njbuff Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Do you think the Bills are going to be active in FA? Will they make a big trade? Will they use the draft to acquire most of their talent by trading down a lot? Will they do all of the above? Or is this just talk and the Bills will basically sign a few free agents and stay put on draft days and just add the 10 rookies? What is your honest opinion on what McBeane will do when the off season bell rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 10 rookies is too many rookies. They will use draft picks for trades, or to move up. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I expect them to be active, but not make a big splash. Probably a few of what are considered "second tier" FA's and resign a couple of our own. I do expect them to be in on the top OL players, but don't expect much in the way of them actually signing here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Definately active players. I think they certainly know what's expected of the team next season and that will ring loudly in their ears all offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Can I give you my dishonest opinion instead? 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Do you think the Bills are going to be active in FA? Of course they are. My guess is David Funchess, Golden Tate, Darius Philon, and Daryl Williams will be their most coveted targets. We'll end up with only overpaying for Jamison Crowder. Will they make a big trade? A medium sized one. I think we trade a 4th with Jacksonville for Malik Jackson. Will they use the draft to acquire most of their talent by trading down a lot? No. It takes two to tango and most teams want to move down. Will they do all of the above? No. Read my last answer. Or is this just talk and the Bills will basically sign a few free agents and stay put on draft days and just add the 10 rookies? Nine rookies. Read my 2nd answer. What is your honest opinion on what McBeane will do when the off season bell rings? McDermott - Clap. Beane - contact every Carolina free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, njbuff said: Do you think the Bills are going to be active in FA? Will they make a big trade? Will they use the draft to acquire most of their talent by trading down a lot? Will they do all of the above? Or is this just talk and the Bills will basically sign a few free agents and stay put on draft days and just add the 10 rookies? What is your honest opinion on what McBeane will do when the off season bell rings? Of course they're going to be active in FA, with $90 mill. They're not in a position to trade down too much at this point. Unfortunately. They don't so much need people as they need blue-chippers. Here's Bucky Brooks on the Cowboys and it's right on about how to develop a team: "As a young scout, I learned that it typically takes eight to 12 blue-chip players to field a championship roster. Those blue-chip players are regarded as top-10 players at their respective positions and they are the difference makers on your squad. From a draft perspective, I was also taught first- and second-round selections should form the nucleus of your team and they must play at a high level for your team to have any chance of competing for the title. "When I study the Cowboys, I absolutely believe they have enough blue-chippers to hoist the Lombardi Trophy within the next few years. The team has consensus blue-chip players in Frederick (missed all of this season but has voiced optimism about returning in 2019), Martin, Lawrence, Jones, Elliott, Smith and Vander Esch. Although Prescott isn't necessarily a blue-chip player, he is a high-end starter based on his winning record as a QB1 (32-16 in regular season; 1-1 in playoffs) and intangibles as a Steve McNair-like leader. "With the Cowboys also getting timely contributions from some late-rounders and undrafted playmakers, the team's overall development plan has played a huge role in its emergence as a heavyweight contender in the NFC. I think it is important to acknowledge the team's gamble to surrender a first-round pick to the Oakland Raiders for Amari Cooper at the trade deadline this season. Critics laughed at the Cowboys for giving up a king's ransom for an underachieving pass catcher, but Cooper has given the team a legitimate WR1 on the perimeter to complement the strong running game on offense. "'You want to draft and develop your own guys,' said an AFC executive. 'You build it from the ground up and add free agents or trade for guys to fill in the gaps. That's the perfect model.' " Exactly. I hope he's wrong about Dallas having a good shot at a title, but they're building the right way. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001009585/article/nick-foles-or-carson-wentz-eagles-face-big-offseason-decision Edited January 12, 2019 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: What is your honest opinion on what McBeane will do when the off season bell rings? McDermott - Clap. Beane - contact every Carolina free agent. And in early March several posters will claim to have seen LB Thomas Davis at the Buffalo airport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: And in early March several posters will claim to have seen LB Thomas Davis at the Buffalo airport. Channel 4 will interview the neighbour of the step brother of someone who saw Davis at the airport. ? Edited January 12, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 With Josh Allen on the team, Bills have potentially the number one marquee player in the NFL. They will do whatever they can to get this show on the road. The only obstacle I envision for this off-season is lack of talent in free agency or the Draft not falling in the Bills favor. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 My honest opinion? Too vague a thread title, too many question marks. This front office should have installed a revolving door on the locker room with all the players that were in and out. I wonder if the bigger cap room will make it more of a condition. Perhaps greater cap room will also let the Bills ‘buy once’ and be done for player needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) As Beane states, this was a calculated plan to eat all dead money in 2018. So I don’t see the Bills going bonkers to try and soak up all that cap space. I can see one guy in positions of need - one WR, one OLineman. one DLineman and one back seven Defensive piece. I would also also bet on trading up in the Draft. McDermott/Whaley did it twice in their first draft, and Beane did it twice in the 2018 draft. Edited January 12, 2019 by Straight Hucklebuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thurman#1 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: As Beane states, this was a calculated plan to eat all dead money in 2018. So I don’t see the Bills going bonkers to try and soak up all that cap space. I can see one guy in positions of need - one WR, one OLineman. one DLineman and one back seven Defensive piece. I would also also bet on trading up in the Draft. McDermott/Whaley did it twice in their first draft, and Beane did it twice in the 2018 draft. I like your post, but I bet there'll be a lot more FAs than that. I expect them to bring in a bunch of guys, low-level to mid-level guys, filling the obvious holes and building a roster without major obvious weaknesses, building competition and depth. I don't see a lot of expensive FAs, though, if that's what you're saying. Don't see them trading up. It wasn't anything that they did in Carolina, and they've talked about treasuring their picks. IMO the reason they traded up was the very specific absolute need to bring in a franchise QB. I'd bet we don't see any major trade-ups, though going up a few spaces especially in later rounds might make sense to them. I guess we'll see who's right about that when the time comes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 which positions we fill in FA will depend on the quality of the draft. I don't expect us to go out and buy a team though. I expect a lot of new faces on offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I don’t know what their plan is, but I hope they don’t go crazy unless it’s for an elite player. Overspending on good players should be limited to one or two year deals. A real problem is that they need help at premier positions and getting high quality players at those positions will likely require drafting them. Overpaying for someone like Clowney would be very worthwhile, but that’s a long shot at best. Ultimately finding good fits at reasonable contracts will be most of FA. I expect them to be aggressive in the draft. They’re going to go after their guys. The full rebuild won’t be done this year but they can be a lot better with a solid showing in FA and 2-3 quality players in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, H2o said: I expect them to be active, but not make a big splash. Probably a few of what are considered "second tier" FA's and resign a couple of our own. I do expect them to be in on the top OL players, but don't expect much in the way of them actually signing here. This is what I was expecting. I would add I think they will be looking to add some players via trade but not Antonio brown level players. I expect Beane to be active on the phones seeing who is available for some trades. Going to be a lot of upset folks on here when we’re not signing the top 5 free agents for each position we’re weak at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Many teams are weak at OL and many teams have cap space. Buffalo will have to wine and dine the FA OL with an open checkbook. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Gray Beard said: 10 rookies is too many rookies. They will use draft picks for trades, or to move up. Yea I agree I think they willbtrade up. We will end up with either an extra 2nd or 3rd round picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) It's McDermott & Beane ... who knows. I'm not comfortable with these 2 yet, I have to wait & see cause they might be active but pick the wrong guy's. Kelvin Benjamin (even tho we traded for him in mid season of 2017, he was hurt & was really expected to make an impact for the 2018 season & we all know how that worked out) Vontae Davis Russell Bodine Jeremy Kerley AJ McCarron Chris Ivory Star Lotulelei Just to name a few were them being active smh, hardly none of these guy's planned out. Ivory was ok, but the fact that average RB Chris Ivory was ok over Shady because you didn't have enough good depth on your o-line is very concerning on their decision making. Like, I know we need another CB, but that better not be a priority. They gave a defensive player(Star) they're biggest contract ($50M)to date to plug gaps over adding ANY MORE TALENT to the screaming offense that so desperately needed it...?? **Excuse me while I jump for joy** It's just hard to judge with these two... & then we have to worry will these guy's panned out after they sign? Edited January 12, 2019 by Scorp83 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: My honest opinion? Too vague a thread title, too many question marks. This front office should have installed a revolving door on the locker room with all the players that were in and out. I wonder if the bigger cap room will make it more of a condition. Perhaps greater cap room will also let the Bills ‘buy once’ and be done for player needs. so it's been said that this year's WR crop is weak. I'd expect us to take a long look at ex-Panthers like Funchess as he is a tall red zone target that Beane seems to want. Failing that I won't rule out Dez Bryant or Donte Moncrief. We'll need a speedster too is Foster isn't deemed adequate so I could see us looking at John Brown or Darius Heyward Bey. I can see us taking a long look at Panthers OT Daryl Williams. If we're going to make a splashy signing I think it will be Leveon Bell Edited January 12, 2019 by stuvian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Use the money to add 3 new players to the oline #1 RT D Williams 5yrs 55mil #2 C Mitch Morse 4yrs 36mil #3 trade a 6th for OG Osemele i hear the Raiders will move him this offseason. RB - Mark Ingram 3yrs 18mil Wr- John Brown 3yrs 27mil. Wr Kevin White 1yr 2.5 mil TE sign Jessie James 3yrs 16mil DT Grady Jerrett 4yrs 30mil DT David Irving 1yr 5mil CB EJ Gaines 2yrs 6.5mil MLB Sean Lee 1yr 5mil These signings will add great depth to our team . It fixes the oline and allows us to truly go best available in the draft. