KD in CA Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 *phew* For a second there I thought this thread wasn't going to be another "McBeane sucks!" diatribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: He got hit. You can have the best line in the league and guys get hit. He was injured because of the number of hits, he got injured because of where he was hit. I'm not talking about that one play. The o-line is horrendous in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 49 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: We're in year 2. How in the world does last season wipe out a year? The job of a new regime when they come aboard is to evaluate and determine the direction of the organization. They did that and decided to rebuild. The team was mediocre, got to 9-7 and with a little luck, made the playoffs. And I gave the regime credit for continuing the rebuild because I agreed that the team was mediocre at best without a high ceiling. There's no point in being mediocre. It was the right thing to do to continue the rebuild. But they haven't amassed the amount of talent they should have after 2 offseasons. We still have the entire offense to go and we need to get younger at a couple of positions on defense. This is at least 2 offseasons of work, maybe more based on the pace that we're on now. In today's NFL, it's a slow pace, and front offices that are slow in this league don't last very long. The thing I think people forget, we were so cap-strapped we didn't have the necessary ability to amass this large amount of talent. It wouldn't have mattered who was the GM. We didn't have the funds, plain and simple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Brian3488 said: I think this is a hard year to gauge on progression of QB. Reason being, Daboll is switching the offensive scheme every game, he's experimenting by trial and error, seeing what works and what doesn't. With constant change its hard to see progressions. Year 2 will be a different story. Daboll will have a year under his belt and by then should know how to correctly work around his players. Allen will need to show significant progress then. Yes I would agree with you on this as well. Maybe I should have used "development" instead of progression. I don't know, either way if we can just see some kind of promise(besides the Vikings game) with Allen between when he gets back and the end of the season. Like I said it will be difficult with the supporting cast he has around him either way, I guess I meant I want to see more accurate throws, better decision making, and pocket presence. Even if the WR drop most of the throws, as long as the ball gets where it needs to be. Along with that and decision making etc, I would consider that development/progression. Edited November 2, 2018 by Patrick_Duffy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Lolz at this board. Its really all code for "we are losing so the rebuild isn't working" You can really hide it in whatever justification you like, the fact is you don't like the pains of a rebuild. Step one was always get the QB. Now they got him. Now they build around him. Its hard to judge the progress of Allen because he hasn't really played and has been denied the chance to develop. I think if we're being honest, most of us who don't believe in the rebuild don't believe Josh Allen is ever going to be any good. If I believed in Allen, I would be much more tolerant of the sh*tshow product they're putting on the field right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: You're preaching to the choir with me! Some of us were calling for Allen to start Game 1 all summer long. McBeane have already demonstrated that they have zero ability to gauge QB talent or manage that position. And they are the ones who drafted Allen. Good luck with that. How two guys can enter the season with a such a distinct lack of talent on offense is startling. 1 hour ago, Tenhigh said: Its like a mouth-breathing competition up in here! Pot meet kettle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Augie said: We know. ? I was good with not starting him for at least that first 4 game stretch, taking the cautious approach. I wont bother to go into anything positive that nobody wants to hear. We all know both sides of this thing, and ultimately time will tell. Maybe the Bills can hire a magician who with some secret potion can concoct some instant success. Unrealistic expectations are the manufactured problems of those who are not grounded in reality. What is going on this year with this franchise should have been expected. Some people simply can't handle the arduous stages in a rebuild. I don't consider myself to be a naive homer. Assuming this offseason is handled smartly I am optimistic about the not too distant future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, JohnC said: Maybe the Bills can hire a magician who with some secret potion can concoct some instant success. Unrealistic expectations are the manufactured problems of those who are not grounded in reality. What is going on this year with this franchise should have been expected. Some people simply can't handle the arduous stages in a rebuild. I don't consider myself to be a naive homer. Assuming this offseason is handled smartly I am optimistic about the not too distant future. I prefer a big picture, long term view and I’m OK with what I’ve seen. I hate short sighted knee jerking. I fully agree that some (serious) mistakes have been made, but in general I like the direction. Mistakes happen in life. We ended the drought, then we shed cap ugliness. Pain is to be expected. I had no idea the offense could be THIS BAD, but in the long run it actually may help come the draft. The bottom line is, since I have no control over it, I’m not going to lose my mind over it. There’s no point in that. I’d just turn away and check back later rather than get as worked up as many here find themselves. But that’s just me.