Is it inconceivable for the Bills to trade for OBJ?

[Patrick Duffy]

No way! He's simply not right in the head IMO, and also seems to be hurt a lot of the time. No way do you drop that much money on a loose cannon who will likely not be playing but so much due to injury. That money can be spent in a number of different ways that will be better than risking it on OBJ IMO.

[machine gun kelly]

It will never happen.

[Putin]

11 hours ago, Tipster19 said:

I ask this on the heels of Jay Glazer predicting the Giants trading him. At first one would think no way but after thinking about it it could be a possibility that would make sense for both franchises. I’m gonna list some bullet points. 

 

1. Both GMs have a congenial relationship.

 

2. The Giants with 2 top ten 1st rd picks would allow them to draft their future franchise b whoever that may be.

 

3. It’s no secret that the Bills are in need for a big time WR and OBJ just might be the best in the game.

 

4. The Bills have the resources to cough up a contract of this magnitude.

 

5. There is plenty of OL in FA, probably our biggest need, available. 

 

6. It’s not uncommon to find good OL in the 2nd rd and after. Matter of fact more times than not OL in the 1st rd usually turn out average at best.

 

7. Our defense is pretty good as of now but any added pieces can and will be addressed in FA and the draft. 

 

8. OBJ just might be the straw that stirs the drink and makes everything else perform more efficiently. 

 

I’m sure that I’m gonna get destroyed over this but Beane has proven that he is not intimidated to make big time decisions. 

Put  ( IMO ridiculous money/contract ) and the two 1st round picks that would probably cost to get him , A SIDE ,  his attitude=me me me comes first before the team  ,  and that should be enough for me to believe that McBean would never even consider a player like that , 

 

 

[bigK14094]

I hope so........I had hoped the Bills would draft him #8 instead of doing that crazy Sammy Watkins deal....but, he has turned into a head case now....NO THANKS at this point.

[Captain Hindsight]

OBJ is not a head case. He is an extremely passionate player whose every move is examined because he plays WR and plays for the Giants. His yelling and antics on the sideline are no different than Tom Terrific. The media has decided one is more acceptable than the other. 

 

Do I like that a guy kicked a kicking net? No I think thats pretty dumb thing to do. Do I like that he goes out after that and scores a TD? Yes I do

 

The Bills would be thrilled to have a player the caliber of OBJ. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not paying attention

 

That said, I doubt the Giants trade him, one year after giving him a huge contract

[BarleyNY]

3 hours ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said:

If Beckham doesn't fit your process then your process needs adjusting. He's an excellent football player who is loved by his teammates, works about as hard as anyone in the league and truly wants to win. I thinl he and McDermott would speak the same language.

 

I agree except that I don’t think the Bills are there yet. A year from now if we just got through a more successful season (wildcard playoff spot, maybe even a win), Allen has proven himself and it looks to the world that the Bills are trending up, then yes. That’s when you add someone like him. And that’s when someone like him would be interested.

 

Someone mentioned the Raiders. I can’t see him wanting to play on that train wreck. If he does, then I wouldn’t want him. Cleveland is a better bet IF he’s moved. He’s tight with Landry, who is selling him on what is happening there. And he’s making other friends like Mayfield.  Of course the same case as above could be made regarding them. 

[eball]

I see a lot of comments about OBJ being a douchebag or sideshow or "me first" type of player.  I don't know the answer and this is a serious question -- what exactly has he done besides having interest in a "superstar" lifestyle?  Is there evidence of him being a bad teammate?

[Seasons1992]

13 hours ago, njbuff said:

OBJ is completely out of his mind and is ONLY a me first type player.

 

Bad fit for Buffalo.

 

So was TO and he put in a decent year with us. I didn't like that signing at the time.

OBJ would be getting a lot of targets which probably is all he wants anyway..........

I just want to win games. Bring in whoever and let the locker room handle things. Lorax will punch him square in the face if he acts a fool.

[BuffaloBillies]

11 hours ago, Buffalo86 said:

You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

My name is Odell Beckham Jr. I killed the kicking net. Prepare to cry.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

If I were to trade for someone, either Brown or OBJ, I think I'd first call Atlanta and see what it would take to get Julio instead.  He's about the same age as Brown, and not as mentally unstable as the other two and his numbers have been just as good.   But they don't appear to be talking about trading him so the price may be higher.

