PirateHookerMD Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I thought this was an interesting look at how the draft is shaping up. Surely lots will change. You will notice there is almost no offensive talent near the top of the draft which is a bad year for us to be so needy. Also seems like we will see less trade-ups given lack of QB talent and elite studs. I don't see much worth tanking for, as we are not going to have pick 1 or 2. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/15/2019-nfl-draft-big-board-rankings-nick-bosa-justin-herbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 watch them take Greedy Williams as our CB 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 We need another Josh Allen 7. JOSH ALLEN, OLB/DE, KENTUCKY Height: 6' 4" | Weight: 255 pounds The biggest question on Allen is how an NFL team will wind up using him. Like Minnesota’s Anthony Barr and Buffalo’s Tremaine Edmunds, he can play on the line or off, and can do a lot of things well. He’s been productive this year, with 11 sacks, 15.5 tackles for losses, five forced fumbles and four pass breakups. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mango said: watch them take Greedy Williams as our CB 2. I may be the only person on this board that wouldn’t hate it. CB2 is the biggest (and only) real hole at the present time on defense. It would give the Bills a chance to have an elite defense like the Seahawks were. At the moment, every important throw goes right at CB2. In addition, the value will be there. He’s universally thought of as a top 5 pick. I would much rather take him there than the 23rd best player in the draft because he plays offense. Assuming that a trade trade down isn’t an option this wouldn’t be bad at all IMO. We can then go offense from there. This holds especially true if they nab a couple of FA starters on offense. I think that they have a chance to add 2 starting OL and potentially a rotational WR in FA. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Another take, similar takeaway: 1. Ed Oliver, DL, Houston 2. Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio State 3. Quinnen Williams, DL, Alabama 4. Devin White, LB, LSU 5. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama 6. Greedy Williams, CB, Lsu 7. Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan 8. Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia 9. Josh Allen, LB, Kentucky 10. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss 11. Jeffery Simmons, DL, Mississippi State 12. Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama 13. Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson 14. Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson 15. Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State 16. Daniel Jones, QB, Duke 17. Dexter Lawrence, DL, Clemson 18. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama 19. Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida 20. Noah Fant, TE, Iowa 21. Dre'mont Jones, DL, Ohio State 22. Devin Bush, LB, Michigan 23. N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State 24. Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama 25. Chase Winovich, EDGE, Michigan 26. Derrick Brown, DL, Auburn 27. Zach Allen, EDGE, Boston College 28. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon 29. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma 30. Christian Wilkins, DL, Clemson 31. Oshane Ximines, EDGE, Old Dominion 32. Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 38 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: I thought this was an interesting look at how the draft is shaping up. Surely lots will change. You will notice there is almost no offensive talent near the top of the draft which is a bad year for us to be so needy. Also seems like we will see less trade-ups given lack of QB talent and elite studs. I don't see much worth tanking for, as we are not going to have pick 1 or 2. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/15/2019-nfl-draft-big-board-rankings-nick-bosa-justin-herbert 24 minutes ago, Mango said: watch them take Greedy Williams as our CB 2. Jeepers, Mango, I thought that, too. I really did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I may be the only person on this board that wouldn’t hate it. CB2 is the biggest (and only) real hole at the present time on defense. It would give the Bills a chance to have an elite defense like the Seahawks were. At the moment, every important throw goes right at CB2. In addition, the value will be there. He’s universally thought of as a top 5 pick. I would much rather take him there than the 23rd best player in the draft because he plays offense. Assuming that a trade trade down isn’t an option this wouldn’t be bad at all IMO. We can then go offense from there. This holds especially true if they nab a couple of FA starters on offense. I think that they have a chance to add 2 starting OL and potentially a rotational WR in FA. I would HATE to see them reach for an offensive player just because he’s on that side of the ball. I trust them to be smart enough to go for value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Not the sexiest pick but assuming we have, say pick 7-10, I really like OL Jonah Williams. Also Derrick Brown, DT from Clemson and Raekwon Davis, DT from Bama are both on my wish list. Trenches need fortification. Always. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I may be the only person on this board that wouldn’t hate it. CB2 is the biggest (and only) real hole at the present time on defense. It would give the Bills a chance to have an elite defense like the Seahawks were. At the moment, every important throw goes right at CB2. In addition, the value will be there. He’s universally thought of as a top 5 pick. I would much rather take him there than the 23rd best player in the draft because he plays offense. Assuming that a trade trade down isn’t an option this wouldn’t be bad at all IMO. We can then go offense from there. This holds especially true if they nab a couple of FA starters on offense. I think that they have a chance to add 2 starting OL and potentially a rotational WR in FA. I actually fully agree with you. It was more pot stirring. It is definitely a need for us. I also hate reaching for need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarg12 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I can't see McDermott/Beane passing up a CB in the first round, most likely Greedy Williams out of LSU. I'm okay with it, I would rather they not reach just to grab an offensive player. As the draft progresses I would like to see more offense drafted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Picked a bad year to look for Offensive talent in the early first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bakin said: Not the sexiest pick but assuming we have, say pick 7-10, I really like OL Jonah Williams. Also Derrick Brown, DT from Clemson and Raekwon Davis, DT from Bama are both on my wish list. Trenches need fortification. Always. I would actually like Little if he can be had with our first. Wouldn't mind Williams, but little more upside to Little. Given that the DL depth apparently will last until round 4 or 5, I'd rather we be the team that goes offense with our first two picks OL/WR, and fill out our dline and secondary with the later rounds. Wouldn't hurt to draft another LB if the value is there - I foresee more weeks without Edmunds or Milano due to concussions... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 If Josh Allen sacks Josh Allen, will it destroy the space time continuum? 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Yikes, two offensive players in the top 20 and one is a QB. Too bad offense is the biggest need of this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I’ll take AJ or Marquise Brown at WR. Even better if we trade down to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I may be the only person on this board that wouldn’t hate it. CB2 is the biggest (and only) real hole at the present time on defense. It would give the Bills a chance to have an elite defense like the Seahawks were. At the moment, every important throw goes right at CB2. In addition, the value will be there. He’s universally thought of as a top 5 pick. I would much rather take him there than the 23rd best player in the draft because he plays offense. Assuming that a trade trade down isn’t an option this wouldn’t be bad at all IMO. We can then go offense from there. This holds especially true if they nab a couple of FA starters on offense. I think that they have a chance to add 2 starting OL and potentially a rotational WR in FA. Interesting as just a month ago I was looking and the top half had more than a few O-linemen and WR's... Not a bad thing if those needs we have become lower 1st or 2-3rd round picks - the Bills wont overpay for the gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Trade down. Really the only thing to do when you don't have any glaring need on defense. Beane isn't shy about making deals on draft day. This could be a fun draft to watch. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 59 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Another take, similar takeaway: 1. Ed Oliver, DL, Houston 2. Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio State 3. Quinnen Williams, DL, Alabama 4. Devin White, LB, LSU 5. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama 6. Greedy Williams, CB, Lsu 7. Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan 8. Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia 9. Josh Allen, LB, Kentucky 10. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss 11. Jeffery Simmons, DL, Mississippi State 12. Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama 13. Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson 14. Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson 15. Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State 16. Daniel Jones, QB, Duke 17. Dexter Lawrence, DL, Clemson 18. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama 19. Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida 20. Noah Fant, TE, Iowa 21. Dre'mont Jones, DL, Ohio State 22. Devin Bush, LB, Michigan 23. N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State 24. Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama 25. Chase Winovich, EDGE, Michigan 26. Derrick Brown, DL, Auburn 27. Zach Allen, EDGE, Boston College 28. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon 29. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma 30. Christian Wilkins, DL, Clemson 31. Oshane Ximines, EDGE, Old Dominion 32. Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame In this scenario....trade down and take Jonah or N"Keal Harry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, PirateHookerMD said: I thought this was an interesting look at how the draft is shaping up. Surely lots will change. You will notice there is almost no offensive talent near the top of the draft which is a bad year for us to be so needy. Also seems like we will see less trade-ups given lack of QB talent and elite studs. I don't see much worth tanking for, as we are not going to have pick 1 or 2. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/15/2019-nfl-draft-big-board-rankings-nick-bosa-justin-herbert Most are calling this draft class historic - in terms of defensive line talent. It's very strong at the top, and deep all the way through the first 2 days. That doesn't mean the cupboard is totally bare on the offensive side. There are a handful of offensive linemen slated as mid-1st Round talents, quite a few wide receivers with late-1st/early 2nd Round grades, and many also believe this would be a good year to take a tight end early. In my opinion, the key for the Bills will be adequately filling holes in Free Agency, so they aren't stuck reaching for a position instead of player. If they end up picking too high, it may be very difficult to pass on one of these generational D-Line talents. Especially with Jerry Hughes getting older, and Kyle Williams probably retiring at the end of the season. Which of course could leave them short on picks to address all the holes on offense. Right now, they need help at WR, TE, OT, C and OG. That's five spots, assuming Zay Jones and Wyatt Teller play good enough to warrant another year in the starting lineup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Its really all not that bad. Better to take the top defensive guy round 1 then to reach for an offensive player and then round 2 take that offensive guy where hes supposed to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 We all know this will change after the bowl games and combine. I want OL/WR/TE with the first two picks, would not be mad if we draft Greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I may be the only person on this board that wouldn’t hate it. CB2 is the biggest (and only) real hole at the present time on defense. It would give the Bills a chance to have an elite defense like the Seahawks were. At the moment, every important throw goes right at CB2. In addition, the value will be there. He’s universally thought of as a top 5 pick. I would much rather take him there than the 23rd best player in the draft because he plays offense. Assuming that a trade trade down isn’t an option this wouldn’t be bad at all IMO. We can then go offense from there. This holds especially true if they nab a couple of FA starters on offense. I think that they have a chance to add 2 starting OL and potentially a rotational WR in FA. I wouldn't hate it either. I would have the following from the list high on my board: 1. Josh Allen 2. Greedy Williams 3. Jonah Williams 4. Montez Sweat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Another take, similar takeaway: 1. Ed Oliver, DL, Houston 2. Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio State 3. Quinnen Williams, DL, Alabama 4. Devin White, LB, LSU 5. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama 6. Greedy Williams, CB, Lsu 7. Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan 8. Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia 9. Josh Allen, LB, Kentucky 10. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss 11. Jeffery Simmons, DL, Mississippi State 12. Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama 13. Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson 14. Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson 15. Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State 16. Daniel Jones, QB, Duke 17. Dexter Lawrence, DL, Clemson 18. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama 19. Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida 20. Noah Fant, TE, Iowa 21. Dre'mont Jones, DL, Ohio State 22. Devin Bush, LB, Michigan 23. N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State 24. Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama 25. Chase Winovich, EDGE, Michigan 26. Derrick Brown, DL, Auburn 27. Zach Allen, EDGE, Boston College 28. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon 29. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma 30. Christian Wilkins, DL, Clemson 31. Oshane Ximines, EDGE, Old Dominion 32. Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame I think most of them are pretty D heavy. I am not worried about a top 5 pick. I don’t see anyone trading up for a QB right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 This team doesn't have the luxury of really passing on better talent to fill a position of need. Its imperative we take the best player available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 46 minutes ago, tbarg12 said: I can't see McDermott/Beane passing up a CB in the first round, most likely Greedy Williams out of LSU. I'm okay with it, I would rather they not reach just to grab an offensive player. As the draft progresses I would like to see more offense drafted. LSU DBd tend to be safe picks. I would be okay with it if we addressed oline in free agency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Bo Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Trade down, trade down, trade down. Get picks to fill O-Line, WR's, TE. Give Josh some tools to work with and address CB and same positions in free agency. D is already looking good...need to address offense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I’ll take AJ or Marquise Brown at WR. Even better if we trade down to get him. Sign me up for trading down for Brown. Josh needs targets and he needs them now! Edited November 15, 2018 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 It is that time with the Bills at 3-7, but just in case anyone didn't know we have a running thread on the CFB sub-forum with mocks, big boards, and top prospect links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Most are calling this draft class historic - in terms of defensive line talent. It's very strong at the top, and deep all the way through the first 2 days. That doesn't mean the cupboard is totally bare on the offensive side. There are a handful of offensive linemen slated as mid-1st Round talents, quite a few wide receivers with late-1st/early 2nd Round grades, and many also believe this would be a good year to take a tight end early. In my opinion, the key for the Bills will be adequately filling holes in Free Agency, so they aren't stuck reaching for a position instead of player. If they end up picking too high, it may be very difficult to pass on one of these generational D-Line talents. Especially with Jerry Hughes getting older, and Kyle Williams probably retiring at the end of the season. Which of course could leave them short on picks to address all the holes on offense. Right now, they need help at WR, TE, OT, C and OG. That's five spots, assuming Zay Jones and Wyatt Teller play good enough to warrant another year in the starting lineup. Agree on the d-line needs...Shaq has been a pleasant surprise, but with Murphy injured more often than not, and Kyle's age, the Bills are an injury away from losing their ability to rotate guys in, or having to pull up guys from the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 With how weak our remaining schedule is, we’ll be picking in the 10-15 range and there should be a number of OL or WR prospects who make sense there. And remember, this “big board” is not a projection of where these guys will be picked. Offensive guys will get pushed up the board. IMO, Herbert goes top 3; he’s by far the best QB prospect out there this year and he has great tools. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy84 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Give me N'Keal Harry ALL day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I may be the only person on this board that wouldn’t hate it. CB2 is the biggest (and only) real hole at the present time on defense. It would give the Bills a chance to have an elite defense like the Seahawks were. At the moment, every important throw goes right at CB2. In addition, the value will be there. He’s universally thought of as a top 5 pick. I would much rather take him there than the 23rd best player in the draft because he plays offense. Assuming that a trade trade down isn’t an option this wouldn’t be bad at all IMO. We can then go offense from there. This holds especially true if they nab a couple of FA starters on offense. I think that they have a chance to add 2 starting OL and potentially a rotational WR in FA. Nope I wouldn’t as well. Big need and if picking in the top 5 or 6 a receiver is a reach at that point it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I would't mind going all offense with the first three. Greg Little, Marquise Brown, Michael Jordan G Ohio State would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Allen Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, JMF2006 said: We need another Josh Allen 7. JOSH ALLEN, OLB/DE, KENTUCKY Height: 6' 4" | Weight: 255 pounds The biggest question on Allen is how an NFL team will wind up using him. Like Minnesota’s Anthony Barr and Buffalo’s Tremaine Edmunds, he can play on the line or off, and can do a lot of things well. He’s been productive this year, with 11 sacks, 15.5 tackles for losses, five forced fumbles and four pass breakups. The Bills value versatility, so I could see them taking him, if there isn't an offensive player to their liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Another take, similar takeaway: 1. Ed Oliver, DL, Houston 2. Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio State 3. Quinnen Williams, DL, Alabama 4. Devin White, LB, LSU 5. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama 6. Greedy Williams, CB, Lsu 7. Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan 8. Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia 9. Josh Allen, LB, Kentucky 10. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss 11. Jeffery Simmons, DL, Mississippi State 12. Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama 13. Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson 14. Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson 15. Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State 16. Daniel Jones, QB, Duke 17. Dexter Lawrence, DL, Clemson 18. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama 19. Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida 20. Noah Fant, TE, Iowa 21. Dre'mont Jones, DL, Ohio State 22. Devin Bush, LB, Michigan 23. N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State 24. Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama 25. Chase Winovich, EDGE, Michigan 26. Derrick Brown, DL, Auburn 27. Zach Allen, EDGE, Boston College 28. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon 29. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma 30. Christian Wilkins, DL, Clemson 31. Oshane Ximines, EDGE, Old Dominion 32. Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame Very few offensive (skill) players on this list. I don't like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, CSBill said: Very few offensive (skill) players on this list. I don't like that. Quite a few on Day 2 though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, CSBill said: Very few offensive (skill) players on this list. I don't like that. For what it’s worth there should be really strong value in rounds 2 and 3 there IMO. I said it in one of the college threads but it feels like there are a lot of “Robert Woods type” of WRs to me. There are a bunch of guys that will be like 60 catch, 800 yard, 6 or 7 TD guys. We could conceivably get 2 of them. If you pair them with Zay and another guy from FA (Tyrell Williams maybe) you have a functioning WR room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Unless he's injured that TE from Iowa will be a top 20 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Get us some Jonah Williams. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TC in St. Louis said: Trade down. Really the only thing to do when you don't have any glaring need on defense. Beane isn't shy about making deals on draft day. This could be a fun draft to watch. sure - but who is going to trade up when the DL talent pool is so deep? It takes two. 17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: For what it’s worth there should be really strong value in rounds 2 and 3 there IMO. I said it in one of the college threads but it feels like there are a lot of “Robert Woods type” of WRs to me. There are a bunch of guys that will be like 60 catch, 800 yard, 6 or 7 TD guys. We could conceivably get 2 of them. If you pair them with Zay and another guy from FA (Tyrell Williams maybe) you have a functioning WR room. I'm not sure that's true - just because we don't WANT to reach for offensive talent, doesn't mean a whole bunch of other teams won't - and at that point, it's not a reach anymore. Edited November 16, 2018 by BobChalmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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