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Do you think the Bills are going to be active in FA? Yes but they are not spending a lot Will they make a big trade? Real strong possibility Will they use the draft to acquire most of their talent by trading down a lot? I think they trade up Will they do all of the above? Possible Or is this just talk and the Bills will basically sign a few free agents and stay put on draft days and just add the 10 rookies? Signing a few FA is being active. They will add 10 or more rookies and I trust that process What is your honest opinion on what McBeane will do when the off season bell rings? We have a GM named Beane and a coach named McDermott. They are two different people. The first has to decide who to bring in. The second decides how or if to play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 starting OL & a WR from FA, trade picks for starting DL/OLB, Draft WR, TE and more OL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I think we'll overpay 2 offensive line players in free agency (Daryl Williams and Paradis or Morse). It is hard to fix an offensive line these days without overpaying so I'm fine with that. I don't want to rely on rookies to protect Josh Allen next year. Besides that I would guess most of our signings will be mid-grade. I could see us bringing in Golden Tate, maybe Jesse James or Tyler Eifert too. Tyrrell Williams is overrated and we can find receivers of that caliber in the 2nd round this year. I don't expect any big defensive signings. Our first pick as BPA will likely be on defense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScramblinDan Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) "As a young scout, I learned that it typically takes eight to 12 blue-chip players to field a championship roster. Those blue-chip players are regarded as top-10 players at their respective positions and they are the difference makers on your squad. From a draft perspective, I was also taught first- and second-round selections should form the nucleus of your team and they must play at a high level for your team to have any chance of competing for the title. Based on this who are the blue chip players on the Bills roster? Edited January 12, 2019 by ScramblinDan quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 There are a couple of very good interior OLmen in FA. I expect the Bills will be active there. Don't really know if there are any good recievers in FA. I think the Bills will focus more on offense than defense so I expect at least a couple of those positions to come from both FA and the draft. TE will be drafted I think. Defense won't be overlooked, but the primary focus will be on O. Not really expecting a big splash(Maybe Antonio Brown?) Who knows. Management has proven they are not afraid to wheel & deal. Anything could happen. Right now I think it's important to get coaches hired ASAP. We need an OL coach and a recievers coach badly so they can give some input on fixing OL & receiver problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Rockinon said: There are a couple of very good interior OLmen in FA. I expect the Bills will be active there. Don't really know if there are any good recievers in FA. I think the Bills will focus more on offense than defense so I expect at least a couple of those positions to come from both FA and the draft. TE will be drafted I think. Defense won't be overlooked, but the primary focus will be on O. Not really expecting a big splash(Maybe Antonio Brown?) Who knows. Management has proven they are not afraid to wheel & deal. Anything could happen. Right now I think it's important to get coaches hired ASAP. We need an OL coach and a recievers coach badly so they can give some input on fixing OL & receiver problems. Antonio Brown would certainly constitute a big splash. He is the antithesis of a "process" guy and has bad history with Poyer, so highly doubtful that happens. I think Oline will be the free agent focus, as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Antonio Brown would certainly constitute a big splash. He is the antithesis of a "process" guy and has bad history with Poyer, so highly doubtful that happens. I think Oline will be the free agent focus, as it should be. I'm well aware of his antics. That doesn't mean it won't happen, and not that I'm thrilled about the idea. Edited January 12, 2019 by Rockinon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Here is what I hope they do re-sign: Jordan Phillips Jordan Mills Lorenzo Alexander Release: Vlad Ducasse Charles Clay Chris Ivory Patrick Dimarco Add best available OL, WR and ST coaches Sign in Free Agency: RT - Darryl Williams G - Ruben Foster C - Matt Paradies TE - Jessie James WR - Chris Conley or Tyrell Williams LB - Anthony Barr NFL Draft 1. Christian Wilkins - DT 2. Hakeem Butler - WR 3. TJ Hockenson - TE 4. RB from Texas A & M 4. G from Wisconsin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I’d try to pry Carlos Hyde away from Cleveland or go after Ingram to help our RB room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I'll tell you this. That 90 mil in cap space has lost much of it's luster now that we actually take a look at the available free agents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Of course they're going to be active in FA, with $90 mill. They're not in a position to trade down too much at this point. Unfortunately. They don't so much need people as they need blue-chippers. Here's Bucky Brooks on the Cowboys and it's right on about how to develop a team: "As a young