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 This is a rebuild. All we’re debating is style points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Watkins90 said: We are in year 1 of the rebuild. Making the playoffs last year wiped out that year being a rebuilding year no matter what moves were made. Adult input, thanks! 19 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: A lot of the fans preaching this is a rebuild are the same fans that thought this team could win 9 games this year. Nope, most of us thinking 4 - 12; we are 2 - 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Watkins90 said: I like how we give up on a rookie QB four games into his NFL career. My god guys. We would be picking QBs in the first round in every draft if we had it your way and dumped someone after one year because they weren't an all-pro. So then you must be all for giving Nathan Peterman at least another year, right? I mean, he has fewer starts than Allen does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: A lot of the fans preaching this is a rebuild are the same fans that thought this team could win 9 games this year. Nope, most of us thinking 4 - 12; we are 2 - 5! Really, just another emotional post based on anger and frustration from the "I WANT IT NOW" mind set; pull into to a fast food restaurant drive - a playoff and a SB berth to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 36 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: A lot of the fans preaching this is a rebuild are the same fans that thought this team could win 9 games this year. So, what’s your point? I thought 6-8 wins, which is actually still possible given the schedule. Maybe it’s a little less. Very few were solid on 9 wins. VERY. It’s still a rebuild. Offense in the offseason, then see what we have next year. If it made me truly miserable, I’d take a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: This offensive line is in fact playing bad.....they cannot block for the run to save their lives....they cannot get out in front of screens......they are inconsistant in their pass protection They are playing bad Some of the reason for that is there is no QB 7 minutes ago, Augie said: So, what’s your point? I thought 6-8 wins, which is actually still possible given the schedule. Maybe it’s a little less. Very few were solid on 9 wins. VERY. It’s still a rebuild. Offense in the offseason, then see what we have next year. If it made me truly miserable, I’d take a break. Funny how 8-8 is seen as the end of the world. Remember the tyrod days. And now we are hoping to get to 8-8. Edited November 2, 2018 by nedboy7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: Funny how 8-8 is seen as the end of the world. Remember the tyrod days. And now we are hoping to get to 8-8. Who said that? NOT ME. Now you’re just making stuff up (again). An 8-8 season while clearing the cap, getting quality, cheap and young talent and developing a (hopefully) Franchise QB would thrill me! How could we have such an old roster? THAT had to change. But then, I don’t just look for things to complain about. That’s good for my family and friends, as people hate being around people like that. I avoid them myself when possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Thanks for sharing your completely original and insightful take with all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Some of the reason for that is there is no QB Funny how 8-8 is seen as the end of the world. Remember the tyrod days. And now we are hoping to get to 8-8. Actually...I am hoping they are trying to avoid 8-8 which is a huge part of the overall problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Actually...I am hoping they are trying to avoid 8-8 which is a huge part of the overall problem 8-8 would be a tremendous accomplishment. Make no mistake about it - McDermott would be ecstatic to go 6-2 in the second half of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: 8-8 would be a tremendous accomplishment. Make no mistake about it - McDermott would be ecstatic to go 6-2 in the second half of the season. Everyone should...that would mean the players currently on the roster are playing better and we won't need to replace everyone...winning is still a good thing.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I never said 2 years max, in fact multiple times I've said 3 is usually the standard. But even then, it's more about progression. With the way Beane and McDermott accumulated assets to trade up for a franchise QB...they seemed to have some level of understanding of how important that is. And that was the plan for 2 offseasons. But along the way, they decided not to protect that QB or give him anyone to throw to. This is basically going to be a complete year wasted of offensive development because even if Allen does come back, they're just going to continue to run this bland, conservative offense that is not the modern offense that you have to be building towards anyway. THAT'S my problem. This is far and away an offense-first league if you want to be good for an extended period of time...and somehow this regime has put it completely on the backburner. No. The exact opposite. I feel like people choose to forget how the FO got blindsided by Both Richie Incognito and Eric Wood. Had both played, stayed healthy and stayed out of jail this season could be totally different. Solid experienced protection allowing the resources use to replace them to be used on weapon upgrades. It goes without saying that a diminished Online