PUNT750 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 These are my picks for overpay vs. performance: -Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE?? -Patrick DiMarco, FB @ $2,050,00 with a $3 mil dead cap hit. In his 7 year NFL career he has rushed for -2 (minus 2) yards in 3 carries. He has 45 receptions for an average of 6.4 / year. That much for a blocking back? Are there more on your list??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Since you’re saying performance based ...Charles Clay hands down then McCoy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, PUNT750 said: These are my picks for overpay vs. performance: -Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE?? -Patrick DiMarco, FB @ $2,050,00 with a $3 mil dead cap hit. In his 7 year NFL career he has rushed for -2 (minus 2) yards in 3 carries. He has 45 receptions for an average of 6.4 / year. That much for a blocking back? Are there more on your list??? Stanford and DiMarcos value was supposed to be tied to their ST value. Given our ST is awful, it makes it even worse. Clay is probably the worst contract in Bills history. Not because he's been the worst player we ever signed to a big money deal, but because it's been impossible for us to get out from under it. The way it was structured made him more expensive to release than to keep. It doesn't help that for whatever reason, most of the TEs in the league are sucking real bad this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Stanford and DiMarcos value was supposed to be tied to their ST value. Given our ST is awful, it makes it even worse. Clay is probably the worst contract in Bills history. Not because he's been the worst player we ever signed to a big money deal, but because it's been impossible for us to get out from under it. The way it was structured made him more expensive to release than to keep. It doesn't help that for whatever reason, most of the TEs in the league are sucking real bad this year. TE is a wasteland in fantasy football. You're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Clay is probably the worst contract in Bills history. Not because he's been the worst player we ever signed to a big money deal, but because it's been impossible for us to get out from under it. The way it was structured made him more expensive to release than to keep. I remember when we signed him Overdorf and Whaley were lauded for the brilliancy of that contract, because they structured it in such a way that Miami couldn't match it under their salary cap constraints. Hey, they were right, Miami didn't match it.... Edited October 20, 2018 by QCity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, PUNT750 said: These are my picks for overpay vs. performance: -Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE?? 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Stanford and DiMarcos value was supposed to be tied to their ST value. Given our ST is awful, it makes it even worse. I'm just going off of what Lorenzo Alexander said on OneBillsLive today, but when talking about the special teams issues the last couple of weeks he said something to the effect of, "We get Julian Stanford back this week, he's one of our big special teams players, so that will help a lot." I hadn't really noticed him on special teams or realized that he was injured, but Zo thinks he's an important player. Overpaid for current production: Clay DiMarco Benjamin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, QCity said: I remember when we signed him Overdorf and Whaley were lauded for the brilliancy of that contract, because they structured it in such a way that Miami couldn't match it under their salary cap constraints. Hey, they were right, Miami didn't match it.... To be fair to them, Clay ended up being the best TE out of the 3 premium guys that year. At the time, he was looked at as a consolation prize but Jordan Cameron and Julius Thomas flamed right out of the league after their big deals. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Stanford is a ridiculous athlete who excels on special teams. He was apparently outplaying Darron Lee in NY but never got a real shot because Lee was the first round pick. As folz said up top, he's been injured and out of the lineup and that has likely hurt the special teams units. I think that is a lot of money for a guy with that role, but I guess I will have to wait to see his impact. Dimarco was basically the best fullback in the league for 4-5 years in Atlanta and simply hasn't been used very much here. I do think they really came close to signing Kyle Juszczyk a couple of years ago and when they lost him may have panicked and pivoted to Dimarco. Edited October 20, 2018 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Kelvin Benjamin (8.5 million dead cap hit) and Charles Clay (9 million dead cap hit) by far. Edited October 20, 2018 by Doc Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Currently, the whole offence is being overpaid, as it simply isn't functioning. I think that some of the guys, e.g. Shady, get that, too, and I'd rather not include him in the statement, but it is what it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Kelvin Benjamin!! Anytime you can pay a guy $8.5M to get you 2 catches and 