scout, I learned that it typically takes eight to 12 blue-chip players to field a championship roster. Those blue-chip players are regarded as top-10 players at their respective positions and they are the difference makers on your squad. From a draft perspective, I was also taught first- and second-round selections should form the nucleus of your team and they must play at a high level for your team to have any chance of competing for the title. "When I study the Cowboys, I absolutely believe they have enough blue-chippers to hoist the Lombardi Trophy within the next few years. The team has consensus blue-chip players in Frederick (missed all of this season but has voiced optimism about returning in 2019), Martin, Lawrence, Jones, Elliott, Smith and Vander Esch. Although Prescott isn't necessarily a blue-chip player, he is a high-end starter based on his winning record as a QB1 (32-16 in regular season; 1-1 in playoffs) and intangibles as a Steve McNair-like leader. "With the Cowboys also getting timely contributions from some late-rounders and undrafted playmakers, the team's overall development plan has played a huge role in its emergence as a heavyweight contender in the NFC. I think it is important to acknowledge the team's gamble to surrender a first-round pick to the Oakland Raiders for Amari Cooper at the trade deadline this season. Critics laughed at the Cowboys for giving up a king's ransom for an underachieving pass catcher, but Cooper has given the team a legitimate WR1 on the perimeter to complement the strong running game on offense. "'You want to draft and develop your own guys,' said an AFC executive. 'You build it from the ground up and add free agents or trade for guys to fill in the gaps. That's the perfect model.' " Exactly. I hope he's wrong about Dallas having a good shot at a title, but they're building the right way. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001009585/article/nick-foles-or-carson-wentz-eagles-face-big-offseason-decision So who were NEs 12 Blue chip players in there Championships. Remember top 10 at there position. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I'll tell you this. That 90 mil in cap space has lost much of it's luster now that we actually take a look at the available free agents. This class is full of solid offensive lineman who will end up being available. Some solid #2 receivers. This is perfect for the Bills needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: This class is full of solid offensive lineman who will end up being available. Some solid #2 receivers. This is perfect for the Bills needs. I definitely hope you are correct. I would hate to see the team sitting on cash because the perfect players weren't available. Perfect players rarely hit free agency. You can roll over a certain portion of the cap, but it really doesn't serve the franchise well to have all this space every year. The good teams generally hover right around the cap and make tweaks here and there to keep the premium players. Edited January 12, 2019 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I think we'll overpay 2 offensive line players in free agency (Daryl Williams and Paradis or Morse). It is hard to fix an offensive line these days without overpaying so I'm fine with that. I don't want to rely on rookies to protect Josh Allen next year. Besides that I would guess most of our signings will be mid-grade. I could see us bringing in Golden Tate, maybe Jesse James or Tyler Eifert too. Tyrrell Williams is overrated and we can find receivers of that caliber in the 2nd round this year. I don't expect any big defensive signings. Our first pick as BPA will likely be on defense. I think that if he can stay healthy, Eifert would be the steal of free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I'll tell you this. That 90 mil in cap space has lost much of it's luster now that we actually take a look at the available free agents. Not at all. There are several good offensive linemen and tight ends available, a couple solid running backs too. Those are the positions we should be spending on this year. 13 minutes ago, billykay said: I think that if he can stay healthy, Eifert would be the steal of free agency. I would love Eifert at the right price. It's a risk but a lot of potential at a relatively low cost. We should draft a TE too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I think they will be active in free agency, but smart (not like the Whaley clay scenario). I think they pursue talent that fits at a price we are willing to pay and not get into a pissing contest with other teams unless that player is clearly worth it. i think we don’t make any splash trades. i think Beane will do exactly as he says and draft best available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersN'Bills Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I want them to get at least one O-lineman, one decent WR and a bit of defensive depth in Free Agency, though I don't think they should or will spend to the cap this offseason. Get rid of some of the dead weight (Charles Clay specifically). In the draft, again get an O-lineman, WR and a RB in the mid rounds (I like Montgomery from Iowa State - kid's like a bowling ball). Fill out the rest of the draft with depth players/contributors on both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: Here is what I hope they do re-sign: Jordan Phillips Jordan Mills Lorenzo Alexander Release: Vlad Ducasse Charles Clay Chris Ivory Patrick Dimarco Add best available OL, WR and ST coaches Sign in Free Agency: RT - Darryl Williams G - Ruben Foster C - Matt Paradies TE - Jessie James WR - Chris Conley or Tyrell Williams LB - Anthony Barr NFL Draft 1. Christian Wilkins - DT 2. Hakeem Butler - WR 3. TJ Hockenson - TE 4. RB from Texas A & M 4. G from Wisconsin Perfect list except I trade out Barr for a younger DE or CB. The nickle package is run too often to justify Barr's salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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