Teddy KGB Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Poor guy has now lost 2 jobs for EJ Manuel and Blake Bortles. I mean I don't know if he's actually a good OC but it's hard to tell. Fournettes punch cost him his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Marone should be next. He's AWFUL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Wasn’t Marrone the de facto OC there already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Smells of St Doug being told what moves to make with his staff, or desperate to save his job by throwing Hackett out there as sacrificial scapegoat in desperate move to save his job. Neither a great look. Hacket was so horrible when he was here. At least with fournette, his 2 yds and a cloud of dust became >2 yds and a cloud of dust. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: The Bills leave a trail of tears and destruction in their wake. Todd Bowles will probably be next after our 2nd game against them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Im thinking the guy probably wont get another job...he's been w/ Marrone for years and I cant imagine has made any connections to any other HC's in NFL or college...but good luck to him anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Tsaikotic said: Im thinking the guy probably wont get another job...he's been w/ Marrone for years and I cant imagine has made any connections to any other HC's in NFL or college...but good luck to him anyways We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Guess I'm in the minority (as usual) - I think he's a decent coach. This move reflects a ton of pressure on Marrone - I suspect Coughlin grilled him last night about how he was going to fix the offense, and Marrone responded by saying he'd take the reigns himself, and Coughlin said, "In that case, what do we need Hackett for?" Or something like that. It's kind of an odd firing considering Hackett was running Marrone's offense to begin with - it would've been like Rex firing Thurman, what would be the point? This tells me Marrone is a goner if they don't have some sort of offensive explosion over the next few weeks, which I just don't see happening. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: We'll see. I have nothing else to add besides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: lol I thought he called a pretty good game against us yesterday. Just keep giving it to Fournette, why not? Esp. with Bortles as your QB. He did for the most part, but he went to the "well" too many times. Like that 3rd and 1 in the 3rd quarter. The Bills basically blitzed 11 guys up the middle haha as everyone in the stadium knew they were giving it to Fournette up the middle. In saying that, he shouldn't have been fired. Marrone did it to take pressure off himself and buy some more time. Edited November 26, 2018 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I have nothing else to add besides Top 5 offense Joey boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: He did for the most part, but he went to the "well" too many times. Like that 3rd and 1 in the 3rd quarter. The Bills basically blitzed 11 guys up the middle haha as everyone in the stadium knew they were giving it to Fournette up the middle. In saying that, he shouldn't have been fired. Marrone did it to take pressure off himself and buy some more time. BF, the jags run-run-run on their final series against Pitt last week was stupefying given the importance of getting a first down in that situation. Silly the way they call plays down there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Breaking up is hard to do. Even when your worse half continually brings you down. First McD finally had to rid himself of his torrid Peterman love affair. Then Dorsey breaks Hue's heart and leaves him for a Baker, now Marrone finally gives in and lets go of his boy toy Hackett. If Rex could have cut out slob job Rob he may have still had a job. Who's next on Lover's Leap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFan130 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: BF, the jags run-run-run on their final series against Pitt last week was stupefying given the importance of getting a first down in that situation. Silly the way they call plays down there. Oh I agree. I don't think Hackett is a good coach. I just think there are way bigger problems on that team and he was a scapegoat. For one: On offence they were down 2 lineman mostly the whole year, their top 2 tight ends, they got rid of their top 2 receivers in the off season, Fournette missing tons of time this year, and they have a QB who can barely complete a 3 yard pass. On that last series against Pitts, I also wonder how much of a factor Marrone played in that conservative play calling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: He did for the most part, but he went to the "well" too many times. Like that 3rd and 1 in the 3rd quarter. The Bills basically blitzed 11 guys up the middle haha as everyone in the stadium knew they were giving it to Fournette up the middle. In saying that, he shouldn't have been fired. Marrone did it to take pressure off himself and buy some more time. They have lost 7 games in a row and average 17.9 points per game. He was getting fired no matter what. And Daboll should be on the hot seat as well. I get being patient but it is also stupid to stay with an OC who really doesn’t have a great track record. Is there anything special Hackett does? also, I’m in the Kliff Kingsbury for nfl OC camp. I think he can be an awesome OC if he just focuses on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: They have lost 7 games in a row and average 17.9 points per game. He was getting fired no matter what. And Daboll should be on the hot seat as well. I get being patient but it is also stupid to stay with an OC who really doesn’t have a great track record. Is there anything special Hackett does? also, I’m in the Kliff Kingsbury for nfl OC camp. I think he can be an awesome OC if he just focuses on that. Nope I don't think Hackett is a good coach. I posted above my opinion on Hackett/the dysfunction. That would kind of tie into what I would say to your post. But no, nothing special at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 We may never get to find out if Hackett is really a good OC. He's been handcuffed the whole time with lousy QB's to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) FWIW, with the Bills beating J'ville, the Jags tumultuous tumble from last year and upcoming cap woes, has put the Bills situation in a better light.... .....Leonard Fournette helped a lot with that too. Edited November 26, 2018 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said: This had to come down from Coughlin, someone has to fall on the sword for Bortles On one of the post games yesterday they were talking about how Coughlin was yelling and acting angry during the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Hahaha. Marrone is such a snake. Scapegoating Hackett to deflect responsibility for as long as possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said: On one of the post games yesterday they were talking about how Coughlin was yelling and acting angry during the game. It was on Joe B's and Matthew Fairburn's Bills Beat Podcast that they were discussing how out of control angry and profane Coughlin was at the game yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: The Bills leave a trail of tears and destruction in their wake. And blood stains from games of fisticuffs! I see you, McDermott ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It was on Joe B's and Matthew Fairburn's Bills Beat Podcast that they were discussing how out of control angry and profane Coughlin was at the game yesterday. Yes, I wasn't sure which one it was, thanks for helping me remember-I got tired fast of the talk about who could beat up who & fast forwarded it until they got back to the gameday talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, Albany,n.y. said: Yes, I wasn't sure which one it was, thanks for helping me remember-I got tired fast of the talk about who could beat up who & fast forwarded it until they got back to the gameday talk. That was a pretty silly departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I just saw this. I mean, I'm unsurprised, but he is hardly the only reason why the Jags look so inept on offense. If they don't have Fournette gift wrap games, or we go into Prevent defense, they couldn't do anything. It's Marrone strategy, all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Honestly, why Hackett would ever call a Bortles pass play in that game was beyond me. If he ran it 100% of the time they likely would have won. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Bold City indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 37 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Guess I'm in the minority (as usual) - I think he's a decent coach. This move reflects a ton of pressure on Marrone - I suspect Coughlin grilled him last night about how he was going to fix the offense, and Marrone responded by saying he'd take the reigns himself, and Coughlin said, "In that case, what do we need Hackett for?" Or something like that. It's kind of an odd firing considering Hackett was running Marrone's offense to begin with - it would've been like Rex firing Thurman, what would be the point? This tells me Marrone is a goner if they don't have some sort of offensive explosion over the next few weeks, which I just don't see happening. I agree. I could see Irving Meyer if he leaves Ohio ST & John Harbaugh if he leaves Baltimore as candidates. 1 hour ago, 2003Contenders said: While that may have been the reason Marrone "officially" gave for moving on, the real reason was that the buy-out gave him a guaranteed $4M -- and the Jets head coaching position (supposedly his dream job) had just opened with the firing of Rex. Marrone received word from his agent (prior to the exercising the contract buy-out) that he would be viewed as the top candidate for the Jets' job . Ironically his quitting on the Bills made him toxic to fans as a head coach candidate in New York (and elsewhere). Hence, his biding his time until the Jags job opened and like-minded Coughlin was calling the shots. I think the Jets began to worry they would be nailed for tampering & got cold feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: I agree. I could see Irving Meyer if he leaves Ohio ST & John Harbaugh if he leaves Baltimore as candidates. I think the Jets began to worry they would be nailed for tampering & got cold feet. Unless Meyer is under threat of termination I don't see him going any place and Harbaugh will follow his brother's lead and go to a college program where a decent season sans the playoffs will get him treated like a god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Marrone is as much of a scumbag as Petrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 months ago every talking head would tell you how great a job Hackett was doing with Bortles and the offense down there. Not For Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 They should can Marrone at the end of the year. The guy is an arrogant jerk who can't coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Ol’ Doug Is on the hot seat!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 That’s a damn shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Their “talent” is severely overrated. They have almost nobody any good on offense. They have some decent RBs. That’s about the extent of it. What more do people expect with that qb and WRs? Last year they actually had really good WRs but they let them all leave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said: Marrone is as much of a scumbag as Petrino. I hate that I’m defending Marrone but yo idealize the only reason he has had OC jobs is because of Marrone. Has anyone tout the brilliant offensive mind of Nate Hackett before? The Jags flopped big time this year and changes needed to made. Again, I’m no Marrone fan but what was he supposed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said: Marrone is as much of a scumbag as Petrino. ...but he's a brilliant offensive mind as former OC for Saints' Payton, right?......." uh Doug, hand me he clipboard please"........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Or maybe he just got a job he wasn’t qualified for because Marrone was friends with his dad. Say what you want to about EJ but statistically, he had a better rookie year than Allen is having. Bortles regressed after last year as well. the nepotism in the nfl is a huge problem. These guys keeping getting jobs because of who their dad is and/ who they are friends with. EJ probably might not have been good but giving him Nate Hackett as both his OC/ QBs coach for his rookie year after only being an OC at Cuse was so stupid. The Jags falling apart this year was so predictable. I remember all stories about Hackett when he was hired focused on his "high energy" - notable absence about any relevant experience or ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The between the lines meaning: "But as Head Coach I understand that I need to fire him this time to keep my own job" Wasn't that a sticking point on his extension here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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