Zay Jones’ Father Goes After John Warrow, Jerry Sullivan and More on Twitter

[GG]

1 minute ago, the skycap said:

Explain Woods, Hogan and Goodwin success since leaving?

 

Their production isn’t too far off from how they performed in Buffalo, except for Goodwin who rededicated himself to football.

 

Zay, on the other hand needs to show that he can play WR first.  There was little doubt that the other 3 were bona fide WRs. 

[Irv]

Has Zay had the armadillos removed from his hands yet?  Offseason surgery?

Edited September 13, 2018 by Irv

[26TrapDraw]

25 minutes ago, BananaB said:

All these tweets is kind of embarrassing more then anything for Zay.... He had rough year last season but I still think he can be a quality player for us. 

What language is this?

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

There was so much talent in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the 2017 draft.   This is the type of pick that really makes the current regime look a lot like what we have had here before.

[Punching Bag]

48 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

That was a Whaley pick  ????

 

No Whaley was absolutely not at fault.

 

The his WR coach in Eastern Carolina Phil McGeoghan recommended him and they actually hired the coach as well to work with him dumping a good WR coach already on staff.  He was not able to raise Jones' game and that is not surprising considering his NFL resume.  The coach was allowed to look for a new job before being fired.

 

Wikipedia on coach - only reason why Jones gets a mulligan. 

As coach:
Maine (2007) Wide receivers coach & tight ends coach Navy Prep (2008) Offensive coordinator South Florida (2009–2011) Wide receivers coach Miami Dolphins (2012–2014) Assistant wide receivers coach Miami Dolphins (2015) Wide receivers coach East Carolina (2016) Wide receivers coach Buffalo Bills (2017) Wide receivers coach Los Angeles Chargers (2018-present) Wide receivers coach

[BillsPride12]

I feel like we are right back to the Rex Ryan days...Only past Week 1 and I feel like we are watching a friggin soap opera again.  I can tolerate a losing season because I understand the nature of a rebuild but I can't take another laughing stock of the NFL season yet again 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, DJB said:

Zay parents and his entire family seem totally nuts lol

 

fixed it

[Gugny]

6 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

I feel like we are right back to the Rex Ryan days...Only past Week 1 and I feel like we are watching a friggin soap opera again.  I can tolerate a losing season because I understand the nature of a rebuild but I can't take another laughing stock of the NFL season yet again 

 

I don't think anything will ever be as bad as the Rex years.  But I do think McDermott is having difficulty.  He is only in his second year and he's not been given much talent to work with.  I'm not holding anything against Zay Jones for the week 1 game.  However, KB most certainly did not play hard.  The QB situation has been horribly mishandled for the second season in a row.  But his career is still young and I am still hoping for the best.

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, teef said:

Back in my day, sending pictures of your junk was shocking enough. No more...

I'm sending you a pm with my number, you know exactly what to do...

[BillsPride12]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I don't think anything will ever be as bad as the Rex years.  But I do think McDermott is having difficulty.  He is only in his second year and he's not been given much talent to work with.  I'm not holding anything against Zay Jones for the week 1 game.  However, KB most certainly did not play hard.  The QB situation has been horribly mishandled for the second season in a row.  But his career is still young and I am still hoping for the best.

I was exaggerating a bit for the sake of trying to be somewhat sarcastic because I think McDermott is much more business than Rex ever was.  But i think to a degree his inexperience might be catching up to him because of the way some things have been mishandled.  And don't think for a minute just because nobody has come out and said anything that the Veterans in the locker room  aren't extremely frustrated right now.  McBeane continued to preach winning now and winning later when in reality it's clear they are going for a full tear-down rebuild and that's the kind of stuff that make players lose trust in a coach.  I'm just nervous about how everything is going to play out this season. I can already sense alot of frustration from players, McDermott himself, and certainly from the fans point of view.

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said:

I was exaggerating a bit for the sake of trying to be somewhat sarcastic because I think McDermott is much more business than Rex ever was.  But i think to a degree his inexperience might be catching up to him because of the way some things have been mishandled.  And don't think for a minute just because nobody has come out and said anything that the Veterans in the locker room  aren't extremely frustrated right now.  McBeane continued to preach winning now and winning later when in reality it's clear they are going for a full tear-down rebuild and that's the kind of stuff that make players lose trust in a coach.  I'm just nervous about how everything is going to play out this season. I can already sense alot of frustration from players, McDermott himself, and certainly from the fans point of view.

 

I anticipate two things this season/postseason.  A lot of losses followed by a lot of turnover.  And the players who are frustrated will likely be the ones leaving.  As long as Allen gets his experience and stays healthy, it's forward progress, in my book.  Bills will get younger and better in 2019.

