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[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Sal C believes the Chargers have the best top to bottom roster in the AFC.  Do you agree with that?

 

Ive always considered rivers to be part of the problem. 

[wppete]

[row_33]

Charges are getting a lot of preseason pub

 

[MILFHUNTER#518]

3 minutes ago, JoeF said:

Kiko!!!!!

I was at that game, they had just came off a Super Bowl win and E.J. lit them up.

[corta765]

Eh fans being fans. Over the years I have realized that Ravens fans in general are spoiled to a near Patriots level expectation wise. Even though the Bills and Ravens have both been .500 teams since 2014 their fans think wayyyy higher of themselves then us.

 

Most of that is national media coverage. Baltimore did at some nice WR's and looked decent preseason. The Bills...well even though Peterman actually played excellent all preseason and seemed to grow while the team didnt play their top RB or a lot of their d-line starters are dominated solely by the narrative of Petermans 5 INTs last season and O-line issues. Not saying the Bills won't have issues on O line or that Peterman can't struggle, but its an easy narrative to run with nationally.

 

This is the exact type of sleeper game people overlook where Buffalo is farrr closer then everyone nationally expects. Also Buffalo only got trounced twice last season (NOLA/LAC), the rest of the year they were highly competitive every game and I wouldn't expect much else.

[YoloinOhio]

9 minutes ago, row_33 said:

Charges are getting a lot of preseason pub

 

Rivers has become West Coast Fitzy. You could get 4+ TDs or 4+ picks, it’s Russian roulette. He has to put his entire body into any throw over 20 yards. Their kicker situation will do them in again. It was so bad they almost went with Roberto Aguayo. They also gave the most sleep inducing, predictable play calling in the league. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 hours ago, CountDorkula said:

I 10000% agree with it too.

 

Wouldnt you be. Allen will get killed behind this O-line.

 

Well any QB will get killed. 

It had little to do with the Bills O Line but their past history against rookie QB's.  No wins by one in a long time.  thought they did mention Trubisky walked away with a win.

[CommonCents]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Rivers has become West Coast Fitzy. You could get 4+ TDs or 4+ picks, it’s Russian roulette. He has to put his entire body into any throw over 20 yards. Their kicker situation will do them in again. It was so bad they almost went with Roberto Aguayo. They also gave the most sleep inducing, predictable play calling in the league. 

I have Denver winning the division. Improved running game, steady hand at QB, surrounded by capable pass catching options. Chubb/Miller, case closed.

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

I have Denver winning the division. Improved running game, steady hand at QB, surrounded by capable pass catching options. Chubb/Miller, case closed.

Chargers are going to be incredibly amped for their game vs KC who they haven’t beaten in awhile (chiefs have won 8 straight!), they always had problems with Alex Smith. He’s gone now and KC defense is trash. I expect them to win that game easily and come into Buffalo very overconfident for a # of reasons. should be interesting.

Edited September 5, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[BillsFan130]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Lol was that Kiko with the INT?

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Sal C believes the Chargers have the best top to bottom roster in the AFC.  Do you agree with that?

Most balanced but not best team because Brady and BB are significantly better than Rivers and Lynn

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Lol was that Kiko with the INT?

“Kiko,what did you see on the game saving interception?”

kiko: [blank stare] “The ball”

[zow2]

Can't say i disagree with Ravens fans.  They look better than last season and the Bills look to be over-matched in this one unless the D shows up in a huge way.  I like Peterman, I'm not a hater... I'm really hoping the guy can keep the chains moving and use some ball control offense to limit the Ravens chances.

[Dave Allen]

Between the offensive line turnover, the new quarterback and lack of WR depth, it's easy to look in from the outside and not see anything. Hell, nobody really knows what to expect yet on that side of the ball. But I'm still trying to figure out why so many people think the defense is a sieve.

 

"Buffalo sucks" has just become the nation's default mode. No thought or insight necessary. Just got to go out and prove them wrong.   

 

 

 

 

[Happy]

6 minutes ago, Dave Allen said:

Between the offensive line turnover, the new quarterback and lack of WR depth, it's easy to look in from the outside and not see anything. Hell, nobody really knows what to expect yet on that side of the ball. But I'm still trying to figure out why so many people think the defense is a sieve.