already mutes our best offensive weapon, Shady. We need the line to give him those first 3 years so he can get the next 3, like back in 2016 when his average was 5.4 and he got 13 touchdowns. They brought in Kelvin Benjamin, but he has been performing well below expectations, you could push that back on the QB/OL situation, but the stupid penalties he has been taking for large yards is very frustrating with compounded with poor performance. But remember as a rookie he was caught over 1000 yards, so you cant say they did NOTHING to try and acquire weapons. It just did not work out because he has just not been able to bounce back after he tore his ACL. What if he turns his season around at the halfway mark and stops pushing off all the time? like he did when he was just a rookie playing with Cam Newton. The plan was not as bad as people are saying, they just got ***** on two surprised retirements on the Online and it cascaded from there. I fully admit their biggest flaw was not having a vet QB to do the heavy lifting this year and teach Allen. Big Swing and a Miss with AJ McCarron, i want to say at least they recognized their error, but they did not do the right thing by not replacing him ASAP after the trade. We all know the test will be this offseason, We should have a low pick that wont be a QB and tons of FE cap space. Edited November 3, 2018 by Nester 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 4 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I'm not talking about the record, I've never cared about that for this season. But I think that's what some people think rebuilding is, and that's all it is. There's a development process within rebuilding that the regime should be judged on as they go, they're not successfully rebuilding because we stink. What I wanted to see was organizational progress, and the #1 priority there is the development of the guy they used a lot of assets and draft capital to get...yet we're basically going to lose an entire year of legitimate development for him. How it can be excused that after 2 offseasons with this regime, knowing the franchise QB they picked would be the difference between it being a success or a failure, that we have absolutely no protection or weapons for him? I don't know that he's going to be good even with that, I don't know if he has the accuracy to be a top level QB, but we have to find out as soon as possible. And what faith, not in the McDermott/Peterman way, are we supposed to have that this regime can identify talent on the o-line when after 2 offseasons we have one passable starter? Are we supposed to be confident that they can find 4 before next season? Let alone skill players at almost every single offensive position. The progression during the rebuild is what needs to be looked at, and I think it's alarming how many holes we have after 2 offseasons. A successful rebuild in today's NFL should really happen in 3 years and we're not even close to that. The organizational planning is also very concerning, most notably with obviously how the QB situation was so badly handled this year. When you watch these games from Peterman and Anderson...this is the brainpower and evaluation abilities of Beane and McDermott at work. I don't care about being 2-6 or whatever we end up with. But to basically lose an entire precious year of development on the offensive side of the ball doesn't instill much faith in Beane and McDermott's ability to rebuild. This has been discussed so much on here, you have the "this regime sucks no matter what they do" crowd and the "this regime can do no wrong crowd", I'm stuck somewhere in the middle. It's hard to judge this group, they have brought over their 4-3 group after abandoning the 3-4 group, got rid of the players they didn't see as scheme fits or locker room leaders. You state there is only 1 passable OL (I'm assuming you mean Dawkins) and that may be true but you forget to mention 2 of our players retired, were former G Pro Bowlers available to us during FA? Did we offer them a contract? We don't know this regime can find 4 starters but how do we know they can''t? It works both ways. Again like the OL comment you made, you comment on the "QB situation so badly handled", there have been links, including ones I have posted on this very subject stating that the Bills were in negotiations with not only Bradford, McCown but also Case Keenum well the 1st 2 I know for sure but they were said to be interested in Keenum and all of them appeared to have better WR situations which is why I'm assuming they went elsewhere, we also have no way of knowing how many other QB's they reached out to, tried trading for, etc. behind closed doors. They did what most GM/HC staff does when rebuilding, they concentrated on one side of the ball heavily, being a defensive minded coach he took care of the defense first and now we have our QB and what appears to be at the very least a #2 WR in Zay Jones, Marcus Murphy has potential at RB and Croom could also be a solid TE option for us down the road. To me this entire rebuild should be almost complete after the offseason. Plenty of OL help, not much in the form of WR, maybe offer John Brown another deal? Who knows but it's hard not to get excited, plus we have 10 picks, yes there are a bunch of lower round picks also but the more chances you have the more chances of good players also. How could you not be excited about the draft? Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano, Josh Allen, Terron Johnson, Harrison Phillips, Zay Jones , Trey White those are all very good building blocks for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 6 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: How it can be excused that after 2 offseasons with this regime, knowing the franchise QB they picked would be the difference between it being a success or a failure, that we have absolutely no protection or weapons ... It’s the mindset of McDermott. You can study tape long enough, go to meetings on time, correct mistakes, and out culture the league. He talked about it again this week, starting with habits and winning mindsets as a way to jump start the offense. I think its as simple as he thinks Kelvin Benjamin is good enough if he studies the tape hard enough. He doesn’t look at it like the fans do. This is not a talent problem, this is learning how to win and tipping our hat to the opponent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 4 hours ago, BillsVet said: How two guys can enter the season with a such a distinct lack of talent on offense is startling. Pot meet kettle. Better than the hole where most of YOUR air is coming out of! But I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Better than the hole where most of YOUR air is coming out of! But I digress. Millennial right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, John from Riverside said: .you have to get worse in order to get better because your going with a rookie qb Like the Seahawks in 2012? Or Washington in 2012? Or the Falcons in 2008? 7 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Many, including me, havent given up on Allen. Take a qb rd 2-4 and hope he develops. Maybe he develops into a 2, maybe he pushes to start, maybe he stinks! This is a QB league so you must invest in them and be able to identify which ones have a chance. Amen. Why put all your eggs in one basket? I'd also try to sign a competent FA QB. Edited November 3, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Progression is almost never always trending up.......for us it is has been and is going to be all over the place year 1 - make the playoffs......who does that in a rebiuld year 2 - this year.....more in line with what a rebiuld looks like year 3 - who knows? There simply is not enough data to even know yet. I know this. If we are not aggressively improving this offense in the offseason I will be off this current bills management train. The thing I found alarming is McD hired Dennison and Daboll, both have been awful, you begin to ask yourself if he understands offense. With that said, I don't think you can fire him yet. If you fire him now you didn't give him a fair shake. I think you give him 1 more offseason, if we come out soft next year fire him midseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcamino Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Was part of step one to get the QB and provide no protection around him for his first year of development? It was either a failure of talent evaluation or being inept in organizational planning. I personally just don't think either bodes well. Does everyone forget that we lost both Incognito and Wood unexpectedly? I don't think having to replace those two were a part of their plan last offseason. I believe those two situations are the biggest culprit of why our offense is this sad. If we had 3/5 OL playing well instead of 1/5, the other 2/5 would probably look better as well. Edited November 3, 2018 by Hellcamino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 6 hours ago, BillsVet said: Millennial right? Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: It’s the mindset of McDermott. You can study tape long enough, go to meetings on time, correct mistakes, and out culture the league. He talked about it again this week, starting with habits and winning mindsets as a way to jump start the offense. I think its as simple as he thinks Kelvin Benjamin is good enough if he studies the tape hard enough. He doesn’t look at it like the fans do. This is not a talent problem, this is learning how to win and tipping our hat to the opponent. Thank God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Hellcamino said: Does everyone forget that we lost both Incognito and Wood unexpectedly? I don't think having to replace those two were a part of their plan last offseason. I believe those two situations are the biggest culprit of why our offense is this sad. If we had 3/5 OL playing well instead of 1/5, the other 2/5 would probably look better as well. If we still had Cordy Glenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 16 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I'm not talking about the record, I've never cared about that for this season. But I think that's what some people think rebuilding is, and that's all it is. There's a development process within rebuilding that the regime should be judged on as they go, they're not successfully rebuilding because we stink. What I wanted to see was organizational progress, and the #1 priority there is the development of the guy they used a lot of assets and draft capital to get...yet we're basically going to lose an entire year of legitimate development for him. How it can be excused that after 2 offseasons with this regime, knowing the franchise QB they picked would be the difference between it being a success or a failure, that we have absolutely no protection or weapons for him? I don't know that he's going to be good even with that, I don't know if he has the accuracy to be a top level QB, but we have to find out as soon as possible. And what faith, not in the McDermott/Peterman way, are we supposed to have that this regime can identify talent on the o-line when after 2 offseasons we have one passable starter? Are we supposed to be confident that they can find 4 before next season? Let alone skill players at almost every single offensive position. The progression during the rebuild is what needs to be looked at, and I think it's alarming how many holes we