Jags Fire Hackett and Have Benched Bortles for Kessler

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

AWESOME. I hate the Jaguars now. They ticked me off last game, and I didn't realize how ticked off I got losing to them last year. With EJ in London, etc. London game was bogus refball on a phantom PI. We've played them a LOT.

 

Then they got Marrone and Hackett. Jaylen's talking trash. Take another look at that box score Marrone and GTFO of Buffalo.

 

**** the Jags. AFC ****list is now 1. Patriots 2. Jags

 

I do like Cody Kessler though. Thought he had some decent stretches for a terrible Browns team. Can't see him being much better or worse than WarBortles.

 

I wanted Cody Kessler as a backup instead of Peterman.  You are right, he could surprise some people.

[Bing Bong]

Just now, Freddie's Dead said:

Maroon is a complete asshat.  Those of you who keep saying what a great coach he is, bite me.  He's throwing anybody he can under the bus just to keep his job.  Quittin' mutha *****a.

yea! It's fun to hate (and beat) an AFC rival. We found an AFC punching bag boys! Next up... Paaaatriots!

[Protocal69]

I knew when i heard his press conference that Bortels was going to get benched. I didn’t know he would give his boy Hackett the boot. That had to come from the Czar himself

[Beast]

I wish Hackett the best.

 

Marrone?

 

I hope he gets sexually abused by Dareus.....while he’s wearing his captains hat.

[Bing Bong]

4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

 I wanted Cody Kessler as a backup instead of Peterman.  You are right, he could surprise some people.

92.3 passer rating as a rookie in 8 starts.. and the Browns never let him see the field in 2017. Then trade for Tyrod lol. WHY DO THEY DO BROWNS THINGS.. why would they draft him and cut him after he exceeds all expectations as a rookie for.. RGIII and then Tyrod

Edited November 26, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[WideNine]

14 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Tannehill was playing pretty well yesterday and Gase called two draws plays on third and ten late in the fourth quarter, neither worked and they lost a ten point lead. 

 

I have not seen too many successful draw plays the past many years, and even less for 10 yards, but I read that there were short passes that went incomplete before they got into the 3rd and 10 situations. Also loads of speculation that Tannehill's shoulder is not 100%. I believe Gase did not trust his arm so he was hoping to catch the Colts D on an overaggressive pass rush with the draw and.... obviously not so much.

 

You are right though, Gase has been under the microscope lately for his play calling not sure if I lay that last game at his feet - they needed a few stops from their defense to hold their lead and the defense crapped the bed.

 

I do think that it was odd that he stopped running the ball when they were having success with that. He said it was because the Colts were sending run blitzes. My philosophy is you run the ball till the other team proves they can stop you regardless.

[Boca BIlls]

8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Fun watching the Marrone boat sink all while knowing the Bills had a hand in it.

Edited November 26, 2018 by Boca BIlls

[Bing Bong]

2 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

I have not seen too many successful draw plays the past many years, and even less for 10 yards, but I read that there were short passes that went incomplete before they got into the 3rd and 10 situations. Also loads of speculation that Tannehill's shoulder is not 100%. I believe Gase did not trust his arm so he was hoping to catch the Colts D on an overaggressive pass rush with the draw and.... obviously not so much.

 

You are right though, Gase has been under the microscope lately for his play calling not sure if I lay that last game at his feet - they needed a few stops from their defense to hold their lead and the defense crapped the bed.

 

I do think that it was odd that he stopped running the ball when they were having success with that. He said it was because the Colts were sending run blitzes. My philosophy is you run the ball till the other team proves they can stop you regardless.

Gase is a moron. So dumb offensively, dude gives Gore more carries than Kenyan Drake and passes way too much when he has every reason to just run the ball.. Drake is averaging 4.6 YPC has 4 TDs AND ONLY 89 CARRIES. But noooooo Gore has to get 15 carries a game on like.. 2 YPC. Dummy.

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

92.3 passer rating as a rookie in 8 starts.. and the Browns never let him see the field in 2017. Then trade for Tyrod lol. WHY DO THEY DO BROWNS THINGS.. why would they draft him and cut him after he exceeds all expectations as a rookie for.. RGIII and then Tyrod

 

They went all in on Kizer.  I don't know why they didn't keep Cody even if they went with an expensive one year vet like TT.

Don't understand Stanton unless they wanted him as mentor.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Who was the HC in Buffalo when Fitz got paid

Then let go?

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Apparently, Cris Carter's "have a fall guy" works for coaches also

 

Funny: Hackett was innovative and effective this time last season - when Fournette was healthy all year, they had an up-and-coming rookie LT, and they hadn't let their LG leave in FA.

 

Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

Who was the HC in Buffalo when Fitz got paid

Then let go?

 

 

 

Paid: Gailey

Let go: Marrone

[Bing Bong]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

They went all in on Kizer.  I don't know why they didn't keep Cody even if they went with an expensive one year vet like TT.

Don't understand Stanton unless they wanted him as mentor.

blech.. Browns. At least they have Baker and he looks like the real deal. It's like the 6ers missing lottery picks for 5 straight years and then looking like tanking geniuses after drafting 2 good players. YA DIDN'T HAVE TO TANK 7 SEASONS TO GET 2 GOOD PLAYERS Browns and 6ers! 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:

Feel bad for Hackett. Had that offense cooking last year. Bortles looks like Peterman out there now.

Easier to fire Hackett than fire Bortles this morning, but I’m sure Dougie and the gang wish they did it differently.

 

Funny how a better OL and the #1 rushing game in the league will improve a QB's apparent functionality.

 

If they don't like how Bortles plays with no run game and a sieve on his blindside, they shouldn't have extended him.  Maybe Coughlin should fire himself.

23 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

I wanted Cody Kessler as a backup instead of Peterman.  You are right, he could surprise some people.

 

When I was doing my QB draft assessment (looking at the NFL play of QB drafted in different rounds), my criteria sorted out a couple of QB I'd never heard of.

One was 3rd round pick Cody Kessler.

 

That said, I don't think he'll look much better than Bortles behind that OL, unless Fournette avoids dumb fights, suspensions for dumb fights, and plays like the first half yesterday.

[Bing Bong]

11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

When I was doing my QB draft assessment (looking at the NFL play of QB drafted in different rounds), my criteria sorted out a couple of QB I'd never heard of.

One was 3rd round pick Cody Kessler.

I remember seeing him play well briefly whenever I bothered to watch the Browns, then he disappeared and I looked at the Browns QBs and checked his stat line and was pretty confused how he wasn't a more wanted FA backup.

[MrEpsYtown]

Bortles is awful. Still can't believe we lost that playoff game to him. I blame Tuhrod and slow as crap Preston. 

[ColoradoBills]

17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

When I was doing my QB draft assessment (looking at the NFL play of QB drafted in different rounds), my criteria sorted out a couple of QB I'd never heard of.

One was 3rd round pick Cody Kessler.

 

That said, I don't think he'll look much better than Bortles behind that OL, unless Fournette avoids dumb fights, suspensions for dumb fights, and plays like the first half yesterday.

 

I'm going to keep an eye on the JAX IND game to see how he plays.

If he plays any better than Bortles for less than a million than it can show he is a good long term backup.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

If he plays any better than Bortles for less than a million than it can show he is a good long term backup.

Is he a free agent after this season?!  Can the Bills trade for him next year?! In short, Bring Him In!!!  (Just call me Jon Gruden light.)

[Punching Bag]

8 hours ago, fridge said:

Weird move to abandon your friendship to save face for the last five games of your head coaching career.

 

It is not like he is Ronnie Jones and is going to fall on his sword for him.

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Is he a free agent after this season?!  Can the Bills trade for him next year?! In short, Bring Him In!!!  (Just call me Jon Gruden light.)

 

He has 2019 still on his rookie contract.

CLE traded him to JAX for a 7th if I remember correctly.

 

yep, a 2019 7th.

Edited November 26, 2018 by ColoradoBills

[Punching Bag]

8 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

Any team who plays Jacksonville, rest of the season, should strive to have Fournette ejected.  Absent a reliable QB, it's a guaranteed W.

 

Since they have won only 3 games this season it is not as important as it may seem.

[jimmy10]

[Mat68]

You cant blame Hackett for having a Qb who cant throw the ball inside the numbers.  

[Livinginthepast]

Interestingly the Jags have promoted former Toronto Argonaut HC Scott Milanovich as their new OC. He was a decent head coach in Toronto but an excellent OC in Montreal. St.Doug must be feeling the heat from Coughlin.

[jimmy10]

11 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

Interestingly the Jags have promoted former Toronto Argonaut HC Scott Milanovich as their new OC. He was a decent head coach in Toronto but an excellent OC in Montreal. St.Doug must be feeling the heat from Coughlin.

 

Well then, I guess we can expect a lot of rouges in Jacksonville the rest of the season. 

[FTLBillsfan]

9 hours ago, Clyde Smith said:

Hackett was scared of the Bills fans, that’s why he went to the booth the first time this season lol.

Either that or it was too cold for him on the sidelines.. Florida does that to you. Trust me I know.

 

[GreggTX]

Hackett was a failure here and he fared no better in Jacksonville. Marone was a fool to rehire him. He was also a fool to agree to resign Bortles. Add the huge contract to one of the laziest players in the NFL in Dareus and we have a franchise headed in reverse. The real question is, will these moves save Marone's job? Will they have a new GM going forward or do they stand pat and hope for 2017 to happen again with a new QB under center? If they draft a new QB, they eat that big salary to Dareus whom they signed to win it all in 2018 and 2019 while the rookie develops. The owner has some difficult decisions to make after this season.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

Wrapping up Week 12 with one game left on the slate …

 

1. There were three issues with the Jaguars offense to speak of coming out of the team’s 11th game. First, there was lack of consistency in execution—the playcalls going into the huddle simply weren’t being run as they were drawn up, which could be a result of communication or a revolving door at certain spots, and that manifested in small mistakes all over the place compounding. Second, the team has been decimated by injuries, with seven linemen, four tight ends, the team’s top receiver and its top two running backs among the afflicted. And third, the quarterback hasn’t taken steps forward. So the team pulled the plug on Monday on both OC Nathaniel Hackett and QB Blake Bortles.

 

I spoke to Hackett in the aftermath, and he was respectful of the call that Doug Marrone (who he’s worked with for the last nine years) made. “I’m grateful to them for giving me the opportunity just to have a chance to call plays,” Hackett said. “We had a great run last year, being in that AFC Championship, getting there and being so close. I mean, we were supposed to win four or five games, we lose [Allen Robinson] in the first game, it was awesome. … Looking back at it, there were things that hurt us with the injuries, but you have to find a way to overcome it. Unfortunately we couldn’t finish games the way we’d have liked. The truth is, my head’s still kind of spinning here.”

 

2. Last season Bortles survived an August benching to get Jacksonville to the AFC title game and score a big extension, so you never say never. But it sure seems this would be it for the Jaguars quarterback, with the team staring down a very tenuous cap situation in 2019. So the logistics of releasing Bortles? The team still has about $6.5 million in guarantees to account for, which can be offset by whatever another team might be willing to pay him. There’s also $10 million in dead money, on top of that guarantee, to bring the total to be accounted for, if he’s released, to $16.5 million, which is only $4.5 million less than the $21 million cap number he’s scheduled to carry next year if he is on the team. As for the new starter, going to Cody Kessler is likely as much about being able to sell the locker room on its quarterback and giving the team a spark as anything.

[26CornerBlitz]

The aftermath. 

 

 

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

The aftermath. 

 

 

Trouble in Bald City. 

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Kelly the Dog said:

Trouble in Bald City. 

 

Shad Khan sould clean house from Coughlin on down. 

[DuckyBoys]

they set themselves up for this be re upping Bortles  Every week they go with a limited qb who severely limits what they can and cannot call on offense.  Guess they though behind their defense and a strong running game they could win (sound familiar?)

[TigerJ]

It's nice that the Bills could be the trigger for Marrone's desperation.

[stuvian]

letting Robinson and Hurns go didn't help

[Clyde Smith]

4 hours ago, FTLBillsfan said:

Either that or it was too cold for him on the sidelines.. Florida does that to you. Trust me I know.

 

Being scared of Bills fans sounds a lot funnier than the obvious.

[Agent 91]

15 hours ago, RiotAct said:

lol I thought he called a pretty good game against us yesterday.  Just keep giving it to Fournette, why not?  Esp. with Bortles as your QB.

Give it to him until he pukes 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

The aftermath. 

 

 

 

Major karma looks like

[longtimebillsfan]

I am not sure why, but I feel bad for Hackett.  He seemed over his head, he also seems like a likable person.

 

Who knows, he may get a head coaching job at a small college. 

 

Best of luck to Hackett.

 

Bortles' benching is over due.  I am glad it came a week after our game.  He has had some decent games, but to me he looks like a career backup.  Maybe a couple levels up from EJ.

[Seoulful Soul]

17 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I hate that I’m defending Marrone but yo idealize the only reason he has had OC jobs is because of Marrone.  Has anyone tout the brilliant offensive mind of Nate Hackett before?  

 

The Jags flopped big time this year and changes needed to made.  Again, I’m no Marrone fan but what was he supposed to do?

 

Doesn't alter the fact that Dougie is still as much of a scumbag as Bobby.

17 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...but he's a brilliant offensive mind as former OC for Saints' Payton, right?......." uh Doug, hand me he clipboard please"...........

 

You think I'm defending Dougie?  Hackett sucks, but Dougie having a person or an organization's back is the kiss of death.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

55 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said:

 

Doesn't alter the fact that Dougie is still as much of a scumbag as Bobby.

 

You think I'm defending Dougie?  Hackett sucks, but Dougie having a person or an organization's back is the kiss of death.

 

...nope....just making a wisecrack about his Saints OC tenure......really think Payton let him call plays?..........

[Tcali]

21 hours ago, RiotAct said:

lol I thought he called a pretty good game against us yesterday.  Just keep giving it to Fournette, why not?  Esp. with Bortles as your QB.

I agree--but I wonder why they abandoned that strategy in the 2nd half?

21 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Poor guy has now lost 2 jobs for EJ Manuel and Blake Bortles. I mean I don't know if he's actually a good OC but it's hard to tell.

very good point