1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) Now that Anderson is at the helm, it will allow us to make some final decisions on a few things: #1 KB- If KB was frustrated with crappy QB play, then at least he has some familiarity with Anderson. If they get on the same page over the next few weeks, it will go a long way to point out the root of the problem. If KB steps up, then we know that is was on the QB's. If KB is the same POS, then we can run him out of town with no regrets. #2 DaBoll. Anderson is a wise vet, though he doesn't have the physical talent of Allen. If DaBoll is a real OC we will see if he can scheme up plays that actually work. Although the play book will be dumbed down, the basic scheme can be executed by a veteran who understands pre-snap alignments and pressure. This alone should put people in the right position to make plays and execute their assignments. #3 the RB's and OL Since we should be a little more run heavy, we get the opportunity to see if we can enforce our will at the LOS. With Anderson able to make the adjustments and intermediate throws, including the dreaded NP out, perhaps we can achieve some balance. If Murphy and Ivory really step up, then it may be time to get something for Shady. Personally, I'd like to see Shady play out his contract here. This is also a great opportunity to see what we have on our OL once and for all. #4 Peterson. It seems the wise choice was made and the pressure is off Peterman to carry the offense. If Anderson goes down for any reason, this is Nate's last chance at redemption. He should be shown the door, but stranger things have happened. I'm glad McD wised up and went with the vet. If Anderson blows up, then going back to Peterman will be his only choice and it's better than trying the opposite. Add your takes on what you see playing out over the next 2-4 weeks. Edited October 17, 2018 by BillsRdue 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I have this weird feeling that Anderson rips off a couple wins in relief, fans clamor for him to stay in, he has a terrible 3rd game, and we are then back to Allen due to said clamoring fans. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Everyone’s record? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: #2 DaBoll. Anderson is a wise vet, though he doesn't have the physical talent of Allen. If DaBoll is a real OC we will see if he can scheme up plays that actually work. Although the play book will be dumbed down, the basic scheme can be executed by a veteran who understands pre-snap alignments and pressure. This alone should put people in the right position to make plays and execute their assignments. If Daboll was a real OC, why wasn't the playbook dumbed down for a green as grass rookie, but the expectations are for it to be dumbed down for a vet QB? Even with a week as a Bill, Anderson should be able to pick up the playbook a lot quicker than a rookie who, to make things worse, didn't get to work with the first team as a penciled in starter would in TC. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: If Daboll was a real OC, why wasn't the playbook dumbed down for a green as grass rookie, but the expectations are for it to be dumbed down for a vet QB? Even with a week as a Bill, Anderson should be able to pick up the playbook a lot quicker than a rookie who, to make things worse, didn't get to work with the first team as a penciled in starter would in TC. I don’t think his playbook ever needs to be dumbed down. It looks basic to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattanoogaBills Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I see some ugly losses and no wins as teams will have little to no fear of anderson scrambling and our oline being exposed as bottom 5 in the league... We will beg for Josh Allen to be rushed back and wont win another game until he returns to the starting line-up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, ChattanoogaBills said: I see some ugly losses and no wins as teams will have little to no fear of anderson scrambling and our oline being exposed as bottom 5 in the league... We will beg for Josh Allen to be rushed back and wont win another game until he returns to the starting line-up Anderson couldn't scramble when he was young, I hope the Bills OL doesn't get him killed. They aspire to be the bottom 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 58 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: I have this weird feeling that Anderson rips off a couple wins in relief, fans clamor for him to stay in, he has a terrible 3rd game, and we are then back to Allen due to said clamoring fans. I'll take that. Ripping off a few wins with a terrible 3rd game puts us at 4-5 with a MNF win over the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 What the Bills record is gonna be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Seasons1992 said: I have this weird feeling that Anderson rips off a couple wins in relief, fans clamor for him to stay in, he has a terrible 3rd game, and we are then back to Allen due to said clamoring fans. The fans don't determine the starting QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The is no way in Hades, no possible way, Anderson can be worse than Peterman. Anderson could take snaps in the Shotgun from his knees, throw left handed, and still be better than Peterpick. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Seasons1992 said: I have this weird feeling that Anderson rips off a couple wins in relief, fans clamor for him to stay in, he has a terrible 3rd game, and we are then back to Allen due to said clamoring fans. Anderson needs to grow a Fitzpatrick beard for that to happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 In typical Bills fashion, Anderson gets us the next two wins...including a Monday Nighter against the Patriots, and they offer him Franchise money to become the next big star only to suffer Buyer's Remorse three weeks later. Shoot me now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Hold on - did we trade for Tom Brady and he legally changed his name to Derek Anderson? Otherwise I can’t see why you can make these assumptions based on a journeyman who was sitting on his couch just over a week ago and in his prime was the other team’s QB in the 3-6 game nearly a decade ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: In typical Bills fashion, Anderson gets us the next two wins...including a Monday Nighter against the Patriots, and they offer him Franchise money to become the next big star only to suffer Buyer's Remorse three weeks later. Shoot me now. I'll take the first part any day. A win is a win. I don't want the first pick that badly. Unless we view Bosa as a confirmation prize for enduring this year. 