 

"Buffalo sucks" has just become the nation's default mode. No thought or insight necessary. Just got to go out and prove them wrong.   

 

 

 

 

 

Good post.  I agree.

 

I don't recall McDermott expressing concern about the Oline in preseason.  It didn't look good to us fans, but we may not have seen then what we'll see in the regular season; I really hope I'm right about that.  McD's concern was the penalties, from what I saw.

[mannc]

3 hours ago, joesixpack said:

 

I wouldn't overlook upsetting LAC they're notoriously slow-starting and traveling west to east.

 

Phil Rivers shouldn’t scare anyone at this point, either.

[Cotton Fitzsimmons]

3 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I continue to think that we will be pleasantly surprised by Peterman. Okay, based on what he did last year the bar is pretty low. But even if just 80% of the Peterman we saw in the pre-season shows up he will play fairly well. And love the fact that a lot of their fans are thinking shut out as predictions like that in the NFL often turn the other way.

 

Rib, my good friend, you are spot on per usual! YE OLE believes what we will see in Peterman is a guy who will run hot and cold at times. He definitely has the ability to be accurate and throw guys open even in perfect coverage. He also has significant limitations. All of this to say there will be games in Nate’s career not unlike the Chargers game, but also games where he will disect the secondary and neutralize the pass rush because the ball is out so quickly. 

 

No idea what we’ll see Sunday, but YE OLE bets it will be spectacular in one fashion or another.

Edited September 5, 2018 by Cotton Fitzsimmons

[Scott7975]

3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

On their app the other day I read 

 

The Bills are afraid to start Josh Allen in Baltimore 

 

There was stats to go along with that. I don’t have the app but I read an article. Ravens are 14-2 against a rookie qb. And their numbers aren’t pretty. 

[SouthNYfan]

24 minutes ago, mannc said:

Phil Rivers shouldn’t scare anyone at this point, either.

 

He has almost 9k yards and 61 tds over the last two seasons

Last year he posted 4500 with 21 td 10 int

 

 

[Yeezus]

4 hours ago, JinxedBill1 said:

Ravens predicting shut outs and blow outs across the board.

 

https://forum.russellstreetreport.com/showthread.php?166101-The-OFFICIAL-Ravens-v-Bills-Opening-Day-Prediction-Thread/page2

 

While I admit I'm not sure what we will look like, these fans are extremely drinking the coolaid for the first game.  Got to love it.

 

how are they wrong?

 

we have one of the worst rosters in the NFL, maybe bottom 3 across the board.

[SouthNYfan]

We have delusional fans on this board who think we are going to win 12+ games.

Why does this surprise you that a team's forum is filled with homers?

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

On their app the other day I read 

 

The Bills are afraid to start Josh Allen in Baltimore 

I believe that.  

[Fadingpain]

The Ravens seem very underwhelming to me as a team for this year, and that's with me not really giving a rat's ass one way or the other about them.  

 

Not sure why their fans would be excited.

 

 

[mannc]

7 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

He has almost 9k yards and 61 tds over the last two seasons

Last year he posted 4500 with 21 td 10 int

 

 

And they missed the playoffs again, despite having a tremendous defense.

[SouthNYfan]

Just now, mannc said:

And they missed the playoffs again, despite having a tremendous defense.

 

Okay?

We made the playoffs last year with Tyrod.

Every GM in history would take Rivers over Tyrod.

What's your point?

 

[stuvian]

the Ravens have nothing to be cocky about. They are on the decline

[Art in PNS]

Some teams definitely have more skilled players at certain positions , but there are no teams with 32 probowlers on their roster. To make it to the NFL you must have talent. If the coaches can get the TEAM ready, and if the players get themselves ready to battle , then it will be a game. Hopefully Daboll trully will work on match ups instead of the old First down Shady up the middle, second down Shady wide to the left, Third down 1 yard pass to the wide receiver in the flats , 4th down Punt bills offense from last year. Hopefully the defensive line will plug running lanes rather than play bullfighter .

 

GO BILLS start off ready to play not waiting for the second half !!!

[mannc]

14 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Okay?