[aceman_16]

1 hour ago, teef said:

Back in my day, sending pictures of your junk was shocking enough. No more...

Upstate New York.  Cold weather. Bad angle.  Faux skin tag.

[C.Biscuit97]

I love that the players and the players’ families are in the wrong instead of the dorks who just spend their time criticizing a 22 year old.  I wanted JuJu and think Zay has been bad.  But honestly, what does Jerry Sullivan know about football?  That nerd has never played a sport in his life.  He is just a miserable hater who just runs his mouth and hides behind a microphone.  He is a complete coward.  

 

Sports “Journalism “ is such a weird profession.  Guys who were mostly likely dorks who get paid to criticize people who made the top 5% of their profession.  

[Royale with Cheese]

Next draft, we need to interview the players and their parents.

[C.Biscuit97]

13 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I don't think anything will ever be as bad as the Rex years.  But I do think McDermott is having difficulty.  He is only in his second year and he's not been given much talent to work with.  I'm not holding anything against Zay Jones for the week 1 game.  However, KB most certainly did not play hard.  The QB situation has been horribly mishandled for the second season in a row.  But his career is still young and I am still hoping for the best.

We basically have the same record as we did with Rex and both sides of the ball has regressed.  Rex was a clown who had a much better roster but McDermott deserves a lot of blame for how talentless this team is.

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

Next draft, we need to interview the players and their parents.

They do.  They interview everyone they can associated with the player.  And I would love for my family to defend me against a dork like Sullivan.

[JaCrispy]

1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:

It's an entire family of head cases and weirdos. Zay doesn't have a prayer of working out here. Horrible draft pick by McDermott.

Sad part is that Zay probably thinks it’s all completely normal.

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Next draft, we need to interview the players and their parents.

 

When you say, "we," do you mean you and @teef?

[BillsVet]

The last thing for people to criticize or highlight is the mental health of a 22-23 year old man.  His parents may be aggressively protective but I cannot stand seeing people throw around terms like "crazy" and "nut."  Mental health is not a joking matter.

 

 

[Captain Murica]

I would rather have the St. Brown family drama at this point. At least their whackyness is mainly due to the father only marrying his mother based on selective breeding purposes, and not Twitter wars with fans, and the media. 

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

10 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

The last thing for people to criticize or highlight is the mental health of a 22-23 year old man.  His parents may be aggressively protective but I cannot stand seeing people throw around terms like "crazy" and "nut."  Mental health is not a joking matter.

 

 

Good post.  Also, a general rule I have is never been on Jerry Sulkivan’s Side for anything.  Miserable Milhouse.

4 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:

I would rather have the St. Brown family drama at this point. At least their whackyness is mainly due to the father only marrying his mother based on selective breeding purposes, and not Twitter wars with fans, and the media. 

 

 

That would have been a great receiver for Allen to grow with.  Of course, we only like slow wrs.

[The Bills Blog]

Why am I seeing so many people put an R in Sal Capaccio's name?

[Mr. WEO]

can it really be an "epic" war when none of the people the OP mentions seem to be responding to any of this father's tweets?

3 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said:

Why am I seeing so many people put an R in Sal Capaccio's name?

 

Mmmmmmmm

[KD in CA]

2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

Our society is on a downward spiral when we become interested in what the father of a player said to a media member who tweeted a casual observation after the mother of a player posted a comment about another player who didn’t know where to line up...allegedly. 

 

Society's downward spiral turned even more sharply downward the day twitter was invented.  Worst invention ever.

[Nelius]

I feel like this weirdness is ultimately just another strike against a player who's on the total bust fence as it is. Zay is obviously weirdly close with his family and the whole "my son can't do no wrong" entitled mentality is just not good for a kid who fizzled out in his rookie year and may have mental/emotional problems...

 

Hell, on the other hand, imagine if he actually becomes good and what contract negotiations will be like with this support circle?  Nonsense like this is just horribly unprofessional to the point of being toxic in my opinion.

Edited September 13, 2018 by Nelius

[Ol Dirty B]

2 hours ago, the skycap said:

All of y'all criticizing Zay Jones need to stop. And stop comparing him with Ju Ju! Ju Ju has a future HOF QB throwing him the pigskin. Zay has/had a 5th and 6rder trying to play the QB position. Put Zay with Rivers, Rodgers, Brady then evaluate him. Woods, Goodwin, Hogan should be evidence enough to show that a WR is only as good as the QB throwing to him!!