[Peace Frog]

11 hours ago, Buffalo86 said:

You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[auburnbillsbacker]

I would trade our 9th for him.  The odds that our pick at 9 has his talent is slim to none.  We need to surround Allen with top talent.  Most players don't want to come here but when they arrive the grow to like it.  

[T master]

Man i hope its inconceivable that guy is a basket case & that would make me not want to watch just because of him ! If i see anything about him i pass over it because he is the ultimate "It's all about me" player in todays NFL & thats a big thing i can't stand !

 

Sure he is ultra talented but he's a whiner & a cry baby & all that crap he does on the side line is just plain foolish to get attention & IMO i hope the Bills never get a guy like that ! TO did some things but even his was a bit more classy if you could call it that not so much the standing on the Dallas star even though i hate the cowboys ! 

 

But the OBJ stuff is just childish & not entertaining in any way so i vote NO PLEEEEEASE don't bring him here !!  

[ctk232]

14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

 

How could Beane draft OBJ over Watkins when that was 3 years before he joined the Bills?  Lmao

 

How many more things before Beanes tenure here are people going to pin on him?  Bad enough people blame him for Woods and Mahomes, both things that were before he was a Bill.  Now Sammy over  OBJ? Haha 

Anything to fit the narrative...what a time we live in.

[Jauronimo]

Yes.

[Alphadawg7]

6 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said:

Well if he gonna get credit for Tre White,  Dawkins, Milano , Poyer & Hyde then go figure,  lol.

 

Fair point and reply  People do that too, although that was at least McD

[ctk232]

14 hours ago, Tipster19 said:

I hear ya on the chemistry and the attitude thing but if this were to ever happen I would pitch the concept to him that he could do something that NOBODY has ever been able to do and that is to bring a championship to Buffalo. Make him realize that he can do something historical and unprecedented. Believe me, that would make a difference to a big ego.

For how long though really? I don't doubt that could be the case for some time, and he could have a turning-the-page moment in his career where he begins to mature more. But what if he doesn't see the results fast enough for him? 

 

The more pertinent point is the established culture being maintained around him. OBJ has shown he is an emotional guy who wears it on his sleeve in some pretty interesting ways, to say the least, but seems a bit more off-kilter in his priorities than say a similar personality in AB. This again could be maturity issues, and something that could literally change in a season. 

 

That all said, I could easily see Beane doing his due diligence here and seeing what it would take - but his judicious nature would likely lead him more toward FA and especially the draft to pick up his WR talent.

[formerlyofCtown]

7 hours ago, RPbillsfan said:

I'd much rather draft Hockenson at 9, Hakeem Butler by trading 2nd and 3rd to move back-up in the 1st and draft a young RB to take over for McCoy in 2020.  Add that to Foster, Jones, McKenzie, Croom and a veteran laden offensive line with a new RT, C and G and you have the building blocks of a great offense.

OBJ>Hockenson x10

[Formerly Allan in MD]

15 hours ago, Tipster19 said:

Hey Alphadawg7, how ya doing. I appreciate your input, you kind of give this concept credibility so thanks. As far as Brown goes I think he might be as much if not more of a headcase than OBJ. In the last several weeks he has been making some unsavory headlines of off the field kind of behavior. As far as I know OBJ has kept his nose clean when it comes to this regard. And I anticipate others to start making suggestions like A.J. Green but to me the down side to him is he is 30 and is coming off of a pretty big foot (toe) injury. I don’t want a Sammy Part II and I don’t Beane does either. No, there is a few more positives to OBJ vs some of the other big time WRs.

Brown is a significant head case.  Those guys need to wind up with the Redskins.  It's a cultural thing.

[Flip Johnson]

12 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

I have never seen anyone bring up a single star player that everyone didn't have an issue with the Bills acquiring. It's like the fanbase is afraid of having a great player. Great players act arrogant get over it.

 

He is a known malcontent and his talent hasn't converted to wins.

 

Great players may often act confident/arrogant - but you don't see OBJ type antics from Julio Jones, Hopkins, Michael Thomas, AJ Green, etc.

[RPbillsfan]

14 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

OBJ>Hockenson x10

You post possibly in relation to numerical production.  But in Hockenson the Bills are getting a Gronkowski play alike who is also a great blocker.  He's not going to be a "me" guy Diva the OBJ is and is young and will grow with the young talent being put together.

