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These are my picks for overpay vs. performance:

 

-Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE??

-Patrick DiMarco, FB @ $2,050,00 with a $3 mil dead cap hit. In his 7 year NFL career he has rushed for -2 (minus 2) yards in 3 carries. He has 45 receptions for an average of 6.4 / year. That much for a blocking back?

 

Are there more on your list???
 

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6 hours ago, PUNT750 said:

These are my picks for overpay vs. performance:

 

-Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE??

-Patrick DiMarco, FB @ $2,050,00 with a $3 mil dead cap hit. In his 7 year NFL career he has rushed for -2 (minus 2) yards in 3 carries. He has 45 receptions for an average of 6.4 / year. That much for a blocking back?

 

Are there more on your list???
 

 

Stanford and DiMarcos value was supposed to be tied to their ST value. Given our ST is awful, it makes it even worse.

Clay is probably the worst contract in Bills history. Not because he's been the worst player we ever signed to a big money deal, but because it's been impossible for us to get out from under it. The way it was structured made him more expensive to release than to keep. It doesn't help that for whatever reason, most of the TEs in the league are sucking real bad this year.

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6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

Stanford and DiMarcos value was supposed to be tied to their ST value. Given our ST is awful, it makes it even worse.

Clay is probably the worst contract in Bills history. Not because he's been the worst player we ever signed to a big money deal, but because it's been impossible for us to get out from under it. The way it was structured made him more expensive to release than to keep. It doesn't help that for whatever reason, most of the TEs in the league are sucking real bad this year.

 

TE is a wasteland in fantasy football. You're right.

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12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

 


Clay is probably the worst contract in Bills history. Not because he's been the worst player we ever signed to a big money deal, but because it's been impossible for us to get out from under it. The way it was structured made him more expensive to release than to keep.

 

I remember when we signed him Overdorf and Whaley were lauded for the brilliancy of that contract, because they structured it in such a way that Miami couldn't match it under their salary cap constraints.   :wallbash:  Hey, they were right, Miami didn't match it....

 

 

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6 hours ago, PUNT750 said:

These are my picks for overpay vs. performance:

 

-Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE??

 

 

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

Stanford and DiMarcos value was supposed to be tied to their ST value. Given our ST is awful, it makes it even worse.
 

 

I'm just going off of what Lorenzo Alexander said on OneBillsLive today, but when talking about the special teams issues the last couple of weeks he said something to the effect of, "We get Julian Stanford back this week, he's one of our big special teams players, so that will help a lot." I hadn't really noticed him on special teams or realized that he was injured, but Zo thinks he's an important player.

 

Overpaid for current production:

Clay

DiMarco

Benjamin

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4 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

I remember when we signed him Overdorf and Whaley were lauded for the brilliancy of that contract, because they structured it in such a way that Miami couldn't match it under their salary cap constraints.   :wallbash:  Hey, they were right, Miami didn't match it....

 

 

 

To be fair to them, Clay ended up being the best TE out of the 3 premium guys that year. At the time, he was looked at as a consolation prize but Jordan Cameron and Julius Thomas flamed right out of the league after their big deals. 

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Stanford is a ridiculous athlete who excels on special teams. He was apparently outplaying Darron Lee in NY but never got a real shot because Lee was the first round pick. As folz said up top, he's been injured and out of the lineup and that has likely hurt the special teams units. I think that is a lot of money for a guy with that role, but I guess I will have to wait to see his impact. 

 

Dimarco was basically the best fullback in the league for 4-5 years in Atlanta and simply hasn't been used very much here. I do think they really came close to signing Kyle Juszczyk a couple of years ago and when they lost him may have panicked and pivoted to Dimarco. 

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Kelvin Benjamin!! Anytime you can pay a guy $8.5M to get you 2 catches and 29 yards a game you have to do it!! The only thing that matches that insane production is his incredible work ethic. He’s such a heady player. We are really fortunate to have him setting the tone for that young WR room.

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7 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

Stanford and DiMarcos value was supposed to be tied to their ST value. Given our ST is awful, it makes it even worse.

Clay is probably the worst contract in Bills history. Not because he's been the worst player we ever signed to a big money deal, but because it's been impossible for us to get out from under it. The way it was structured made him more expensive to release than to keep. It doesn't help that for whatever reason, most of the TEs in the league are sucking real bad this year.

 

The problem with Clay is they don't use him properly.  He CAN be a matchup nightmare, but how can that happen when you don't get him the ball?

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15 hours ago, PUNT750 said:

These are my picks for overpay vs. performance:

 

-Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE??

-Patrick DiMarco, FB @ $2,050,00 with a $3 mil dead cap hit. In his 7 year NFL career he has rushed for -2 (minus 2) yards in 3 carries. He has 45 receptions for an average of 6.4 / year. That much for a blocking back?

 

Are there more on your list???
 

 

I have not heard Julian Stanford’s name once this year. $1.65 million ?

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has Dimarco made a play since he signed with the Bills?  Awful contract.  And when the Bills ripped up Shadys contract and gave him a huge raise- another ***** move.  And every WR move the Beane has made he got ripped off

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15 hours ago, PUNT750 said:

These are my picks for overpay vs. performance:

 

-Julian Stanford, LB @$1.5 mil with a $1.65 dead cap hit. The Bills are his 4th team in a 6 year NFL career. He has a total of 49 tackles in those 6 years. WHO IS HE??

-Patrick DiMarco, FB @ $2,050,00 with a $3 mil dead cap hit. In his 7 year NFL career he has rushed for -2 (minus 2) yards in 3 carries. He has 45 receptions for an average of 6.4 / year. That much for a blocking back?