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Hold on - did we trade for Tom Brady and he legally changed his name to Derek Anderson? Otherwise I can’t see why you can make these assumptions based on a journeyman who was sitting on his couch just over a week ago and in his prime was the other team’s QB in the 3-6 game nearly a decade ago. Every Bills fan is blinded by optimism and drunk on Kool-Aide hoping and praying we get average play from whoever we trot out as our QB. This is no different. We hope and dream that somehow we uncovered a gem or struck lightning in a bottle and magically we get better. Realism sets in after a difficult loss and we come here to b*tch. Edited October 17, 2018 by BillsRdue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsRdue said: Now that Anderson is at the helm, it will allow us to make some final decisions on a few things: #1 KB- If KB was frustrated with crappy QB play, then at least he has some familiarity with Anderson. If they get on the same page over the next few weeks, it will go a long way to point out the root of the problem. If KB steps up, then we know that is was on the QB's. If KB is the same POS, then we can run him out of town with no regrets. #2 DaBoll. Anderson is a wise vet, though he doesn't have the physical talent of Allen. If DaBoll is a real OC we will see if he can scheme up plays that actually work. Although the play book will be dumbed down, the basic scheme can be executed by a veteran who understands pre-snap alignments and pressure. This alone should put people in the right position to make plays and execute their assignments. #3 the RB's and OL Since we should be a little more run heavy, we get the opportunity to see if we can enforce our will at the LOS. With Anderson able to make the adjustments and intermediate throws, including the dreaded NP out, perhaps we can achieve some balance. If Murphy and Ivory really step up, then it may be time to get something for Shady. Personally, I'd like to see Shady play out his contract here. This is also a great opportunity to see what we have on our OL once and for all. #4 Peterson. It seems the wise choice was made and the pressure is off Peterman to carry the offense. If Anderson goes down for any reason, this is Nate's last chance at redemption. He should be shown the door, but stranger things have happened. I'm glad McD wised up and went with the vet. If Anderson blows up, then going back to Peterman will be his only choice and it's better than trying the opposite. Add your takes on what you see playing out over the next 2-4 weeks. I'm pretty sure that nothing stranger has ever happened than for an historically wretched QB like Peterman to somehow redeem his moribund career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: I don’t think his playbook ever needs to be dumbed down. It looks basic to me. Well Ray, a leak from Bill's camp is that they're installing the screen pass but they're still struggling to figure it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: If Daboll was a real OC, why wasn't the playbook dumbed down for a green as grass rookie, but the expectations are for it to be dumbed down for a vet QB? Even with a week as a Bill, Anderson should be able to pick up the playbook a lot quicker than a rookie who, to make things worse, didn't get to work with the first team as a penciled in starter would in TC. You really know nothing about the different offensive systems in the NFL do you. Earnhardt Perkins is an exstremly complex offensive system. Big time WR have gone to NE and failed. Fortunately Anderson has some experience with it. 4 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: 1 hour ago, Ray Finkel said: I don’t think his playbook ever needs to be dumbed down. It looks basic to me. See above Edited October 17, 2018 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 What if Anderson kraps the bed Sunday? And, There is a very good possibility of this. Peterson, nothing needs to be said on him. No what does the Process do? Look at the tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: You really know nothing about the different offensive systems in the NFL do you. Earnhardt Perkins is an exstremly complex offensive system. Big time WR have gone to NE and failed. Fortunately Anderson has some experience with it. See above Then WHY wasn't it dumbed down for Josh Allen? That was the crux of my initial post, which you didn't seem to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, ChattanoogaBills said: I see some ugly losses and no wins as teams will have little to no fear of anderson scrambling and our oline being exposed as bottom 5 in the league... We will beg for Josh Allen to be rushed back and wont win another game until he returns to the starting line-up You're right. His 80 yards of passing are going to be sorely missed. He's averaging 138 per game for the season. I think Mahomes and Brady both had more than that in the last 5 minutes of the game last Sunday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Seasons1992 said: I have this weird feeling that Anderson rips off a couple wins in relief, fans clamor for him to stay in, he has a terrible 3rd game, and we are then back to Allen due to said clamoring fans. Ha ha I was thinking the same thing, I hope he'll have a good game against the Colts and be crowned the saviour. Follow it up with a bad game and so we go back into meltdown because that's what this board is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Anderson couldn't scramble when he was young, I hope the Bills OL doesn't get him killed. They aspire to be the bottom 5th. They are actually playing serviceable currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: If Daboll was a real OC, why wasn't the playbook dumbed down for a green as grass rookie, but the expectations are for it to be dumbed down for a vet QB? Even with