have after 2 offseasons. A successful rebuild in today's NFL should really happen in 3 years and we're not even close to that. The organizational planning is also very concerning, most notably with obviously how the QB situation was so badly handled this year. When you watch these games from Peterman and Anderson...this is the brainpower and evaluation abilities of Beane and McDermott at work. I don't care about being 2-6 or whatever we end up with. But to basically lose an entire precious year of development on the offensive side of the ball doesn't instill much faith in Beane and McDermott's ability to rebuild. Thank you for an excellent, well thought out post. Unfortunately, you'll probably get all kinds of criticism for daring to point out the McDermott/Beane regime's failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The 2018 Bills are NOT in a rebuild! They’re still in full on demolition mode. Saying you’re rebuilding just because you drafted a QB is nonsense. Other than Josh Allen, who’s currently not even playing, can someone tell me which offensive player is part of this mythical rebuild? Answer...nobody! The Bills are literally starting completely over again on Offense in 2019 with no foundation whatsoever. They’ve got ten positions to fill in free agency and the draft. Good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDhill2 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The rebuild started with making the play-offs for the first time in 17 years. They are shedding 50 million in dead money cap space this year. Which is pretty uncommon. That's a lot of dead money I believe they do have an eye for talent... Milano, White, Edmunds, Johnson. Granted, these are all defensive players. It looks like the plan was to start to build the defense first and get your QB. I really think that this is the part of the season they planned on playing Allen anyhow. In regards to Peterman.... I do not like him and I do think it has been a bad decision to keep him and trade McCarron. The things they see in practice do not translate in games for any sustainable amount of time. It does bother me that they keep him around and I don't really care about his character. It does seem like he is a great guy but he lacks some tools. In regards to Anderson... I do not even consider this applicable. They were hard pressed to find a back up with experience to mentor Josh Allen at that time. That is why he came here. Unfortunately, he had to start. I heard that they tried to bring him in during the summer but he turned them down. It's painful to watch Peterman and not fun. Anderson seemed a lot more competent. The offensive line has been much better and they lost two pro bowlers unexpectedly. Hard to fill those shoes in one draft or off season. The trouble with the run game is that the QB play has been bad lately and it's difficult for WR's to get separation. We can always upgrade on the o-line though. I don't believe that means that the Beane lacks an eye for talent in regards to that. I do get concerned about WR. It doesn't look like stud WR's were a focal point in Carolina. It would be nice if they could draft some studs in that area or FA. Allen needs some time... his accuracy is pretty much where all the highly drafted rookie QB's are. He has quite a few drops too. I believe they thought it was going to take them 2-3 years to clean up the salary cap mess and get them in the right place while getting major building blocks for the future. It's a tough year and not a lot of fun as a fan, So, I understand the frustration. I feel like they are pretty much where they thought they would be. My two biggest things have this year have been Peterman decision and Marcus Murphy not being active for the Texans instead of Ray Ray McCloud. That totally cost us the game. That would have been a great win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 9 hours ago, BillsVet said: Millennial right? I doubt it.. They don’t know words such as digress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 16 hours ago, dneveu said: I'm in on another QB. I am not in on another 1st round QB. Yes, just not another noddle arm like Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 14 hours ago, Success said: This is a rebuild. All we’re debating is style points. Rebuilding for 17 plus years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 16 hours ago, John from Riverside said: This offensive line is in fact playing bad.....they cannot block for the run to save their lives....they cannot get out in front of screens......they are inconsistant in their pass protection They are playing bad Yeah i agree not sure what that guy has been watching all season long he must be the offensive line coach trying to save his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 42 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The 2018 Bills are NOT in a rebuild! They’re still in full on demolition mode. Saying you’re rebuilding just because you drafted a QB is nonsense. Other than Josh Allen, who’s currently not even playing, can someone tell me which offensive player is part of this mythical rebuild? Answer...nobody! The Bills are literally starting completely over again on Offense in 2019 with no foundation whatsoever. They’ve got ten positions to fill in free agency and the draft. Good luck! So.......they’re rebuilding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 9 hours ago, BillsVet said: Millennial right? Not at all. Why do you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bangarang said: So.......they’re rebuilding? That’s my point. They haven’t even started rebuilding. They’re still demolishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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