29 yards a game you have to do it!! The only thing that matches that insane production is his incredible work ethic. He’s such a heady player. We are really fortunate to have him setting the tone for that young WR room. Edited October 20, 2018 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 48 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Kelvin Benjamin!! Anytime you can pay a guy $8.5M to get you 2 catches and 29 yards a game you have to do it!! So at that rate the Bills are paying him $500k per game or $250k per catch....nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So at that rate the Bills are paying him $500k per game or $250k per catch....nice! Yep!! On top of it, that’s his primary job!! It’s not like he’s a blocking back that they throw to once and a while. He’s an atrocious football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 7 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Stanford and DiMarcos value was supposed to be tied to their ST value. Given our ST is awful, it makes it even worse. Clay is probably the worst contract in Bills history. Not because he's been the worst player we ever signed to a big money deal, but because it's been impossible for us to get out from under it. The way it was structured made him more expensive to release than to keep. It doesn't help that for whatever reason, most of the TEs in the league are sucking real bad this year. The problem with Clay is they don't use him properly. He CAN be a matchup nightmare, but how can that happen when you don't get him the ball? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Benjamin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 15 hours ago, PUNT750 said: These are my picks for overpay vs. performance: -Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE?? -Patrick DiMarco, FB @ $2,050,00 with a $3 mil dead cap hit. In his 7 year NFL career he has rushed for -2 (minus 2) yards in 3 carries. He has 45 receptions for an average of 6.4 / year. That much for a blocking back? Are there more on your list??? I have not heard Julian Stanford’s name once this year. $1.65 million ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 has Dimarco made a play since he signed with the Bills? Awful contract. And when the Bills ripped up Shadys contract and gave him a huge raise- another ***** move. And every WR move the Beane has made he got ripped off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 15 hours ago, PUNT750 said: These are my picks for overpay vs. performance: -Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE?? -Patrick DiMarco, FB @ $2,050,00 with a $3 mil dead cap hit. In his 7 year NFL career he has rushed for -2 (minus 2) yards in 3 carries. He has 45 receptions for an average of 6.4 / year. That much for a blocking back? Are there more on your list??? They wouldn’t be the Bills if they didn’t have overpaid FB on the roster. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 9 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Since you’re saying performance based ...Charles Clay hands down then McCoy ....but the cap hit does not become digestible until 2019, designated as a post June 1 cut.....Bflo got snookered by the Fins, hoping to drive up their cap hit by matching the signed offer sheet....woefully backfired....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 IDK what McDermotts salary is, but it’s too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1. Beane 2. McClappy 3. Clay 4. Shady 5. K. Williams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I don’t get clay. His contract is quite large, but for whatever reason he is never targeted. He can be a weapon, it’s not like he’s never open. His entire time here he’s barely ever used. Maybe he sucks and I’m missing it, just never understood why he wasn’t gameplanned into our offense especially this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yep!! On top of it, that’s his primary job!! It’s not like he’s a blocking back that they throw to once and a while. He’s an atrocious football player. If Beane is worth his salt, KB will be gone in the next few weeks. Btw, the pick 6 was obviously the fault of NP, but did anyone notice the atrocious, lazy route run by KB. He is not a QB's friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, billykay said: If Beane is worth his salt, KB will be gone in the next few weeks. Btw, the pick 6 was obviously the fault of NP, but did anyone notice the atrocious, lazy route run by KB. He is not a QB's friend. I also noticed that KB didn’t even try to run down the CB after the pick. If I’m the Coach he sits down for a week or two and thinks about whether he wants to compete. (I said the same about Mario in his past few games...but Rex kept playing him!