[Chandler#81]

15 hours ago, KD in CA said:

I hope not.  I don’t know why people think guys who have worn out their welcome in stable, successful environments like Pittsburgh and New York are going to work out in Buffalo.

I’ll take a wild stab; because we have an NFL team here and there’s only 31 others?? Maybe??

[formerlyofCtown]

14 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said:

You post possibly in relation to numerical production.  But in Hockenson the Bills are getting a Gronkowski play alike who is also a great blocker.  He's not going to be a "me" guy Diva the OBJ is and is young and will grow with the young talent being put together.

I said this to another poster earlier and now I will say something similar to you.  OBJ an Gronk have done it in the NFL.  You know what Hockenson has done in the NFL, nothing.  He is a great prospect though.  But what he willbe in the NFL is unknown.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Regarding my opinion of top WRs... I’d be happy with a trade for Diggs if even in the realm of possibility, which I doubt.

 

No thanks to AB, OBJ or any other beloved quick fixes. 

[RyanC883]

15 hours ago, KD in CA said:

I hope not.  I don’t know why people think guys who have worn out their welcome in stable, successful environments like Pittsburgh and New York are going to work out in Buffalo.

 

Pittsburgh is not exactly stable at the moment.  

 

Perhaps Allen has a better ability to get the ball to OBJ than Manning?  

[RPbillsfan]

17 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

I said this to another poster earlier and now I will say something similar to you.  OBJ an Gronk have done it in the NFL.  You know what Hockenson has done in the NFL, nothing.  He is a great prospect though.  But what he willbe in the NFL is unknown.

Done it in the NFL is important,but equally important is "how you do it", do u do it the context of a team production or do you do it for your own stats and Rep. OBJ, and Brown are selfish "me guys" with crazy cap numbers and are off the field train wrecks.  No thank you to either.

 

Nice for fantasy, not much for a successful team

[RyanC883]

47 minutes ago, Flip Johnson said:

 

He is a known malcontent and his talent hasn't converted to wins.

 

Great players may often act confident/arrogant - but you don't see OBJ type antics from Julio Jones, Hopkins, Michael Thomas, AJ Green, etc.

 

This is true, but also why Jones, Hopkins, Thomas, and Green are likely not available.

 

Here is another way to take a risk on a great pass catcher w/o trading: Get Eifert in FA.  Perhaps pair that with an AJ Green trade.    

[LABILLBACKER]

16 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Thats a tough one.  I would probably want a 2nd or 3rd back due to the contract he wants but if they didnt budge I would probably do it.

Trading for AB is highly unlikely but a 26 yr old OBJ might be intriguing.  But would he come to a smaller market? Probably not...

[QuoteTheRaven83]

18 hours ago, Estro said:

I think OBJ would despise playing in a market like Buffalo.  Hes a whiny brat in NJ I'd be very fearful of his antics playing in Buffalo.  

 

Fixed.

 

NY only has 1 football team. 

Edited February 15, 2019 by QuoteTheRaven83

[Putin]

6 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

 

 

 

 

The Bills would be thrilled to have a player the caliber of OBJ. 

Player the caliber of OBJ hell YES 

Player the caliber of AB hell YES

All the drama that comes with him hell NO  

[Captain Hindsight]

18 minutes ago, Putin said:

Player the caliber of OBJ hell YES 

Player the caliber of AB hell YES

All the drama that comes with him hell NO  

What drama? 

 

AB drama I get, his seems like some serious nonsense. 

 

OBJ was partying on a boat in Miami without a shirt on? Kicked a net? He got into a fight once with Josh Norman.... in 2015. Since then he signed a mega contract so clearly the team that knows him extremely well, doesn't give a damn

 

The Bills would be foolish to not take a chance on someone as talented as OBJ because he was once frustrated. Bills fans were so pissed when no one pushed Gronk after he hit Tre White. OBJ would have knocked him out. Its ok to have players that play with a ton of passion. It can take talent to the next level. Passion takes many forms and depending on who tells the story is how it will be perceived

 

 

 

 

[Putin]

29 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

What drama? 

 

AB drama I get, his seems like some serious nonsense. 