 

Your post sucks. Zay was absolutely awful last year. His drops, catch rate. He was horrible. I'll say they did him no favors this year, but the kid looks like a bum, he tried to jump out a !@#$ing skyscraper and now his dad is going at guys who criticize.

 

Cut him and get over it. He's bad, and he'll never be good with this lack of accountability. It's never been Zays fault and the Bills have played into that.

18 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Society's downward spiral turned even more sharply downward the day twitter was invented.  Worst invention ever.

 

This has nothing to do with society. We're talking about a dumb football team. If I'm paying attention to the football team, then yea what Zays dad is doing is stupid.

 

It has nothing to do with society. We're on a message board about the Bills and that idiot is going to try to dismiss those comments with how sensitive society is. The only people that care are the !@#$ing 10 of us in this thread.

 

Get a grip on the society bull ****. I'm not a fan of Twitter, don't have one, but that was an awful take.

[Nelius]

4 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Your post sucks. Zay was absolutely awful last year. His drops, catch rate. He was horrible. I'll say they did him no favors this year, but the kid looks like a bum, he tried to jump out a !@#$ing skyscraper and now his dad is going at guys who criticize.

 

Cut him and get over it. He's bad, and he'll never be good with this lack of accountability. It's never been Zays fault and the Bills have played into that.

 

Much more succinct than I put it. "It's never been Zay's fault" is what I'm picking up from his parents, and what may end up being the fundamental issue here.

[Ol Dirty B]

Just now, Nelius said:

 

Much more succinct than I put it. "It's never been Zay's fault" is what I'm picking up from his parents, and what may end up being the fundamental issue here.

 

That's exactly what I see here. His dad doing this is just absolutely stupid. Luckily for Zay, he isn't big enough of a name to draw attention outside of us on here. And the Bills look so dysfunctional, this is so far down on the list of concerns.

[Jaywrizzo]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Whats the JuJu connection to Zay?

They took Zay and JuJu was still on the board....another bad decision by this organization!

[MAJBobby]

There is that DNA McD loves 

[Jauronimo]

Zay is doing the lord's work.  Someone needs to defend him against known apostates like Jerry 'Sunshine' Sullivan,  John 'Rockin' the Suburbs' "Warrow", and #RoadSodas.  May as well be the Father or the holy goats.

[IDBillzFan]

3 hours ago, Commonsense said:

Sometimes I romanticize about the days before twitter and social media. 

 

I commented to someone earlier today: I miss the days when the primary source of news I got in LA about the Bills came from my monthly "Shout" publication.  Now I get to see nuts like Sullivan beg for clicks by trying to have a twitter conversation with the father of a player.

 

They're less NFL and more TMZ.

 

3 hours ago, COTC said:

Like Father, Like Son. 

 

Cant wait to see Zay lose it out on the field, that will be special. 

 

Why the hell would anyone cheer for something like that?

 

Some of you have lost your freaking minds. 

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Good post.  Also, a general rule I have is never been on Jerry Sulkivan’s Side for anything.  Miserable Milhouse.

That would have been a great receiver for Allen to grow with.  Of course, we only like slow wrs.

The only thing st Brown has is Being 6’5 and fast

 

he has average to below average hands. They aren’t strong so he drops a lot of contested balls. And he plays way smaller than his size

 

and I’m a ND homer

[Foxx]

10 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

Buffalo Rush brings all the hot tabloid news ??‍♂️??‍♂️

fixed it for you.

9 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

When you say, "we," do you mean you and @teef?

@Applebees during happy hour.

[Royale with Cheese]

9 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

When you say, "we," do you mean you and @teef?

 

Why yes of course.

[wppete]

10 hours ago, COTC said:

This Family needs its own reality show!!

 

The Drama, behind close doors, must be thick!!

 

This is becoming a distraction. 

 

I was thinking the same. Give them a reality show. 

[StrikeParry]

Whatever yo reporters shouldn’t be arguing with someone’s dad. Makes them look worse than him. 

[Tenhigh]

8 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

Why am I seeing so many people put an R in Sal Capaccio's name?

For raw beef deliciousness.

[Bob in STL]

I'm predicting Zay Jones will not be any teams NFL roster come next season.

 

 

[smuvtalker]

7 hours ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

Twitter is like a corn-laden turd on top of a pile in a porta-potty. It’s uber-****ty and like it or not, it is a blight on civil society and discussion .

That my friend is one of the most graphic, descriptive, and funny analogies I have ever read.  I'm still repeatedly swallowing to keep the coffee and bagel down in my stomach!!  

Edited September 13, 2018 by smuvtalker

[Thunderstruck]

11 hours ago, teef said:

I even had the lighting down. 

and the "Favre trick"?