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I also noticed that KB didn’t even try to run down the CB after the pick. If I’m the Coach he sits down for a week or two and thinks about whether he wants to compete. (I said the same about Mario in his past few games...but Rex kept playing him!) You’d rather him sit than win?? you're one of those “process” type guys aren’t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t get clay. His contract is quite large, but for whatever reason he is never targeted. He can be a weapon, it’s not like he’s never open. His entire time here he’s barely ever used. Maybe he sucks and I’m missing it, just never understood why he wasn’t gameplanned into our offense especially this year When we snookered him away from Mia, I was pretty excited about all the tackles he broke after making catches. He seemed like a super TE. I haven’t seen him break a tackle in 2 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: When we snookered him away from Mia, I was pretty excited about all the tackles he broke after making catches. He seemed like a super TE. I haven’t seen him break a tackle in 2 years. I agree. To be fair though he only has like 25 targets in those two years ?? And 8 of those might of been against Miami which is generally the only games I notice him out there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Coleman and/or McCarron alwas nice when you gaurantee guys top 10-15 pay on your team and they don’t play a snap for you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 15 hours ago, MJS said: TE is a wasteland in fantasy football. You're right. Very true. A couple of good young ones coming up though. I like Burton and Kittle going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Benjamin Bojorquez - Dropped snap, botched field goal that should have been a pick 6, 2 long returns, and then blocked punt. The guy averages 1 disasterous play per game. It doesnt matter if he is paid the minimum, he’s a huge negative at a position that just needs to be neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: When we snookered him away from Mia, I was pretty excited about all the tackles he broke after making catches. He seemed like a super TE. I haven’t seen him break a tackle in 2 years. He looked best in a few games back in 2015. Pretty major disappointment since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: When we snookered him away from Mia, I was pretty excited about all the tackles he broke after making catches. He seemed like a super TE. I haven’t seen him break a tackle in 2 years. No kidding. Always thought he was one of the best at breaking tackles and YAC as well. Until he got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t get clay. His contract is quite large, but for whatever reason he is never targeted. He can be a weapon, it’s not like he’s never open. His entire time here he’s barely ever used. Maybe he sucks and I’m missing it, just never understood why he wasn’t gameplanned into our offense especially this year I don’t get what’s up with Clay either. Maybe we will see tomorrow, Anderson should be able to get him the ball if he’s open. It could be very telling of Allen if Clay does get going. Benjamin too although I have had the feeling he has been playing hurt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 21 hours ago, QCity said: I remember when we signed him Overdorf and Whaley were lauded for the brilliancy of that contract, because they structured it in such a way that Miami couldn't match it under their salary cap constraints. Hey, they were right, Miami didn't match it.... Russ Brandon was in that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 10/20/2018 at 12:26 AM, folz said: I'm just going off of what Lorenzo Alexander said on OneBillsLive today, but when talking about the special teams issues the last couple of weeks he said something to the effect of, "We get Julian Stanford back this week, he's one of our big special teams players, so that will help a lot." I hadn't really noticed him on special teams or realized that he was injured, but Zo thinks he's an important player. Overpaid for current production: Clay DiMarco Benjamin I agree, these 3 are the biggest money vampires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 hours ago, leonbus23 said: Russ Brandon was in that too. #metoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 19 hours ago, matter2003 said: The problem with Clay is they don't use him properly. He CAN be a matchup nightmare, but how can that happen when you don't get him the ball? Miami knew how to use him as an H Back. He doesn't have the size or speed to be a dominant traditional TE, but before his knees went to ***** he did have a lot of wiggle in the open field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Peterman.....you don't have to even look up what he is paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Kelvin Benjamin is the worse contract because he isn’t trying. I wouldn’t cut him . I would IR him for mental issues! Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Reks Ryan said: Benjamin Bojorquez - Dropped snap, botched field goal that should have been a pick 6, 2 long returns, and then blocked punt. The guy averages 1 disasterous play per game. It doesnt matter if he is paid the minimum, he’s a huge negative at a position that just needs to be neutral. Dropped snap: Pouring rain Botched FG: Missed communication, it happens, especially with rookies. Long returns: Product of short kicks or poor coverage? Can't really blame the kicker when the guys in front of him don't tackle. The kid is a rookie who has a booming leg and consistently pins opponents deep. He's the least of this teams concerns. IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts