YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) I had thought that they still had fans in STL... guess not? The Super Bowl will feature the franchise that bailed on them, relocated to the sunshine of Los Angeles and promptly got really, really good, playing against the club that defeated them in the last Super Bowl their local team reached, which is a wound that, as all Super Bowl losers know, never heals. Edited January 23, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I wondered about this. Can you imagine being a Cleveland Brown's fan for life, only to see the Baltimore Ravens win a Super Bowl? I'd be sick for many years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, BuffAlone said: I wondered about this. Can you imagine being a Cleveland Brown's fan for life, only to see the Baltimore Ravens win a Super Bowl? I'd be sick for many years Remembering when that happened to Browns fans in 2000, just 4 years after the move ... it was awful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Thank you Ralph, Terry and Kim. 10 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Fortunately stl Rams did win a SB this century so they got that. But they had been so bad for so long before moving. Edited January 23, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I wondered about this. Can you imagine being a Cleveland Brown's fan for life, only to see the Baltimore Ravens win a Super Bowl? I'd be sick for many years I bet not an insignificant number of current Browns fans don't know what you are referring to... Also: "The Super Bowl will feature the franchise that bailed on them, relocated to the sunshine of Los Angeles and promptly got really, really good, playing against the club that defeated them in the last Super Bowl their local team reached, which is a wound that, as all Super Bowl losers know, never heals." Say, what city did the Rams "bail on" so that St. Louis could have them as their NFL team? That's rich.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) I have a love hate relationship with the NFL. Whenever the NFL lets a team bail on a community is when I hate the NFL the most. They want your loyalty and money right up to the point where they think they can make more money somewhere else, and then that loyalty doesn't mean a d*mn thing Edited January 23, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Didn't the Rams win a SB in St. Louis? Did they ever win one in LA, their original city? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Despite all the hurt feelings, I expect the Rams will have more fans in St Louis than they will ever have in LA. Having a team(s) in LA is an NFL dream, that's really not supported by the locals. I expect to see many empty seats in the new stadium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 According to Wikipedia they won one when they were based in Cleveland in 1945 and Los Angeles in 1951... I think the LA fans endured more than the St Louis fans under this context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I feel like everybody should be LOVING the Rams. I mean, they ARE playing the Patriots*! What more do you need? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I had thought that they still had fans in STL... guess not? They do still have fans here. I even know a couple of them. But overall....let's just say if I were Stan Kroenke, I wouldn't walk down a dark St Louis alley by myself. 4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Didn't the Rams win a SB in St. Louis? Did they ever win one in LA, their original city? They won and lost a SB in St Louis. But then they entered a decade of fan-benumbing worsening play that drafting a QB #1 overall couldn't save them from, aggrevated by a bad case of "Head Coach Roulette", and moved to LA just before getting good again. So yeah, there's salt. 21 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Say, what city did the Rams "bail on" so that St. Louis could have them as their NFL team? That's rich.... Hey, we're selective in our selective memories. But we still hate Bill Bidwell and the Cardinals too 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, White Linen said: Thank you Ralph, Terry and Kim. This is absolutely the bottom line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I bet not an insignificant number of current Browns fans don't know what you are referring to... Also: "The Super Bowl will feature the franchise that bailed on them, relocated to the sunshine of Los Angeles and promptly got really, really good, playing against the club that defeated them in the last Super Bowl their local team reached, which is a wound that, as all Super Bowl losers know, never heals." Say, what city did the Rams "bail on" so that St. Louis could have them as their NFL team? That's rich.... Thats very true. However, L.A. has never been a "football" town, drowning in irrelevance for 75 years...they've had their fair share of defining moments, including major championships, over the years. I'm just saying, I'd be mad if I was a Brown's fan after Ravens won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Yep, people here hate Kroenke with a passion. I was at my kids baseball practice and was watching the end of the Rams game with another dad and he was in stunned disbelief and anger. And then the Pats win to knock out the other Missouri team. The article is spot on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I guess they should be happy a Rams/Cardinals Superbowl isn't possible and that the Cubs can't possibly be involved. As a Tigers fan, I have no pity for that city! 2006 was a B word. 14 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Thats very true. However, L.A. has never been a "football" town, drowning in irrelevance for 75 years...they've had their fair share of defining moments, including major championships, over the years. I'm just saying, I'd be mad if I was a Brown's fan after Ravens won It's a USC town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I guess they should be happy a Rams/Cardinals Superbowl isn't possible and that the Cubs can't possibly be involved. As a Tigers fan, I have no pity for that city! 2006 was a B word. It's a USC town. True. Never a die hard NFL fan base is my point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffAlone said: I wondered about this. Can you imagine being a Cleveland Brown's fan for life, only to see the Baltimore Ravens win a Super Bowl? I'd be sick for many years I dont know What I would do given I dont live in Western NY anymore (Watching your weather and gas prices thank God I dont, 44 today and 1.79 gas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 St. Louis didn’t “lose” the Rams so much as they returned them to LA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: I feel like everybody should be LOVING the Rams. I mean, they ARE playing the Patriots*! What more do you need? To be in St. Louis for some people... this isn't that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, K-9 said: St. Louis didn’t “lose” the Rams so much as they returned them to LA. They were originally in Cleveland (granted, a looooong time ago.) So Cleveland has had two franchises bail on them and win Super Bowls elsewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffAlone said: Thats very true. However, L.A. has never been a "football" town, drowning in irrelevance for 75 years...they've had their fair share of defining moments, including major championships, over the years. I'm just saying, I'd be mad if I was a Brown's fan after Ravens won Doesn't matter. Rams went back to where they came from. St Louis has no claim here. 1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said: The Rams 'bailed' on L.A. for St. Louie...... Then they "bailed" on St louis and went back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I’d