a week as a Bill, Anderson should be able to pick up the playbook a lot quicker than a rookie who, to make things worse, didn't get to work with the first team as a penciled in starter would in TC. The play book with Allen at the helm cant be dumbed down any further- Dabolls offense is a joke and would suck in college too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 What a lame team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: If Daboll was a real OC, why wasn't the playbook dumbed down for a green as grass rookie, but the expectations are for it to be dumbed down for a vet QB? Because 'the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak'? (Matthew 26:41). And no, I won't be attending Bible study with anyone anytime soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Winning 3 of the next 4 is not an unrealistic possibility. We have a better chance with a rusty vet than we do with pickoff Peterman. And as an extra bonus, Allen gets to step back and watch how an experienced pro handles things. The time off watching and learning should really help him 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Seasons1992 said: I have this weird feeling that Anderson rips off a couple wins in relief, fans clamor for him to stay in, he has a terrible 3rd game, and we are then back to Allen due to said clamoring fans. He lead the Browns of all teams to 10-6 once... He can do it maybe with this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I am not saying that Anderson is the answer but our defense has to have taken some of the pressure off in Anderson's mind. If something is not there he will be more likely to throw the pass away versus trying to extend a play only to be sacked, fumble, or throw an int. A vet's mentality versus a rookie trying to impress the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Seasons1992 said: I have this weird feeling that Anderson rips off a couple wins in relief, fans clamor for him to stay in, he has a terrible 3rd game, and we are then back to Allen due to said clamoring fans. I think they are going to be cautious with Allen. I would be shocked as long as Anderson looks even remotely decent if they don't stick with him until the Dolphins game December 2nd where Allen can come back and play the last 5 games of the season after resting 6 weeks. If the Bills go 1-2 in the next 3 games they slide to 3-6, still possible to make the playoffs but the team isn't rushing Aaron Rodgers back to try and salvage a season. If the Bills go 0-3 (which is very possible if they lose to the Colts) in the next 3 then the team is 2-7 and the season is cooked. If Allen was healthy and you are 2-7 then go for it let the rookie play. But there is no need to risk further injury by playing him a week or two early. I just don't see a reason to rush Allen back until at least week 12 against the Jags which would be after the bye week. If the Jags are playing great defense or Anderson is playing better than expected maybe sitting Allen until the Dolphins game might be the better idea. Edited October 17, 2018 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, H2o said: The is no way in Hades, no possible way, Anderson can be worse than Peterman. Anderson could take snaps in the Shotgun from his knees, throw left handed, and still be better than Peterpick. Hey, what do you suppose Gale Gilbert's up to?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BmarvB said: The time off watching and learning should really help him I really think ( and hope ) you're right here. Is there another scrub veteran on the FA market we could bring in to backup once we release Peterman? Edited October 17, 2018 by rodneykm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: Then WHY wasn't it dumbed down for Josh Allen? That was the crux of my initial post, which you didn't seem to get. It wasn’t. Schemes don’t get dumbed down. The entire playbook just doesn’t get implemented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: In typical Bills fashion, Anderson gets us the next two wins...including a Monday Nighter against the Patriots, and they offer him Franchise money to become the next big star only to suffer Buyer's Remorse three weeks later. Shoot me now. Seems you have seen this before.... 27 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: He lead the Browns of all teams to 10-6 once... He can do it maybe with this defense. Starting Sunday...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, iinii said: Everyone’s record? I was going with......did we make any trades? But your answer is also correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Ray Finkel said: I don’t think his playbook ever needs to be dumbed down. It looks basic to me. ....not much in the way of innovation or ability to adjust....sure he probably has a learning curve as an OC and with a rook QB, but he's been around the game long enough to show something in BOTH areas...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, nucci said: The fans don't determine the starting QB WHAT ! Fire everyone then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Hey, what do you suppose Gale Gilbert's up to?... ...playing Gin Rummy with Gary Marangi I think............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, BillsRdue said: Add your takes on what you see playing out over the next 2-4 weeks. By the trade deadline we'll know whether they consider this season to be a complete rebuilding year. If they trade Shady, then they're officially throwing in the towel and tooling up for next year's draft. If not, it means they think there's still a chance, however remote it may be, to have a winning season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, WhoTom said: By the trade deadline we'll know whether they consider this season to be a complete rebuilding year. If they trade Shady, then they're officially throwing in the towel and tooling up for next year's draft. If not, it means they think there's still a chance, however remote it may be, to have a winning season. i do not think it is an either/or proposition via trade deadline. But yes, if Shady goes away , we are calling it a wash. But how do you do that with the defense playing so well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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