They asked the agents for player feedback.

 

No they didn't - reading comprehension.  Agents were doing this based on their perception not player feedback.  These are anonymous agents who may have only 1 client.

 

For answers, I turned to 15 NFL agents whom I know and respect and asked the following: “If you polled your clients about the most and least desirable teams to play for, which teams do you think would end up in the Top 5 and which would be in the Bottom 5?”

[HOUSE]

Anonymous Agents ?

Edited March 14, 2019 by HOUSE

[teef]

15 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

Now the author's selection is slanted - "15 NFL agents whom I know and respect" meaning agents able to bring solid leaks to him and no one is getting leaks from Bills these days. 

 

I do like the quote:

 

“Especially with Matt ‘I think I’m Belichick but I haven’t done s---’ Patricia,” 

 

Playoffs are definitely a factor since players get paid extra per playoff game.

i was referring to the weather only really being bad during those month.  going to the playoffs would make a big difference.

12 minutes ago, CheshireCT said:

 

It’s exactly as what one of the agents said - the players give this feedback based on ***** that doesn’t matter.... weather & nightlife are not the right reasons to play for a team. Nearly ever player in the league goes somewhere else during the offseason, and during the season their life should be football not partying.

this has been my take on it to.  i'm at the point in my life where i go to work, go to the gym, go out to dinner and have a few drinks, etc.  i could really do that anywhere.  i've also never been a club guy, so i can understand if players think  that scene in buffalo is a little lacking.  football at that level is a job.  i'd play anywhere that gave me the money and situation i wanted.  at this point, buffalo's biggest problem is losing.

 

i understand that buffalo doesn't have the same restaurants, clubs, nightlife, etc, as the big cities.  it strikes me as more of an off season problem, but everyone has their thing.

 

concerning women...come on.  there are beautiful women everywhere.  i again realize it's not nyc or la, but if you can't find attractive women in a large city, you just can't find attractive women.  some posters on here act like they blast through super models every night.

39 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

 

A lot of it is likely perception. Some NFL players might think we're under 12 feet of snow 9 months of the year. And, the only way to sway them to see the truth is to have a winning organization to compensate for the crap weather.

 

Cold weather perception + perennial losing = higher dismissal rate by FA's.

 

i have to agree.  there really is the perception that wny is like antarctica, when in reality it's like most north eastern climates.  the january to march...i absolutely hate it.

[Tisker A Tasker]

On 3/12/2019 at 10:32 AM, Golden Goat said:

"anonymous sources" = "we can just make ***** up and nobody will know."

 

Its Sports Illustrated though. They've had a good track record of solid reporting.