 

OBJ was partying on a boat in Miami without a shirt on? Kicked a net? He got into a fight once with Josh Norman.... in 2015. Since then he signed a mega contract so clearly the team that knows him extremely well, doesn't give a damn

 

The Bills would be foolish to not take a chance on someone as talented as OBJ because he was once frustrated. Bills fans were so pissed when no one pushed Gronk after he hit Tre White. OBJ would have knocked him out. Its ok to have players that play with a ton of passion. It can take talent to the next level. Passion takes many forms and depending on who tells the story is how it will be perceived

 

 

 

 

OBJ would probably cost about the same as Khalil Mack as far as money/contract & draft picks , McBean was not willing to give up that much asset for arguably the best defensive player in the league , so I’m pretty damn sure he won’t do it this time for a WR with me me me attitude and who’s hurt half the time , 

 

 

[Clyde Smith]

At least he’ll be close to his Bff Drake lol.

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, Flip Johnson said:

 

He is a known malcontent and his talent hasn't converted to wins.

 

Great players may often act confident/arrogant - but you don't see OBJ type antics from Julio Jones, Hopkins, Michael Thomas, AJ Green, etc.

If I have a choice between egomaniac divas or great character wrs like above, sign me up for Julio/AJ all day long.

[wppete]

He doesn’t fit McDermotts Process. 

[BuffaloTX]

No thanks. Not an OBJ fan

[Tipster19]

3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

What drama? 

 

AB drama I get, his seems like some serious nonsense. 

 

OBJ was partying on a boat in Miami without a shirt on? Kicked a net? He got into a fight once with Josh Norman.... in 2015. Since then he signed a mega contract so clearly the team that knows him extremely well, doesn't give a damn

 

The Bills would be foolish to not take a chance on someone as talented as OBJ because he was once frustrated. Bills fans were so pissed when no one pushed Gronk after he hit Tre White. OBJ would have knocked him out. Its ok to have players that play with a ton of passion. It can take talent to the next level. Passion takes many forms and depending on who tells the story is how it will be perceived

 

 

 

 

Great points Captain, I concur!

[Ol Dirty B]

8 hours ago, T master said:

Man i hope its inconceivable that guy is a basket case & that would make me not want to watch just because of him ! If i see anything about him i pass over it because he is the ultimate "It's all about me" player in todays NFL & thats a big thing i can't stand !

 

Sure he is ultra talented but he's a whiner & a cry baby & all that crap he does on the side line is just plain foolish to get attention & IMO i hope the Bills never get a guy like that ! TO did some things but even his was a bit more classy if you could call it that not so much the standing on the Dallas star even though i hate the cowboys ! 

 

But the OBJ stuff is just childish & not entertaining in any way so i vote NO PLEEEEEASE don't bring him here !!  

 

You know, some could argue that your post was all about you. You use "I" a lot and a lot of exclamation points. 

 

I think the Jay Glazer thing was written as a bold prediction, it's baseless it's just Jay getting attention. He won't be traded and I don't think the Bills would trade for him. Just like how I don't think they'd consider trading for AB.

 

That said, and I have never been a fan of Beckham. The guy is good, if he ends up on the Bills, I'm not going to lie to you and say things like I wouldn't watch or enjoy rooting for him. I'd be thrilled. I just want them to win, however they get there.

[SinceThe70s]

4 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

What drama? 

 

AB drama I get, his seems like some serious nonsense. 

 

OBJ was partying on a boat in Miami without a shirt on? Kicked a net? He got into a fight once with Josh Norman.... in 2015. Since then he signed a mega contract so clearly the team that knows him extremely well, doesn't give a damn

 

The Bills would be foolish to not take a chance on someone as talented as OBJ because he was once frustrated. Bills fans were so pissed when no one pushed Gronk after he hit Tre White. OBJ would have knocked him out. Its ok to have players that play with a ton of passion. It can take talent to the next level. Passion takes many forms and depending on who tells the story is how it will be perceived

 

 

 

 

 

The only thing OBJ has a passion for is OBJ.

 

I have no idea what makes you think he would have knocked out Gronk. Has he ever stood up for a teammate? Maybe I missed it. I know he's repeatedly thrown his QB under the bus.

[Prickly Pete]

I can't even stand the stupid look on his face. The guy is just an utter A-hole. And no, ""great players" don't all act like this. And he is definitely at a higher tier of A-holery. But then again, some people like this guy, and think he is cool.

 

 

 

Edited February 16, 2019 by OJ Tom