We made the playoffs last year with Tyrod.

Every GM in history would take Rivers over Tyrod.

What's your point?

 

That Rivers is not thst good and he hasn’t won squat in over a decade

[SoTier]

17 minutes ago, Art in RTP said:

Some teams definitely have more skilled players at certain positions , but there are no teams with 32 probowlers on their roster. To make it to the NFL you must have talent. If the coaches can get the TEAM ready, and if the players get themselves ready to battle , then it will be a game. Hopefully Daboll trully will work on match ups instead of the old First down Shady up the middle, second down Shady wide to the left, Third down 1 yard pass to the wide receiver in the flats , 4th down Punt bills offense from last year. Hopefully the defensive line will plug running lanes rather than play bullfighter .

 

GO BILLS start off ready to play not waiting for the second half !!!

 

The Bills have very little proven talent on their roster, which is why Ravens fans and the national media don't think much of them.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

There was stats to go along with that. I don’t have the app but I read an article. Ravens are 14-2 against a rookie qb. And their numbers aren’t pretty. 

I only have the app because that's how you view your tickets now.  

[TigerJ]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

You know your offensive line is struggling when your offensive tackles are getting pushed back into the QB before the snap, and the defensive end hasn't moved.

[Alphadawg7]

5 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I continue to think that we will be pleasantly surprised by Peterman. Okay, based on what he did last year the bar is pretty low. But even if just 80% of the Peterman we saw in the pre-season shows up he will play fairly well. And love the fact that a lot of their fans are thinking shut out as predictions like that in the NFL often turn the other way.

 

Huh?  80% of the only QB to turn the ball over?  80% of the guy whose first pass against Cleveland scrubs now working at Jiffy Lube was a dropped pick 6?  80% of Peterman and we are gonna get destroyed.  The ONLY way we can win this game is if Peterman plays better than he did in the preseason.  You guys forget, Peterman MOSTLY played against scrubs...and guess what, all 3 QB's had good moments against scrubs, but the only 2 QB's to face a legit first string offense got destroyed behind this line (AJM and Allen in weeks 2 and 3).  NP didn't face a real first team, it was the first game of the preseason against partial starters and a vanilla D he will never actually face in a real game.  And yet he still threw an INT.  

 

Sorry, but some of you are still way over exaggerating preseason...NP needs to bring his best or we are getting destroyed.  And we still don't even know if his best is good enough to win in the NFL.  I will be rooting for him, would be awesome to see him go in there and upset the Ravens.  But man people are obsessed with over exaggerating preseason, especially if not considering the context of the performance either.  NP has a LOT to prove this Sunday, and it won't be easy.  And if he does, he will start to earn the right for more optimism.  I like the kid, so would be great to see him do well...I am just cautiously reserved at this point and not buying into the fools gold of preseason that gets people over hyped every year on players.

[HansLanda]

1 hour ago, stuvian said:

the Ravens have nothing to be cocky about. They are on the decline

 

Maybe, but they are 7.5 point home favorites. If there is a week to be cocky, it's this one. 

[GreggTX]

We are 31st in the current power rankings. Only the talentless Colts (other than Luck) are ranked lower. I see no reason why this should surprise anyone. That said, I think Petermann is better than most everyone assumes, but he's going to be running for his life and have few open receivers to throw to in order to get the ball out quickly. Yes, he is better than they think, but I doubt he'll have a chance to show it. This OL struggled last year and at times were completely overmatched. Now they are even worse. I hope Petermann survives.

[NewEraBills]

5 hours ago, JinxedBill1 said:

Ravens predicting shut outs and blow outs across the board.

 

https://forum.russellstreetreport.com/showthread.php?166101-The-OFFICIAL-Ravens-v-Bills-Opening-Day-Prediction-Thread/page2

 

While I admit I'm not sure what we will look like, these fans are extremely drinking the coolaid for the first game.  Got to love it.

 

One could say the same thing here too.  Given our OL, OL coach, no breakaway speed on offense it's easy to see why a fan of an opposing team would think this.  Plus it's at their house where they tend to do well in opening games.  At the end of the day, yes the games are played on the field and anything can happen, but if we are talking about the way people think and why they think what the think, if I was a big Ravens fan and looking at all the information on the Bills, I'd think the same thing.  Talent and experience wise it's not even close.  What happens on Sunday may not say that, but if I'm a fan of the team with the superior talent I'd easily say we should run these guys off the field quickly.

[row_33]

3 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Good post.  I agree.

 

I don't recall McDermott expressing concern about the Oline in preseason.  It didn't look good to us fans, but we may not have seen then what we'll see in the regular season; I really hope I'm right about that.  McD's concern was the penalties, from what I saw.

 

it wasn't open mic at Tee Hee's, so he and everyone else avoiding talking about the O-line

 

 

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

And they missed the playoffs again, despite having a tremendous defense.

If they had a kicker last year we are still talking about the drought

 

I also don't see how people can rank the Bills so low. They had the 31st ranked passing offense for three years and decided to change that. The o line is a question but the defense should be solid.

 

I dont think this is a playoff team, but I think the overall talent on this roster is good enough to win 5-8 games if the ball bounces the right way

Edited September 5, 2018 by Captain Hindsight

[HamSandwhich]

5 hours ago, AllenWillBust said:

 

Each Bills fan just has to look at how much they themselves know about other teams around the league before they B word about Ravens fans.  Most of us only know what the national media tell us. The national media is telling all NFL fans that the Bills will suck hard, so I can't blame any NFL fan for thinking their team will have a bye week against the Bills. 

 

And yeah, having Peterman as the face of your franchise is not the greatest thing right now...

Are you a Bills fan?  Seriously?  Your avatar is Allen holding a Jersey saying "bust"?  wow.  Go root for the Pats. 

[FLFan]

44 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Huh?  80% of the only QB to turn the ball over?  80% of the guy whose first pass against Cleveland scrubs now working at Jiffy Lube was a dropped pick 6?  80% of Peterman and we are gonna get destroyed.  The ONLY way we can win this game is if Peterman plays better than he did in the preseason.  You guys forget, Peterman MOSTLY played against scrubs...and guess what, all 3 QB's had good moments against scrubs, but the only 2 QB's to face a legit first string offense got destroyed behind this line (AJM and Allen in weeks 2 and 3).  NP didn't face a real first team, it was the first game of the preseason against partial starters and a vanilla D he will never actually face in a real game.  And yet he still threw an INT.  

 

Sorry, but some of you are still way over exaggerating preseason...NP needs to bring his best or we are getting destroyed.  And we still don't even know if his best is good enough to win in the NFL.  I will be rooting for him, would be awesome to see him go in there and upset the Ravens.  But man people are obsessed with over exaggerating preseason, especially if not considering the context of the performance either.  NP has a LOT to prove this Sunday, and it won't be easy.  And if he does, he will start to earn the right for more optimism.  I like the kid, so would be great to see him do well...I am just cautiously reserved at this point and not buying into the fools gold of preseason that gets people over hyped every year on players.

Certainly agree with the bolded in general, and that Peterman will need to perform to the best of his abilities for the Bills to compete.  People in general, even though they would swear they are not, place way to much faith in what they see in meaningless pre-season games.  This includes performance of the OL, of the defense, and the QBs, etc.  I think we are virtually all guilty of this to some degree. We will begin to see what we really have this Sunday and in the weeks to come.  I believe this will be something of a work in progress, but we will see what game planning, specific preparation for a team and individual opponents, and real live bullets looks like with this team for the first time.  

[row_33]

9 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Certainly agree with the bolded in general, and that Peterman will need to perform to the best of his abilities for the Bills to compete.  People in general, even though they would swear they are not, place way to much faith in what they see in meaningless pre-season games.  This includes performance of the OL, of the defense, and the QBs, etc.  I think we are virtually all guilty of this to some degree. We will begin to see what we really have this Sunday and in the weeks to come.  I believe this will be something of a work in progress, but we will see what game planning, specific preparation for a team and individual opponents, and real live bullets looks like with this team for the first time.  

 

Tom Brady has nothing to prove in preseason.

 

That doesn't apply to unproven NFL QBs for preseason

 

Horrible NFL game, ran for his life in preseason does not mean Peterman is ready to dominate

 

 

[ColoradoBills]