 

Are there more on your list???
 

They wouldn’t be the Bills if they didn’t have overpaid FB on the roster. ??

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9 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Since you’re saying performance based ...Charles Clay hands down then McCoy

 

 

....but the cap hit does not become digestible until 2019, designated as a post June 1 cut.....Bflo got snookered by the Fins, hoping to drive up their cap hit by matching the signed offer sheet....woefully backfired.......

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I don’t get clay. 

His contract is quite large, but for whatever reason he is never targeted. He can be a weapon, it’s not like he’s never open. His entire time here he’s barely ever used. Maybe he sucks and I’m missing it, just never understood why he wasn’t gameplanned into our offense especially this year 

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4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Yep!! On top of it, that’s his primary job!! It’s not like he’s a blocking back that they throw to once and a while. He’s an atrocious football player.

If Beane is worth his salt, KB will be gone in the next few weeks. Btw, the pick 6 was obviously the fault of NP, but did anyone notice the atrocious, lazy route run by KB. He is not a QB's friend.

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1 hour ago, billykay said:

If Beane is worth his salt, KB will be gone in the next few weeks. Btw, the pick 6 was obviously the fault of NP, but did anyone notice the atrocious, lazy route run by KB. He is not a QB's friend.

I also noticed that KB didn’t even try to run down the CB after the pick. If I’m the Coach he sits down for a week or two and thinks about whether he wants to compete. (I said the same about Mario in his past few games...but Rex kept playing him!)

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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

I also noticed that KB didn’t even try to run down the CB after the pick. If I’m the Coach he sits down for a week or two and thinks about whether he wants to compete. (I said the same about Mario in his past few games...but Rex kept playing him!)

You’d rather him sit than win??

 

you're one of those “process” type guys aren’t you?

 

 

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3 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

I don’t get clay. 

His contract is quite large, but for whatever reason he is never targeted. He can be a weapon, it’s not like he’s never open. His entire time here he’s barely ever used. Maybe he sucks and I’m missing it, just never understood why he wasn’t gameplanned into our offense especially this year 

When we snookered him away from Mia, I was pretty excited about all the tackles he broke after making catches. He seemed like a super TE. 

I haven’t seen him break a tackle in 2 years.

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32 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

When we snookered him away from Mia, I was pretty excited about all the tackles he broke after making catches. He seemed like a super TE. 

I haven’t seen him break a tackle in 2 years.

I agree. 

To be fair though he only has like 25 targets in those two years ?? And 8 of those might of been against Miami which is generally the only games I notice him out there 

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Benjamin

  Bojorquez - Dropped snap,  botched field goal that should have been a pick 6, 2 long returns, and then blocked punt.  The guy averages 1 disasterous play per game.  It doesnt matter if he is paid the minimum, he’s a huge negative at a position that just needs to be neutral.

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3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

When we snookered him away from Mia, I was pretty excited about all the tackles he broke after making catches. He seemed like a super TE. 

I haven’t seen him break a tackle in 2 years.

He looked best in a few games back in 2015. Pretty major disappointment since then. 

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3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

When we snookered him away from Mia, I was pretty excited about all the tackles he broke after making catches. He seemed like a super TE. 

I haven’t seen him break a tackle in 2 years.

No kidding. Always thought he was one of the best at breaking tackles and YAC as well. Until he got here.

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8 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

I don’t get clay. 

His contract is quite large, but for whatever reason he is never targeted. He can be a weapon, it’s not like he’s never open. His entire time here he’s barely ever used. Maybe he sucks and I’m missing it, just never understood why he wasn’t gameplanned into our offense especially this year 

I don’t get what’s up with Clay either. Maybe we will see tomorrow, Anderson should be able to get him the ball if he’s open. It could be very telling of Allen if Clay does get going. Benjamin too although I have had the feeling he has been playing hurt!

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21 hours ago, QCity said:

 

I remember when we signed him Overdorf and Whaley were lauded for the brilliancy of that contract, because they structured it in such a way that Miami couldn't match it under their salary cap constraints.   :wallbash:  Hey, they were right, Miami didn't match it....

 

 

 

Russ Brandon was in that too.

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On 10/20/2018 at 12:26 AM, folz said:

 

 

I'm just going off of what Lorenzo Alexander said on OneBillsLive today, but when talking about the special teams issues the last couple of weeks he said something to the effect of, "We get Julian Stanford back this week, he's one of our big special teams players, so that will help a lot." I hadn't really noticed him on special teams or realized that he was injured, but Zo thinks he's an important player.

 

Overpaid for current production:

Clay

DiMarco

Benjamin

I agree, these 3 are the biggest money vampires. 

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19 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

The problem with Clay is they don't use him properly.  He CAN be a matchup nightmare, but how can that happen when you don't get him the ball?

 

Miami knew how to use him as an H Back. He doesn't have the size or speed to be a dominant traditional TE, but before his knees went to ***** he did have a lot of wiggle in the open field.

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11 hours ago, Reks Ryan said:

Benjamin

  Bojorquez - Dropped snap,  botched field goal that should have been a pick 6, 2 long returns, and then blocked punt.  The guy averages 1 disasterous play per game.  It doesnt matter if he is paid the minimum, he’s a huge negative at a position that just needs to be neutral.

Dropped snap: Pouring rain

 

Botched FG: Missed communication, it happens, especially with rookies.

 

Long returns: Product of short kicks or poor coverage? Can't really blame the kicker when the guys in front of him don't tackle.

 

The kid is a rookie who has a booming leg and consistently pins opponents deep. He's the least of this teams concerns. IMO

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