have felt awful for San Diego fans if the Chargers won the Super Bowl this year. Of course still not as painful as seeing the Patriots win but I think you get my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, White Linen said: Thank you Ralph, Terry and Kim. For keeping an NFL team in a city that will still pay to watch, no matter how crappy the product? It's a no brainer to keep the team in Buffalo and it's all about money for themselves. They're not heroes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchCT Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I have a love hate relationship with the NFL. Whenever the NFL lets a team bail on a community is when I hate the NFL the most. They want your loyalty and money right up to the point where they think they can make more money somewhere else, and then that loyalty doesn't mean a d*mn thing The NFL is most definitely a business first. There will be a team in London soon. I think the Jags will move to London, to the AFC East and then the Dolphins go to the AFC South. The Patriots were going to be moved to St Louis before Kraft bought the team. Edited January 23, 2019 by ButchCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 hours ago, LeGOATski said: According to Wikipedia they won one when they were based in Cleveland in 1945 and Los Angeles in 1951... I think the LA fans endured more than the St Louis fans under this context There was no SB in the 40's or 50's. 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Fortunately stl Rams did win a SB this century so they got that. But they had been so bad for so long before moving. Technically, 2000 is the last year of the 20th century, so they did not win one. This is the year the Bills should have been playing the Rams in the SB, had it not been for the Music City Miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Fortunately stl Rams did win a SB this century so they got that. But they had been so bad for so long before moving. Yes and what a victory I never cheered so loud for team other than the Bills After the Music City Debacle I just wanted a Rams win and they win by One Yard!!! Talk about crushing defeats that one must still burn in Tennessee,because I still feel real good about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Gugny said: For keeping an NFL team in a city that will still pay to watch, no matter how crappy the product? It's a no brainer to keep the team in Buffalo and it's all about money for themselves. They're not heroes. Shots fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said: Despite all the hurt feelings, I expect the Rams will have more fans in St Louis than they will ever have in LA. Having a team(s) in LA is an NFL dream, that's really not supported by the locals. I expect to see many empty seats in the new stadium. I know plenty of iocal Rams fans. They had their team taken away, and had to watch them win a Super Bowl for St. Louis. It's the Chargers that no one cares about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Gugny said: For keeping an NFL team in a city that will still pay to watch, no matter how crappy the product? It's a no brainer to keep the team in Buffalo and it's all about money for themselves. They're not heroes. There are a lot of bigger cities than Buffalo where they could make more money. If it was all about the money the moving vans would have rolled away years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 10 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Didn't the Rams win a SB in St. Louis? Did they ever win one in LA, their original city? Yes, and no. The LA Rams did get to a Super Bowl, though -- they lost to Pittsburgh in the late 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I understand fans in Cleveland still hate Art Modell for moving the team, but he needed a new stadium, and the city refused so he left. Then three years later all of a sudden the NFL realized they made a terrible mistake, and granted them another team, and they have sucked since that time. Funny how Cleveland all of a sudden found money along with the state for a new stadium when they saw the backlash The difference is Kronke is about the money which is why he depending on the year one of the top 3 owners in the NFL after the Allen family in Seattle (btw- three times more wealthy than any other owner). St. Louis offered money for a stadium and he refused. That is about as bad as if JBJ and the Rogers family moved our team to Toronto. I am a diehard Bills fan, but would stop watching if not for the Pegulas. God bless them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 12 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I have a love hate relationship with the NFL. Whenever the NFL lets a team bail on a community is when I hate the NFL the most. They want your loyalty and money right up to the point where they think they can make more money somewhere else, and then that loyalty doesn't mean a d*mn thing Hypergamy is a cold hearted B word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 11 hours ago, K-9 said: St. Louis didn’t “lose” the Rams so much as they returned them to LA. If you want to take that line of thought, Rams ought to return to their roots - Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 13 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: But overall....let's just say if I were Stan Kroenke, I wouldn't walk down a dark St Louis alley by myself. Ummmmm........I wouldn't walk there, even in broad daylight, with a police escort if I were him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Hate to pull the one-up card, but we still own the prime real estate for post-season SB angst, no? 10 hours ago, Gugny said: For keeping an NFL team in a city that will still pay to watch, no matter how crappy the product? It's a no brainer to keep the team in Buffalo and it's all about money for themselves. They're not heroes. Gugs, would you rather be watching the Bills from the awe-inspiring confines of the Rogers Centre for 8 games per year? Count me out on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Hate to pull the one-up card, but we still own the prime real estate for post-season SB angst, no? Gugs, would you rather be watching the Bills from the awe-inspiring confines of the Rogers Centre for 8 games per year? Count me out on that. Oh, hell no. I never said that I'm not happy they stayed in Western NY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you want to take that line of thought, Rams ought to return to their roots - Cleveland. The line of thought holds if people in LA complain about “losing” the Rams to Cleveland when they move back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) How quickly St Louis forgets how they did this to LA winning a Super Bowl 4 years after Rams left LA to St Louis. Rams had been long suffering in LA and then quickly the greatest show on turf is born in St. Louis a short time after relocation and they won the SB. So, they don’t have much to complain about here IMO. And Goff, McVay, Woods, Kupp, Cooks, their OL, etc all got to the Rams after leaving St. Louis. So this ain’t “their” team anyway it’s totally different, massively different. Rams have always been known more for LA than St. Louis anyway. Edited January 24, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/22/2019 at 7:43 PM, YoloinOhio said: Fortunately stl Rams did win a SB this century so they got that. But they had been so bad for so long before moving. Yeah, it is funny to think that the LA Rams have more than 50 years of history in Los Angeles, but will be going for their first ever Super Bowl win there, while St. Louis Rams got one in only there 5th or so year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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